Steroids=NO SEX

[dieselrhodes]

Okay, now I get it. Basically, if you take just about any steroid, when you come off, you are going to have difficulty banging.
For those of you who are single and lonely, no big deal. But for those of us who have girlfriends and wives that expect us to perform, it's a major deal. The point is, I'm looking for a roid that will not affect my sex life at all and also not affect my hair line at all as I also like hair, hair and sex. Any recommendations. My guess is that only GH by itself would satisfy these requirements. How bad would Anavar and GH screw up the old sex drive? By the way, I'm 37 and when you get that old you don't want to mess around downstairs, even the stress of anticipating a post recovery crash would be enough to cause problems. Comments anyone?

 

[flex123]

I've been off for over 2 years, I bang fine my friend. I assume you're talking directly after "coming off"? I might have had a lower sex drive than when I was on, but the drive was still there.

No Problems with my sex drive....Only probs I've ever had with sex was taking certain recreational drugs and not being able to "perform"

 

[Goldprospector]

I don't know where you get you information but it seems a little fucked up. Some people have libido problems because of lack of knowledge and prepartion....a small % will have it no matter how they prepare. But no one can tell you what will work for you...Do some research on AAS profile and decide which will be right for you...then follow up with a good PCT and there should be no problems.

 

[Juice Authority]

I would say that any non-aromatizing AAS like Primo, Winstrol, Anavar shouldn't effect your sex drive too much post cycle.

Test, Deca, Fina, Anadrol, etc would be examples of Androgenic AAS that will effect the libido post-cycle.

 

[dieselrhodes]

thanks Juice

A good answer to my question. Does Anavar have any hair thinning atributes? What about a GH and Anavar cycle, ever done that? Would you still do PCT with Anavar and GH cycle?

 

[Juice Authority]

Re: thanks Juice

A good answer to my question. Does Anavar have any hair thinning atributes? What about a GH and Anavar cycle, ever done that? Would you still do PCT with Anavar and GH cycle?

Well, Anavar is mildly suppresive to the hpta and it doesn't amoratize so post cycle ancilaries are not needed for Anavar only cycles. It would be pointless. Anavar is not a DHT so I don't see why it would effect your hairline.

 

[dieselrhodes]

thanks again Juice

One more question. How much anavar 25mg per day, 30mg per day for the first cycle would be recommended, also, would you combine that with GH, 2-4 iu per day??

 

[Juice Authority]

Re: thanks again Juice

One more question. How much anavar 25mg per day, 30mg per day for the first cycle would be recommended, also, would you combine that with GH, 2-4 iu per day??

imo, Anavar and Test or Anavar and Winstrol would be a good stack for a first cycle. If you have the money to blow on GH, go for it. Just plan to stay on it for a while. 2 kits will do nothing other than suppress your natural IFG-1 levels.

 

[dieselrhodes]

Juice

The only problem with Test and Winstrol is that they cause hair loss and I'm not willing to roll the dice, that's why considering GH and Anavar. Anybody else had good results with these two.

 

[Laser0001]

What does your hairline look like now, your 37 years old and if male pattern baldness is in your cards I think it would have given you some indication by now.

 

[dieselrhodes]

Holding in there, on Propecia and Minoxidil. Seen some guys at the gym in their 30's lose a ton of hair on cycles and not willing to take the chance, wanna keep the majority of what I have. Too bad though, I'd love to hit a nice cycle. Been working out naturally for 10 years and never juiced, good strength, pretty big for natural, but it ain't the same.

 

[TheRide]

I would say that any non-aromatizing AAS like Primo, Winstrol, Anavar shouldn't effect your sex drive too much post cycle.

Test, Deca, Fina, Anadrol, etc would be examples of Androgenic AAS that will effect the libido post-cycle.

Ditto, Juice is right on with that advice...

 

[twistedneck]

Juice Authority

2 kits will do nothing other than suppress your natural IFG-1 levels.

A good friend of mine is running igf1 alone right now. He's going to run HGH when the IGF1 is gone. Is this counter productive to endogeneous igf1 drops? help.

 

[Generic MALE]

Studies have shown winstrol kills libido and aggression.

I did an anavar bridge after a cycle and it killed my libido. It was not an anavar only cycle though. It was real (oxandrin) prescribed by an MD.

I hate winstrol.

I have a friend, he is big (6 foot ~300 LBS) and won a state title a few years back. He recently got a scrip for testo and winstrol. Within weeks he had to take time off for sore joints. He was lifting real heavy, but winstrol is hard on the joints - especially if you are doing something as explosive and ballistic as sprinting. I am expecting to hear his libido and hair are going to heck soon as well...hahahahaha

I don't think all sports need AS- running is one of them - but I guess I would say oxandrin and a light dose of testo.

All AS (except morning Dbol) supress endogenous testo production - although therapuetic levels orf oxandrin are only mildly supressive. Again that is therapuetic doses as nobody has really done bodybuilding dose levels of anavar in studies that I know of. Testo is vital to libido - and all AS by an large supress it to various degrees, and so all will cause libido to shut down.

