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GeneticMutation
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The following is a C&P post that I made on another forum (was drifting through the internet and signed up just to correct what a person said regarding steroid laws in Canada) and I thought I should post it here too for people who may be curious.
"I don't frequent Anabolex very much and I do realize that a low post count will not lend as much credibility to this post. That being said, I know the internet is a place where egos can flare up and people tend to take things personally so as a disclaimer, I'm not attacking you Bakes
I beleive you have interpereted the CDSA incorrectly. Specifically, the section 4 with regards to 4(2). The correct way of reading it is as follows:
4. (1) Possesson od Substance-Except as authorized under the regulations, no person shall possess a substance included in Schedule I, II, or III.
(2) Obtaining Substance - No person shall seek or obtain
(a) a substance included in Schedule I, II, III, or IV, or
(b) an authorization to obtain a substance inculded in Schedule I, II, III, or IV
from a practitioner, unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.
You'll notice a seemingly small difference. Where after 4(2)(b) you had "from a practitioner.." in the same sentance, it should not be this way.
Whereas you wrote (a) and (b) referring them as seperate and distinct from each other, they are actually inclusive (notice the ", or"at the end of subsection (b).
The way you wrote the section means that nobody shall seek or obtain the mentioned substances, nor shall they seek or obtain an authorization from a practitioner.
The way it should be interpreted is: nobody shall seek or obtain the mentioned substances or an authorization to obtain them from a practitioner unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.
So in basic terms, using steroids as an example, S.4(a) means don't go to your doctor and ask for a bottle of test or TRT injections. S.4(b) means don't ask for a prescription for a bottle of test.
For both, the exception (unless) you tell your doctor why you want them and that you disclose if you have already obtained them from another doctor before.
The above section illustrates double-doctoring. It is to prevent people from going to one doctor getting a legitimate prescription for a controlled substance and visiting another doctor and getting another prescription. This stops people from abusing and selling schedule IV drugs, which are for the most part, barbituates and benzodiazepines (painkillers, muscle relaxants, steroids, other stuff that you would have to be a pharmacist to know)
To put it simply: Steroids are not exactly illegal. They are controlled substances, just like many other prescription drugs and drugs commonly administered in hospitals (Morphine, Codeine etc.)
For the rest of the CDSA you've listed, you've listed correctly.
But everyone wants to know the answer to the question, "What happens if I'm in possession of anabolic steroids?"
Answer? Nothing. Simple posession of barbituates, benziodiazepans and Anabolic Steroids - is not illegal. Buying them off of the street or at your local gym is NOT illegal. Well, maybe. We'll get to that in a bit.
What is illegal? Everything else. Trafficking, Production etc.
Buying juice overseas? Illegal. Trafficking. (Bringing into country)
Will lanything happen? Depends. I'm not the detective with an ego to boost on something minor like a small supply of a Schedule IV drug. Neither are most others. Keep in mind it IS illegal and like some people, you CAN get the short end of the stick.
Selling or even giving away juice? Illegal. Trafficking.
Posession of MASS quantities of juice? Illegal. The police will try to nail you with posession for purposes of trafficking.
One important note : NEVER underestimate the audacity of peace officers. There is NO statute of limitations on how much drugs constitutes as posession for purposes of trafficking. You could (hypothetically speaking) be charged if a cop finds 10 amps of Test-E. Though the burden will be on the crown to PROVE that you are trafficking drugs. Needless to say, with even a legal aid lawyer you should be able to walk as no credible authority will swear that 10 amps is way more than what is commonly used on cycle. While you may walk, you could set yourself up for potential headaches. Keep use on the down low. Don't drive around with a syringe and an amp on your front seat.
In addition, keep orders small and never possess any more than 1 full cycle on hand, this includes stuff you leave in the care of other people.
Hope I've helped."
"I don't frequent Anabolex very much and I do realize that a low post count will not lend as much credibility to this post. That being said, I know the internet is a place where egos can flare up and people tend to take things personally so as a disclaimer, I'm not attacking you Bakes
I beleive you have interpereted the CDSA incorrectly. Specifically, the section 4 with regards to 4(2). The correct way of reading it is as follows:
4. (1) Possesson od Substance-Except as authorized under the regulations, no person shall possess a substance included in Schedule I, II, or III.
(2) Obtaining Substance - No person shall seek or obtain
(a) a substance included in Schedule I, II, III, or IV, or
(b) an authorization to obtain a substance inculded in Schedule I, II, III, or IV
from a practitioner, unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.
You'll notice a seemingly small difference. Where after 4(2)(b) you had "from a practitioner.." in the same sentance, it should not be this way.
Whereas you wrote (a) and (b) referring them as seperate and distinct from each other, they are actually inclusive (notice the ", or"at the end of subsection (b).
The way you wrote the section means that nobody shall seek or obtain the mentioned substances, nor shall they seek or obtain an authorization from a practitioner.
The way it should be interpreted is: nobody shall seek or obtain the mentioned substances or an authorization to obtain them from a practitioner unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.
So in basic terms, using steroids as an example, S.4(a) means don't go to your doctor and ask for a bottle of test or TRT injections. S.4(b) means don't ask for a prescription for a bottle of test.
For both, the exception (unless) you tell your doctor why you want them and that you disclose if you have already obtained them from another doctor before.
The above section illustrates double-doctoring. It is to prevent people from going to one doctor getting a legitimate prescription for a controlled substance and visiting another doctor and getting another prescription. This stops people from abusing and selling schedule IV drugs, which are for the most part, barbituates and benzodiazepines (painkillers, muscle relaxants, steroids, other stuff that you would have to be a pharmacist to know)
To put it simply: Steroids are not exactly illegal. They are controlled substances, just like many other prescription drugs and drugs commonly administered in hospitals (Morphine, Codeine etc.)
For the rest of the CDSA you've listed, you've listed correctly.
But everyone wants to know the answer to the question, "What happens if I'm in possession of anabolic steroids?"
Answer? Nothing. Simple posession of barbituates, benziodiazepans and Anabolic Steroids - is not illegal. Buying them off of the street or at your local gym is NOT illegal. Well, maybe. We'll get to that in a bit.
What is illegal? Everything else. Trafficking, Production etc.
Buying juice overseas? Illegal. Trafficking. (Bringing into country)
Will lanything happen? Depends. I'm not the detective with an ego to boost on something minor like a small supply of a Schedule IV drug. Neither are most others. Keep in mind it IS illegal and like some people, you CAN get the short end of the stick.
Selling or even giving away juice? Illegal. Trafficking.
Posession of MASS quantities of juice? Illegal. The police will try to nail you with posession for purposes of trafficking.
One important note : NEVER underestimate the audacity of peace officers. There is NO statute of limitations on how much drugs constitutes as posession for purposes of trafficking. You could (hypothetically speaking) be charged if a cop finds 10 amps of Test-E. Though the burden will be on the crown to PROVE that you are trafficking drugs. Needless to say, with even a legal aid lawyer you should be able to walk as no credible authority will swear that 10 amps is way more than what is commonly used on cycle. While you may walk, you could set yourself up for potential headaches. Keep use on the down low. Don't drive around with a syringe and an amp on your front seat.
In addition, keep orders small and never possess any more than 1 full cycle on hand, this includes stuff you leave in the care of other people.
Hope I've helped."
