steroids lower the immune system?

[thegoodfoods]

i've read that Testosterone increases the body's immune system. but when using steroids your body loses some of its ability to fight off viruses and bacteria. is this true? and if it is true, and you do get a cold, will the cold go away on its own or should you stop using asap?

 

[omega529]

i here some people get test colds.....but i never did

 

[TRAINHD]

I know that Doctors perscribe GEAR to HIV patients to boost their immune system.
I would like to see a study saying that GEAR makes you lose your ability to fight off viruses and bacteria.

 

[omega529]

I know that Doctors perscribe GEAR to HIV patients to boost their immune system.
I would like to see a study saying that GEAR makes you lose your ability to fight off viruses and bacteria.

I believe the studys were done with compounds like Decca durabolin and oxadrolone, that proved to be usefule for patients with HIV....but their has been speculation on the rebound activity/production of cortisol, witch is a catabolic hormone witch may supress immune system functioning......During the period of imbalance, cortisol will strip the body of muscle mass, but may also cause somone to be more susceptible to colds and the flu.

 

[jagerbombme]

well, when im on test, i don't get sick. everyone around me can be sick but not me. been off for a month now and sick as fuck for the past fucking week. FUCK THIS

 

[Mrpumped]

well, when im on test, i don't get sick. everyone around me can be sick but not me. been off for a month now and sick as fuck for the past fucking week. FUCK THIS

Take a few days to rest bro and up your vitamin c.

 

[mikefear]

I used to get sick all the time, started HRT and I've had maybe one cold.

 

[TRAINHD]

I've been HRT for a little over a year now and I have'nt been sick since.
But I do have to say that before I started HRT I would get sick on average 3-5 times a year.( And yes I took alot of vitamin's )

 

[TRAINHD]

I believe the studys were done with compounds like Decca durabolin and oxadrolone, that proved to be usefule for patients with HIV....but their has been speculation on the rebound activity/production of cortisol, witch is a catabolic hormone witch may supress immune system functioning......During the period of imbalance, cortisol will strip the body of muscle mass, but may also cause somone to be more susceptible to colds and the flu.

We can all speculate all we want but anyone who's taken GEAR (More than your 5mgs a day that most of these studys like to use) Knows that it boost the immune system

 

[MXEng10]

On a test + eq cycle now, 500/600 wk and im sick, damn woman was sick, got me sick, but its been three days and it is going away. Where ur hat and mittens outside!!, (if u are in our cold as fuck area)

 

[gjohnson5]

I had the understanding that HIV actaully feeds on the body's fat storage , thus the use of gear. But I have read stories of folks trying to make 300 on massive amounts of gear and getting sick...

I know that Doctors perscribe GEAR to HIV patients to boost their immune system.
I would like to see a study saying that GEAR makes you lose your ability to fight off viruses and bacteria.

 

[52_21_30]

Gear boosts your immune system. If you want proof, get a CBC 6 or 8 weeks into your cycle. Your White Blood Cell count will be increased, although you may feel fine. The reason many people get sick while using gear is over-training. There's no amount of gear that can protect you from over-training, esp if you're doing so on a caloric deficit. This is why it's so challenging to prepare for contests in the winter months. Low calories, twice a day training sessions, plus crappy weather to boot.

Also, gear is given to AIDS patients to combat the muscle wasting they get as their condition progresses. The boost in immune system is a perque.

 

[gjohnson5]

If your white blood cell increases abnormally, this means that your body is fighting off a disease or an infection. This is not a good thing

Gear boosts your immune system. If you want proof, get a CBC 6 or 8 weeks into your cycle. Your White Blood Cell count will be increased, although you may feel fine. The reason many people get sick while using gear is over-training. There's no amount of gear that can protect you from over-training, esp if you're doing so on a caloric deficit. This is why it's so challenging to prepare for contests in the winter months. Low calories, twice a day training sessions, plus crappy weather to boot.

Also, gear is given to AIDS patients to combat the muscle wasting they get as their condition progresses. The boost in immune system is a perque.