I have done follow up blood tests after a few cycles. I tend to recover in 6-10 weeks -both in blood tests and how I feel. I have tried clomid (I get visual changes but that dissappears upon cessation), HCG, calcium D glucurate, vitex (Chasteberry). I get the best results from Vitex.

This last cycle I did not do vitex because of what Nelson wrote. I also tried his stuff from Protein factory. Personally it was one of the slowest recoveries I have ever had - although I did not do blood tests this time. I usually test my testo and LH after a cycle and find its back in 6 weeks more or less.

I always lose some hair with a cycle and it always comes back - and I am always afraid it won't. I have a few sentinal hairs - hairs that mark my hair boundaries. One is just in front of a scar on my forehead.It disappears during a cycle and about 2 months later it is back. I have done some fairly large cycles - mind you I have not done any Flex Wheeler kidney destroying cycles. I started off with a mild pharmacy compounded testo cream (200 mg /ml @ 2 ml per day) with HGH prescribed by a medical doctor and then went up from there.

 

[Dr. M]

The point is, I'm looking for a roid that will not affect my sex life at all and also not affect my hair line at all as I also like hair, hair and sex. Any recommendations. My guess is that only GH by itself would satisfy these requirements.

As a very small matter of classification, GH is not actually a steroid but rather a polypeptide hormone.

I'd suggest that if you're worried about lack of sex drive after your cycle, work on better PCT rather than finding a miracle drug. You also may want to weight your goals (size, sculpting, etc.) versus your willingness to accept the sides. This isn't a flame, just an honest assessment.

If your goals include size, then you'll need test in there somewhere. My recommendation (hasn't let myself or the bros down thus far!) is to run a long-ester cycle for the larger portion, but run short/no esters (e.g. test prop or suspension) for the last 2-3 weeks. This will allow your long-ester test to be eliminated while still reaping the benefits of test in short-ester form. Coming off of short esters for 3 weeks, you can begin your PCT as little as 48h after your last shot; if you're using suspension, you can start the day after if you really want to.

Using this sort of strategy, I've had maybe one or two days post-cycle where my libido has been a little sub-par. After that, I was golden.

-M

 

[dieselrhodes]

Thanks Dr. M and Genericmale

Lots to think about. I suppose the only non risky move would be GH, both in terms of hairloss and sexual malfunction. I'm not sure I'm ready to go though all the tests and trials, i.e. bloodwork, experimenting with different PCT, even though the end result would sure be nice. I've worked so hard naturally for so many years, great diet, good training discipline etc. I just can't pull the trigger. Maybe sometime before I'm an old geezer they'll come out with some superdrug that won't have the limitations of our current crop of roids.

 

[rnch]

being "on" rules!!

i ws in a good mood all the time, smiling, happy and terminally horny. swearin' to god, even martha foiking stewart looked good to me!

 

[Dr. M]

[Bi ws in a good mood all the time, smiling, happy and terminally horny.[/B]

I'm the same way... 'cept for the Martha Stewart thing.

-M

 

[DaddyX]

never had any problems at all off or on

 

[satchboogie]

The point is, I'm looking for a roid that will not affect my sex life at all and also not affect my hair line at all as I also like hair, hair and sex.

you forgot to mention a roid thats free and is stocked by your next door neighbor..

get real bro!
steroids have sides and you have to live with them or not juice.

 

[Juice Authority]

Re: Re: Steroids=NO SEX

you forgot to mention a roid thats free and is stocked by your next door neighbor..

get real bro!
steroids have sides and you have to live with them or not juice.

You mean you can't have your cake and eat it too?

 

[satchboogie]

Re: Re: Re: Steroids=NO SEX

You mean you can't have your cake and eat it too?

 

[majutsu]

Hey, can I get that miracle drug with a blow-job? Oh --- and make it legal too. Our friend seems to have some interesting ideas about anabolics and sides. While some guys on this board suggest that they did one shot and lost all their hair and desire for women, I suspect that they were pretty fucked up individuals to start with . . . Few people have problems with a simple newbie cycle like 500/wk sustanon, with proper post cycle therapy. You will learn how to work out while "on", how to recover, how to modulate sides for you, how to eat, and likely emerge bigger, wiser, and no worse for the wear. My 2c.

 

[Dr. M]

Agreed, maj.

I can see some sort of problem arising if you're shooting deca at high levels (>800mg/wk) and stacking it with grams upon grams of test... and even then, only if you fuck up your PCT.

Spend time learning how to put together a proper cycle, and you'll have no worries.

-M

 

[Dantes]

I guess I have been very lucky. I have never really noticed much a libido change.

3 cycles:
#1: 10 amps of Sust
#2: 20 amps Sust / Some Fina at the end
#3: Ethanate + EQ

I have had no problems getting it up. Although Ephedrine (the ultimate dick killer!) has given me major probs, as well as booze if I over do it.