Staying on 500mgs of Test for 35 weeks

[dosteov]

Just curious health wise what the negative consequences of this will be. Assuming I have normal blood pressure and good cholesterol.

The thing is I'm going to be running GH (4IUs ed 5on 2off) for a year.

I'm currently in week 4 of what was going to be a 15 week cycle (Test500mgs week). So was thinking of staying on the Test (maybe even throw some Tren in there) for another 10-20 weeks to aide with fat loss and lean muscle gain. Was going to come off the Test and run the GH 8-10 weeks past to aide with recovery.

What do you all think?

 

[Mr.X]

Unless your'e doing TRT/HRT, you need to cycle off. You need to give your body a rest...remember, health is your number one priority.

 

[Triple J]

there really is not much risk to this just keep your BP in line if you have estrogen problems. personally my body adjusts to that level of T pretty quick so beyond a couple months i would expect your gains to plateau

 

[20ss02]

Unless your'e doing TRT/HRT, you need to cycle off. You need to give your body a rest...remember, health is your number one priority.

Why is there a need to cycle off 500mg/test? What are the negative health implications of staying on?

I know several people who are on for years at that dose, and I have yet to see one adverse effect on health.

 

[dosteov]

Unless your'e doing TRT/HRT, you need to cycle off. You need to give your body a rest...remember, health is your number one priority.

Well I'm hoping to get the synergestic effects of GH and Test. What risks are there Mr.X? Assuming I keep my BP in check and I have good cholesterol.

 

[nisser512]

Why is there a need to cycle off 500mg/test? What are the negative health implications of staying on?

I know several people who are on for years at that dose, and I have yet to see one adverse effect on health.

If you never come off, YOU WON'T BE AFFECTED AT ALL. However, there is a large chance that you'll be permanently shut off. That's the adverse effect. If you plan to do this, be ready to never come off until you die.

 

[Mr.X]

Why is there a need to cycle off 500mg/test? What are the negative health implications of staying on?

I know several people who are on for years at that dose, and I have yet to see one adverse effect on health.

I'm going to give you an extreme example. If you pick up smoking today, you wont feel the sides until years down the road - cancer, lung disease etc... The same goes for anything that puts your body out of homeostasis. Eventually, you'll start feeling the health implications.

Of course, this doesn't apply for trt/hrt - this is mainly for the younger guys who are abusing steroids (that's right abusing, not using).

 

[Ulter]

I have used about 500mg/wk for 6 years. You'll be fine.

 

[BigCracker]

Just curious health wise what the negative consequences of this will be. Assuming I have normal blood pressure and good cholesterol.

The thing is I'm going to be running GH (4IUs ed 5on 2off) for a year.

I'm currently in week 4 of what was going to be a 15 week cycle (Test500mgs week). So was thinking of staying on the Test (maybe even throw some Tren in there) for another 10-20 weeks to aide with fat loss and lean muscle gain. Was going to come off the Test and run the GH 8-10 weeks past to aide with recovery.

What do you all think?

I prefer to see you use gh 7 days instead of the frugal man's 5 on 2 off method. Why not just do 3 ius daily? It's only one extra iu per week. Stable levels of gh daily cannot be a bad thing.

 

[Ulter]

GH long term (over 6 months) should be dosed EOD. If you dose it daily for a long period your body man not recognize your own once you stop.

 

[Stryker1992]

I tend to agree that the dose for that peroid of time is not going to cause any major issues. I have done 2 cycles like that in the past and had my doc monitor everything. There is the usual BP and cholesterol shift but with proper revoery everything went back to normal and the gains stayed quite well.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

fuck thats a lot of test...but i knew ulter had been on as long as he has...just get a good doc...ulter you have been on deca for the same length...right?

 

[Ulter]

Yes I have

 

[dosteov]

GH long term (over 6 months) should be dosed EOD. If you dose it daily for a long period your body man not recognize your own once you stop.

So 5on 2off is not good? I should switch it to EOD?

 

[Ulter]

Yes if you're going to use it long term. Double the dose and use it EOD.

 

[20ss02]

I'm going to give you an extreme example. If you pick up smoking today, you wont feel the sides until years down the road - cancer, lung disease etc... The same goes for anything that puts your body out of homeostasis. Eventually, you'll start feeling the health implications.

Of course, this doesn't apply for trt/hrt - this is mainly for the younger guys who are abusing steroids (that's right abusing, not using).

I understand the point you're trying to make, but I don't think the example is relevant. Smoking exposes the body to carcinogens and tar buildup in the lungs. These are known to have negative health effects.

Are there any examples to support the assertion that long term test supplementation will lead to negative health consequences? I have yet to read any. On the flip side, I have read about the positive effects of HRT. I've also witnessed the effects on friends. These people appear to be much younger than they really are. They also have youthful energy.

 

[DBBT]

Yes I have

bump for Ulter's current doses and compounds

 

[jmead]

hes given them a few times, its a long list of different compounds ran at different times haha.. its so tempting to do so when you have access to all thses wonderful aas.. i just tossed npp into a test/eq cycle.. and im itching at the fingers to put dbol back in after the npp clears

 

[20ss02]

I'm on 600mg/week of Enanthate. I started 3 weeks after finishing up a 10 week cutting cycle of Anavar, Test Prop and EQ. I will cycle up and switch compounds, as needed - but I don't plan to come off.