 

[52_21_30]

No, it means that the AAS is stimulating the hematopoeitic cell line in your bone marrow, which increases (in part) the WBC count. Asymptomatic leukocytosis is a known side effects of AAS use. That being said, it's still possible to get sick when on gear. And in this case your WBC count would be increased and you would be symptomatic. Having a high white count without symptoms usually means a side effect of a drug (not just AS, many drugs can cause abnormalities in myeloid or lymphoid cell lines), or some type of leukemia. There are other zebra's of course, but discussing them here would be irrelevant.

 

[omega529]

We can all speculate all we want but anyone who's taken GEAR (More than your 5mgs a day that most of these studys like to use) Knows that it boost the immune system

im not saying it dosent boost your immune system.....yes, gear ups your immune system, but if your body gets out of wack (unstable injections as far as dosage) i would defenently see how it can screw your immune system up....expecially right after a cycle if you do not do a proper PCT....witch they have had studys on, but no i dont know the dosage, but i do know it was a study having to do with bodybuilders

 

[52_21_30]

im not saying it dosent boost your immune system.....yes, gear ups your immune system, but if your body gets out of wack (unstable injections as far as dosage) i would defenently see how it can screw your immune system up....expecially right after a cycle if you do not do a proper PCT....witch they have had studys on, but no i dont know the dosage, but i do know it was a study having to do with bodybuilders

PCT is my body's favorite time to get sick

 

[omega529]

PCT is my body's favorite time to get sick

bump

 

[gjohnson5]

Ok

http://www2.kumc.edu/instruction/nursing/nurs466/lecture notes/immune_function.htm

Types of Immunity

Cellular immunity involves the following cells: T lymphocytes, monocytes, neutrophils
Humoral immunity involves antibodies formed by B lymphocytes. Several types of humoral immunity occurs. The primary response involves the antibodies IgG and IgM. The secondary response begins immediately and results in long term recognition of specific antigens.

Leukocytosis - WBC > 10,000

Usually only one cell type is increased. If all cell types are increased, consider hemoconcentration. Leukocytosis occurs only in acute infections. In chronic infections, you may have high WBC but usually not above 10,000.

Causes of leukocytosis: Myeloproliferative diseases, leukemia, trauma or tissue injury, malignant neoplasms (esp. bronchogenic cancer), acute hemolysis, issue necrosis, toxins (uremia, coma, eclampsia, thyroid storm), drugs, acute hemorrhage, after splenectomy, polycythemia vera.

Leukocytosis is sometimes found without evidence of disease: Sunlight, ultraviolet irradiation, physiologic leukocytosis (excitement, stress, exercise, pain, heat or cold, anesthesia), nausea & vomiting, seizures, steroid therapy. ACTH causes leukocytosis in healthy person. ACTH masks leukocytosis in persons with severe infection .

No, it means that the AAS is stimulating the hematopoeitic cell line in your bone marrow, which increases (in part) the WBC count. Asymptomatic leukocytosis is a known side effects of AAS use. That being said, it's still possible to get sick when on gear. And in this case your WBC count would be increased and you would be symptomatic. Having a high white count without symptoms usually means a side effect of a drug (not just AS, many drugs can cause abnormalities in myeloid or lymphoid cell lines), or some type of leukemia. There are other zebra's of course, but discussing them here would be irrelevant.

 

[52_21_30]

Thanks for posting the reference!

 

[solidspine]

i've read that Testosterone increases the body's immune system. but when using steroids your body loses some of its ability to fight off viruses and bacteria. is this true? and if it is true, and you do get a cold, will the cold go away on its own or should you stop using asap?

After you have been on a month or so, your body adjusts, there are no negatives to gear and your immune system

You’re not more or less likely to get sick on gear.

There are so many absolutely mindless rumors and wife’s tales about gear.


Just do it for 10 years and you wonder what is wrong with the writers of this nonsense what is their problem why do they have to criticize gear 24/7.