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Stem Cells and Morality

1) Stem cell research is necessary and vital.

2) As a pro-choice atheist, I personally have zero issues with embryonic stem cell research

3) IMO they should side-step the entire controversy by getting the most out of adult stem cells first and then resorting to embryonic stem cells later. So for now, lay off embryonic cells and stick to adult ones.

To me, it seems like the left loves to fixate on embryonic stem cell research simply so they can poke the religious nutjobs in the eye with a stick. That's not science, nor is it sound thinking in general.
 
1) Stem cell research is necessary and vital.

2) As a pro-choice atheist, I personally have zero issues with embryonic stem cell research

3) IMO they should side-step the entire controversy by getting the most out of adult stem cells first and then resorting to embryonic stem cells later. So for now, lay off embryonic cells and stick to adult ones.

To me, it seems like the left loves to fixate on embryonic stem cell research simply so they can poke the religious nutjobs in the eye with a stick. That's not science, nor is it sound thinking in general.

you need to walk through the valley in the shadow of death
I did and I feared evil
it's all around
Johnny and Jill church goers since day one say it but don't know what it means
you're not Johnny and/or Jill
you've seen no evil
 
I like you used to scoff at the idea of Adam
and to a lesser extent Eve
heh
using modern DNA mapping they have traced all human DNA to one individual
and that tribe in Africa still exists
amongest them you can see the genetic variation that went to separate continents
one individual
now I ask you
what came first
the chicken or the egg?
 
I'm one of the few right wing extremists who supports all forms of stem cell research. It's stupid not to, when we have the technology, and it will save many lives. And I'm pro choice too, in most cases (with the exception being that I think people should plan better, and use abortion as a last resort if adoption is not feasible). If I had been unwanted, I would rather have been aborted than stuck in care of the state, and probably wound up in a welfare home on drugs, as so many unwanted kids do.

Charles
 
I like you used to scoff at the idea of Adam
and to a lesser extent Eve
heh
using modern DNA mapping they have traced all human DNA to one individual
and that tribe in Africa still exists
amongest them you can see the genetic variation that went to separate continents
one individual
now I ask you
what came first
the chicken or the egg?

I'm not an enthusiastic atheist
And I'm certainly not an evangelical one
In the absence of proof though, I gotta break with science
I'm pulling for God, actually
 
yeah
watch some natgeo for a few hours hung over on a sunday
supernovas, blackholes, super this nebulas
and you think wtf
 
cindygirl et. al. will be here after they're done doing whatever they do
title nees a better hook
but what the hell
 
I'm not an enthusiastic atheist
And I'm certainly not an evangelical one
In the absence of proof though, I gotta break with science
I'm pulling for God, actually

pretty much sums up myself
not enthused about it, not screaming to others about it, not really trying to promote it.
i like going to church for the community aspect and the good peeps, and i'd love to fully believe, but i just don't...i'm proly more agnotistic than atheist, nice to have a lil hope...
 
hire pick3 to stand in an outrageous outfit outside the other threads
calling attention to the stem cells thread
give him some coupons to hand out
 
anybody ever point out to the USN that sharks,polor bears and I assume other predators eat that blubber
the point being you don't have to hold your breath for 2.5 minutes underwater and carry a greased up log to the sand to defeat the enemy
know how he thinks
and exploit that
while the enemy's own navy seals are sittin' in the bush/desert for 3 days without water
training
 
I like you used to scoff at the idea of Adam
and to a lesser extent Eve
heh
using modern DNA mapping they have traced all human DNA to one individual
and that tribe in Africa still exists
amongest them you can see the genetic variation that went to separate continents
one individual
now I ask you
what came first
the chicken or the egg?

