Hi, new to this forum. I am not a supplement fundi. I asked this question earlier and received a rather rude answer. Let me try again. My son and I have been bodybuilding for 4 yrs, we have been taking the advice of fellow gym goers on what supplements to take and frankly this has proved futile. I wish to put my son and I on a cycle and as mentioned I am not a fundi on this so therefore I decided to subscribe to elite fitness to get pro advice. After reading through chemistry wizardry I thought I would try the "ultimate II" cycle which consists of, Deca, tren, dbol and hcg. All I ask is an opinion/advice, is this a good cycle for mass, strength gains and lower body fat? If not please give me your thoughts.

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