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Spike Lee = Big Douche

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agreed, Clint Eastwood is one of the most non-controversial actors ever. Spike Lee is RACIST
 
Clint Eastwood is one of the best dire tors ever. Spike lee is a piece of shit ...
 
Reverse Racism is wide spread in the Blanq community and spike lee is one of the leading proponents of it.
 
heavy_duty said:
Hollywood does have their own slant on the contribution of blacks in WWII - this is true--douche or no douche.
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It could be the fact that apparently the only black soldiers during the beginning of the battle were held back on the beach due to the nature of their job function. The film was about the raising of the flag, which was done by all white soldiers. Nothing racist about that.

To the best of my recollection, the Morgan Freeman character in Unforgiven was originally written for a white actor. Old racist Clint decided to change things around. That bastard.
 
I only go by what my grand father, my father and other black soldiers (and some white) tell me. I tend not to go by movies. Chances of me changing what anybody on EF thinks about it are slim to none.
 
heavy_duty said:
I only go by what my grand father, my father and other black soldiers (and some white) tell me. I tend not to go by movies. Chances of me changing what anybody on EF thinks about it are slim to none.
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Eh thats the point of this forum. We can have a mature discussion about it if you want...once this whole mess with Clint and Spike started I took a look at a lot of accounts that confirmed what Clint said.

Again, nobody is saying that black soldiers didnt fight or die on the island...simply that they (for one reason or another) had no part in raising the flag.
 
i don't know about this, but i said WTF when he (apparently) sued the spike tv network for using 'his' name. i have to wonder if i'm missing something on that one, because it seems absurd.
 
I used to have a cat named Spike, I'm glad he didn't sue me.

Spike was black, too.
 
I dunno. I'm sure I like one of his movies. Just like Clint. I've only liked one of his movies. The rest were shit (IMHO).
 
The Egyptians were majorly pissed off when Lou Gosset Jr. was cast as Anwar Sadat for some TV movie here.
 
I dunno, I need to research this further. But just from the wording of the part in bold definitely could be speculated that race played a part in the selection of troops in certain job functions. I don't think there's any question that this happened in those times , the question is does that pertain to the flag raising in Iwo Jima (which I believe this is based on)

http://www.mpma28.com/page/page/2271596.htm

Anyway This may be the point that Spike is trying to get across, but you would have to look at his point of view for a few seconds before automatically knocking him as a racist.

But it strikes me as interesting that Clint Eastwood can't be mis-stating or misconstruing Iwo Jima history by the posts on this thread...

75th said:
It could be the fact that apparently the only black soldiers during the beginning of the battle were held back on the beach due to the nature of their job function. The film was about the raising of the flag, which was done by all white soldiers. Nothing racist about that.

To the best of my recollection, the Morgan Freeman character in Unforgiven was originally written for a white actor. Old racist Clint decided to change things around. That bastard.
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This is part of an e-mail my Father sent me today.
FYI - he's 85 years old and a WWII vet.

Black personnel were present in significant numbers in just about every offensive the Americans made. Because they were segregated from the whites, it was easy for the PR people to ignore them - and they did. So you have guys who are fighting for a country and making a difference and that country doesn't give a damn about them. I just shake my head.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I dunno, I need to research this further. But just from the wording of the part in bold definitely could be speculated that race played a part in the selection of troops in certain job functions. I don't think there's any question that this happened in those times , the question is does that pertain to the flag raising in Iwo Jima (which I believe this is based on)

http://www.mpma28.com/page/page/2271596.htm

Anyway This may be the point that Spike is trying to get across, but you would have to look at his point of view for a few seconds before automatically knocking him as a racist.

But it strikes me as interesting that Clint Eastwood can't be mis-stating or misconstruing Iwo Jima history by the posts on this thread...
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I dont think thats what Spike is saying. He is talking about the movie specifically.

Look at the photo. For better or worse no black man was involved in raising it. Im sure they were a valuable part of that offensive...but the film was about the flag itself.
 
heavy_duty said:
This is part of an e-mail my Father sent me today.
FYI - he's 85 years old and a WWII vet.

Black personnel were present in significant numbers in just about every offensive the Americans made. Because they were segregated from the whites, it was easy for the PR people to ignore them - and they did. So you have guys who are fighting for a country and making a difference and that country doesn't give a damn about them. I just shake my head.
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So does your dad feel the same way about your cousin serving in the US Military?
 
heavy_duty said:
This is part of an e-mail my Father sent me today.
FYI - he's 85 years old and a WWII vet.

Black personnel were present in significant numbers in just about every offensive the Americans made. Because they were segregated from the whites, it was easy for the PR people to ignore them - and they did. So you have guys who are fighting for a country and making a difference and that country doesn't give a damn about them. I just shake my head.
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Again, look at the photo.