A visitor from ouer space? a genatic evolution/mutation ? we evolve in this world by the few not the many....
many things
 
A visitor from ouer space? a genatic evolution/mutation ? we evolve in this world by the few not the many....
many things

well since you mentioned it nostradomus
there occured two key genetic shifts in mankind
about 75% of the schedule received an intellectual shift
and 25% got an extreme physical shift
the intellectuals moved out of africa-well lets call it subsahara
but the physical shift made it's way to where
well logically where you need human labor
are very few got both the intelligence "shift" and physical shift
and they are in the NFL, NBA etc.
 
you can fact check me and I'm sure you won't find Leonardo reverend jackson even knowing what I'm talking about
jesse jackson is a pox on the people he purports to defend
it's about Jesse
you fools
 
I'm not an enthusiastic atheist
And I'm certainly not an evangelical one
In the absence of proof though, I gotta break with science
I'm pulling for God, actually

Why are you "pulling" for a supernatural North Korea as your afterlife where a perceived benevolent dictator controls all your actions and thoughts? To quote the late Christopher Hitchens," At least you can escape North Korea by dying."

I'm pulling for a final death over being subjected to an eternal dictatorship....which is basically eternal slavery.
 
Why are you "pulling" for a supernatural North Korea as your afterlife where a perceived benevolent dictator controls all your actions and thoughts? To quote the late Christopher Hitchens," At least you can escape North Korea by dying."

I'm pulling for a final death over being subjected to an eternal dictatorship....which is basically eternal slavery.

That's because you have issues with religion. You've been hurt by religion and can't figure-out how to hit it back.

It's completely normal to feel a romantic allure toward a higher power. Theism developed as part of our natural evolution and we're clearly still within that evolutionary envelop. Over time, it will probably boil out of our genes, but disconnecting people abruptly from religion is no different than holding their heads underwater for an hour to see if they evolve gills.
 
It's completely normal to feel a romantic allure toward a higher power. Theism developed as part of our natural evolution and we're clearly still within that evolutionary envelop. disconnecting people abruptly from religion is no different than holding their heads underwater for an hour to see if they evolve gills.

Yep. :) Being anti-religion is like being anti-art or anti-literature. Or anti-facial hair. Lol. I'm anti-new atheism. Lol. It's anti-social.

Hitchens explanation of the afterlife, what religion is that?
 
that was really difficult to even cut and paste
like some chinese tasked with protecting it
carry on
 
yo musclemom
let me be clear
regardless of your beliefs
why do you advertise such an offensive
 
yo musclemom
let me be clear
regardless of your beliefs
why do you advertise such an offensive
Pure accident I found this ... I gotta ask "why do I advertise such an offensive ____?" what? Could you give me a noun or something here?

I didn't even post in this thread before this point. Nice job, Spart, clearly you're on the way now. Keep chugging and get that BAL up!
 
Pure accident I found this ... I gotta ask "why do I advertise such an offensive ____?" what? Could you give me a noun or something here?

I didn't even post in this thread before this point. Nice job, Spart, clearly you're on the way now. Keep chugging and get that BAL up!

let the crowd judge who is ahead
chunky
 
let the crowd judge who is ahead
chunky
Well, we'll just let the crowd decide where your ethanol addled mind was going while we're at it as well. BTW, chunky? Tell me you aren't actually devolving to name calling!?

Frankly, at 47, with more painful health issues than I care to list, if there is any extra fluff ain't a lot I can do about it right now. My hubby still can't seem to keep his hands off me after 18 years so it can't be all bad :qt:
 
I like you used to scoff at the idea of Adam
and to a lesser extent Eve
heh

heh @ lesser extent :)

Adam and Eve don't need to be real...I wish that they were because Eve wasn't named until after "The Fall" Eve was the crown of creation equal yet above Adam. Yep. Above. :D Before the fall Adam is both Adam and Eve. The man is called the man and the woman is called the woman, two but one Adam. After the fall he keeps the name Adam and she is named Eve.

They don't need to be real literal people.. The garden does not have to be real, the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, none of it literal to be true. The story is about Evil and The Will and the fallen state of humanity and human nature. The characteristics of The Serpent, who manipulated the woman. The myth of Cain and Abel is the same, the characteristics of Cain are a warning of evil. It's at your door and it desires you. You must rule over it. :evil:
 
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