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Steroids and hype

people talk too much trash about roids....if you know what you are doing you will be a lot safer..learn about them first
 
steroids are unsafe in the wrong hands. like ultra said, learn about them and the biological mechanisms before you start juicing. then again even if they would kill us all next year, we would probably still do them.

bulldawg
 
They are somewhere in between how harmful they are portrayed in the media and how safe they are portrayed on these internet boards.
 
Blame the 17-alphas! Just about every problem ranging from
liver toxicity to increase in HDLC is a result from this modification.

Of course... if you're studying the effects of anabolics on fat ass, nasty, lazy, sick people of course you can manipulate your reported results to point the finger at the drugs. I.E. fat ass 57 year old subject A gets a liver carcinoma while on testosterone enanthate therapy = all steroids cause liver carcinoma
 
ultragainz said:
people talk too much trash about roids....if you know what you are doing you will be a lot safer..learn about them first

I hear ya... I had to sit and listen to a lecture from a chick the other night about it. Her boyfriend is the poster child that makes roids look bad to the public... he has temper tantrums, throws shit around, yells, gets in fights and blames it on the juice. Guys like that should lose their... privledge.

I also heard another guy who was taking 200mg Cyp and 300mg Deca for 10 weeks, and then staying off (everything) for 8 weeks and getting back on... I told him he'd lose just most of his size without clomid... but it went in one ear, and out the other.

C
 
One comment on roids and cancer. Test therapy is contraindicated for those with prostate enlargements and cancer. Granted, it could encourage growth of such tumors. But why is prostate cancer such a huge killer of adults during the latter parts of their lives. When their test levels are plummeting?
 
people believe anything the media tells them.
Example, I work at gnc (ughhhhh) and a guy came in asking if creatine really gives you cancer and brain tumours.
WTF?!? I laughed at him.
 
One thing that pisses me off is that in society, at least among college aged adults, like me, it is socially acceptable to do shit such as weed, shrooms, extacy, and just about any drug but crack. However, some rumor pops up about a guy using AS and he's some fucking wack job that is out of control.

All I can say is what good have any of those other drugs done for your body? As for AS, all one has to do is look at someone on them and they can see the good. Granted steriods have they're bad sides, but in the hands of knowledgeable users they arn't as bad as the majority of the world would like to think.
 
SORRY BRO'S BUT YOU CAN READ ALL YOU WANT ABOUT GEAR, BUT BOOK SMARTS DONT CUT IT IN THIS GAME TO A POINT. BOOK SMARTS ARE GOOD BUT KNOWING HOW YOUR BODY REACTS IS THE KEY. WHAT I MEAN BY THIS IS THAT YOU CAN READ EVERYTHING ABOUT A DRUG AND SEE HOW PEOPLE REACT WITH IT BUT YOU CANT TAKE THAT TO THE BANK. YOU MAY HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT REACTION TO IT AND SAY "WELL THE BOOK SAID" IT WONT MEAN SHIT. TO ME IT WAS ALL HANDS ON, YES I DID READ FIRST BUT TOOK IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. KNOWING YOUR BODY IS KEY TO ME.
 
Well lets just put it this way:

When I went to the emergency room because of my GH alergic reaction they told me about two patients they had this year..

one bodybuilder: had used for some years...developed an irregularity in the heart....they tried meds, it didn't work. Then they shocked him to get it back to normal (not sure if that meant..I assume some form of electric shock). Didn't work....he died three months later.

other individual: developed a brain tumor enlarged by growth hormone to the point where they couldn't tream him and flew him to LA to see someone there.....they operated unsuccessfully...then again....he also died.

I'm certain they are isolated incidents..then again...anyone one of us can turn out to be an isolated incident...

makes you think....
 
I think the key of safety is moderation.

If you drink a bottle of Tequila once in a year, smoke grass once every few months or do steroids 2 or 3 times a year in decent amounts.... it won't kill you.

But if you drink a bottle of Tequila every weekend, smoke daily and do steroids in big amounts year round.... well I guess in a few years you'll be all fucked up!
 
There's a big difference between use and abuse, that difference is usually either ignorance/indifference or sheer recklessness!
 
i wouldn't say 'a lot' safer, unless you know what the side effects are & how to avoid getting them.

other than that, i would say a little safer. some of those 'roid horror stories' involve 16 year olds taking 1000 mg of test a week for 4 months straight. at least that is the first that comes to mind.

that is basic shit. 8 weeks max.
 
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