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Steroid Cycle "again"

nini

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Hi, new to this forum. I am not a supplement fundi. I asked this question earlier and received a rather rude answer. Let me try again. My son and I have been bodybuilding for 4 yrs, we have been taking the advice of fellow gym goers on what supplements to take and frankly this has proved futile. I wish to put my son and I on a cycle and as mentioned I am not a fundi on this so therefore I decided to subscribe to elite fitness to get pro advice. After reading through chemistry wizardry I thought I would try the "ultimate II" cycle which consists of, Deca, tren, dbol and hcg. All I ask is an opinion/advice, is this a good cycle for mass, strength gains and lower body fat? If not please give me your thoughts.
 
I have not used aas before but I can tell you, keep it simple. Don't use anything other than test for your first cycle. Adding all those compounds on your first go is a nightmare waiting to happen, especially with tren and deca. Save those for later down the road.
 
what does fundi mean?

what are you and your sons stats? goals? lifts? tell us more about you both if you want proper advice.

a first cycle should be 1 compound and you should have your pct lined up as well as you should do your homework. these are powerful hormones and nothing to fuck around with
 
How old is your son?
 
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