Nobody is trying to argue the sacrifice that black soldiers have given in that or any other war. It just so happens that out of a handful of people who raised the flag, they werent involved.

Its like getting mad that a black man wasnt playing an astronaut in Apollo 13.
 
Gotta ove Clint Eastwood.. the guy is brutally honest and you dont have to question his motives.

To call him racist is just fucking ignorant..

I cant really imagine Spike Lee's motivation in this.. really serves no purpose whatsoever.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
I cant really imagine Spike Lee's motivation in this.. really serves no purpose whatsoever.
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His own WWII movie about an all black regiment is coming out in a few months.

Free publicity.

Remind me to complain when this true story of all black soldiers doesnt include any whiteys.
 
75th said:
His own WWII movie about an all black regiment is coming out in a few months.

Free publicity.

Remind me to complain when this true story of all black soldiers doesnt include any whiteys.
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RACIST!!
 
Beachboy6294 said:
So does your dad feel the same way about your cousin serving in the US Military?
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It is not my cousin. The bro in Iraq is not related to my father and my father has never met him.
 
heavy_duty said:
Is it true that clint has no blacks in the movie at all?
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He had no blacks making the initial assault and raising the flag. According to pretty much everybody that was there, this is accurate.

About a week ago when this hoopla first came out I read a mini-interview with a black soldier who was present (after the initial wave, of course) and he agreed that it was spot on.

But then again, thats just one guys recollection.
 
75th said:
He had no blacks making the initial assault and raising the flag. According to pretty much everybody that was there, this is accurate.

About a week ago when this hoopla first came out I read a mini-interview with a black soldier who was present (after the initial wave, of course) and he agreed that it was spot on.

But then again, thats just one guys recollection.
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Post the source please....
 
Yawn. Blacks are left out of Hollywood's take on historic events. Whites bitch about reverse racism. What else is now? Is hell still hot?
 
heavy_duty said:
This is part of an e-mail my Father sent me today.
FYI - he's 85 years old and a WWII vet.

Black personnel were present in significant numbers in just about every offensive the Americans made. Because they were segregated from the whites, it was easy for the PR people to ignore them - and they did. So you have guys who are fighting for a country and making a difference and that country doesn't give a damn about them. I just shake my head.
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Read the article folks- Clint explained it quite clearly. Typical you guys making comments without reading the link.
 
75th said:
I dont think thats what Spike is saying. He is talking about the movie specifically.

Look at the photo. For better or worse no black man was involved in raising it. Im sure they were a valuable part of that offensive...but the film was about the flag itself.
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Exactly.

This reminds me of the 9/11 tribute in NYC. I cannot remember the specifics but the stature they created has people from three different races yet it was based on three individuals who were white. They changed it because they didn't want to offend anyone.

Re-writing history is pure bullshit.
 
75th said:
I dont think thats what Spike is saying. He is talking about the movie specifically.

Look at the photo. For better or worse no black man was involved in raising it. Im sure they were a valuable part of that offensive...but the film was about the flag itself.
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Mr McPhatter, who went on to serve in Vietnam and rose to the rank of lieutenant commander in the US navy, even had a part in the raising of the flag. "The man who put the first flag up on Iwo Jima got a piece of pipe from me to put the flag up on," he says. That, too, is absent from the film.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/20/usa.film
 
You will get differing opinions whether you ask a group of cacucasian males, african americans - or even asians. Pick ANY race-related issue.

Welcome to race in America! Multicularism - an experiment that failed.

r
 
Razorguns said:
You will get differing opinions whether you ask a group of cacucasian males, african americans - or even asians. Pick ANY race-related issue.

Welcome to race in America! Multicularism - an experiment that failed.

r
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Razorguns again.
 
billfred said:
Read the article folks- Clint explained it quite clearly. Typical you guys making comments without reading the link.
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Well the link I read above says "He said: "Of all the movies that have been made of Iwo Jima, you never see a black face"

If you're OK with that then thats your biz.
 
That was the thing about being an Airborne Ranger we only had two blacks in my unit cause they don't like all the crap we have to do. The two black guys were awesome though!! I know their were alot of blacks in the war just like that all black air squad that they made that movie about but don't go changing history or a movie so you don't piss a race off.
 
Dial_tone said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/20/usa.film
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The movie was about the guys who put the second flag up, not the first. It was about how that publicity destroyed them, especially the American Indian. The American Indian and the Navy Hospital Corpsman were upset that they got all the publicity when it was their seargent who was the real hero.

The black units that were in the landing at Iwo Jima did take fire and returned it but were not combat units.
 
At Iwo Jima, the 8th Marine Ammunition Company and the 33d, 34th, and 36th Marine Depot Companies served as part of the shore party of the V Amphibious Corps.

There were 11 black Marines wounded, 2 of which died. That's out of 27,909 casualties, 6,825 dead, during the invasion of Iwo Jima.
 
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