Well considering the I am only 5'5", I was just wondering. He competes in the natural circuit and was wondering if it was atainable without drugs. It seems like a good base instead of being a fat slob and trying to get down for a contest. From what I have learned chemicals take a tole on the body and so does yo-yo dietting. Since I am interested in chemicals I want to eliminate the other. I have no problem bulking, It is the staying lean part I have yet to master. Would much rather have to go up in weight than come down. Or better yet refine instead of going up or down. saint7 P.S. Remember Lee Priest is 5'5"