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State-sponsored, MANDATORY Mental Health Screening

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IL launches compulsory mental health screening for children and pregnant women

Monday, July 19, 2004

By The Leader-Chicago Bureau


CHICAGO -- This week, a series of public forums on a program requiring all pregnant women and children through age 18 years to be tested for mental health needs is being held this week in five different locations statewide.

One group of parents learned about the state's plans to proceed with this program and on Monday issued an alarm asking for parents and citizens concerned about the new program to voice their opinions at the forums.

"We're moving toward social training over academic training with this program," Larry Trainor, a Mt. Prospect parent of four children and a contact for Citizens Commission on Human Rights, based in Los Angeles, said today.

"Since psychiatric involvement in education, SAT scores have gone down for the past few decades. Evaluating mental conditions is not based on scientific evidence, it's subjective," he said.

The $10 million plan for the setup of the Children's Mental Health Act of 2003 is being considered at this week's public forums starting Monday, July 18 in Champaign.

Signed into law, the bill passed the Illinois General Assembly last spring, sponsored in the House by State Representatives Julie Hamos (D-Evanston) and Patricia Bellock (R-Westmont). State Senator Maggie Crotty (D-Oak Forest) and Susan Garrett (D-Highwood) shepherded the legislation through the Senate.

The legislation passed the House with a 107 to 5 vote, and the Senate unanimously.

"What if they find a student has a math disorder, a reading disorder. Would that be a mental health disorder, one that would cause the parents to put their children with a drug for a condition they may or may not have?" Trainor asked.

The mental health program will develop a mental health system for "all children ages 0-18 years," provide for screening to "ensure appropriate and culturally relevant assessment of young children's social and emotional development with the use of standardized tools."

Also, all pregnant women will be screened for depression and thereafter following her baby's birth, up to one year. Follow-up treatment services will also be provided.

Trainor said that he is trying to get parents and citizens out to voice their opinion about the new program.

Apparently, children's mental health will be assessed along with their academic standards in the new proposed testing. The Illinois State Board of Education has been given the responsibility to develop the appropriate tests, according to last year's legislation.

The Task Force hosting the public forums this week are to send a recommendation to Governor Blagojevich by the end of the summer, according to the Act (HB 2900).

Developing story . . .
 
seig heil

ja, and eef you dont kooperate, your kin vill be taken away for the good of the publik and thee state.

eef you or your children dare to express views or concern contrary to that of thee state, you vill be labled enemy of the peoples and the revolicion.
 
As long as they also have a plan and $ to help these people that are
identified I see all goodness..

Would you rather we pretend the mentally disabled aren't out there ?
I think thats what we are currently doing for the most part..
 
oh yeah, this is coming up for a vote in the house to be done on the NATIONAL level.

have a different personality than the status quo? medication, indoctrination..err..therapy, and notice sent to the proper authorities.

have different political beliefs? medication, indoctrination..err..therapy, and notice sent to the proper authorities.

have different beliefs/values/morals than the status quo? medication, indoctrination..err..therapy, and notice sent to the proper authorities.
 
Y_Lifter said:
As long as they also have a plan and $ to help these people that are
identified I see all goodness..

Would you rather we pretend the mentally disabled aren't out there ?
I think thats what we are currently doing for the most part..

you dont see this as a bit orwellian?

just to give you one example...some violence prevention programs say if someone is 'homophobic', they are considered to be potentially violent.
 
p0ink said:
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have different political beliefs?

Coming from one of the most closed minded, tunnelvisioned people on this board, this is hilarious.
 
WOW funny the biggest backers were all women. Why do most woment hey they are some kind of fucking dime store psychologist.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

How much you all want to bet that the pharmaceutical industry is behind this in some way and is probably a big contrbituor to the campaigns of all of those women
 
niggest?

I can't stop laughing....
 
p0ink said:
you dont see this as a bit orwellian?

just to give you one example...some violence prevention programs say if someone is 'homophobic', they are considered to be potentially violent.

We can't and likely never will be able to drill down to that level of detail.
Just being able to tell if the person has physical issues or glaring mental health needs.. ID'ing and getting this kid or Woman mental help is no different than the forced screening for Scolliosis(sp?) that we all had to do in Middle School..

Orwellain to me is DNA testing that will show a future disease that you are pre disposed to and that info getting to insurance companies driving availability and cost..
 
see, this is how law-abiding citizens turn into criminals.

they get a letter saying their children are to report to the government to receive a mandatory 'mental health screening'. they say to hell with the government, because they know what is best for their children, and it sure as hell isnt some clown in office. a public school teacher hears the children haven't received their mandatory, 'mental health' screening from the government. they tell social services. social services takes away their children for 'neglect' and for the children's 'safety'. the parents wind up having their name in the local paper about how they were 'unfit parents' and 'abusive' for denying their children the 'help' they supposedly need.

and the rest either ends up with countless hours and money spent on litigation, violence, jail sentences, foster homes, etc.

don't think it can't and won't happen.
 
p0ink said:
see, this is how law-abiding citizens turn into criminals.

they get a letter saying their children are to report to the government to receive a mandatory 'mental health screening'. they say to hell with the government, because they know what is best for their children, and it sure as hell isnt some clown in office. a public school teacher hears the children haven't received their mandatory, 'mental health' screening from the government. they tell social services. social services takes away their children for 'neglect' and for the children's 'safety'. the parents wind up having their name in the local paper about how they were 'unfit parents' and 'abusive' for denying their children the 'help' they supposedly need.

and the rest either ends up with countless hours and money spent on litigation, violence, jail sentences, foster homes, etc.

don't think it can't and won't happen.

... ^ ..The Dillon Klebold story
 
Doomed.
 
bdog527 said:
Maybe they should focus on educating our kids properly first.

Maybe that should be the parents' responsibility not the government's.
 
Harrison Bergeron - read it, that is where we are going
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Maybe that should be the parents' responsibility not the government's.


agreed but since I don't see that happening anytime soon maybe a little more fiscal accountability and responsibility should be the focus instead of creating new costly programs.
 
bdog527 said:
agreed but since I don't see that happening anytime soon maybe a little more fiscal accountability and responsibility should be the focus instead of creating new costly programs.

The only answer is to take the education mechanism away from government.

Show me any government program that is accountable and cost-controlled.

There are none. You and I both know that.

Learn to love property rights. Keep what you earn.
 
speechless.....the potential for misdiagnosis and prejudice is HUGE
 
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