lol here we go.. First wave came with QV and now spectros trying to make the splash on the scene. Im sure spectro will make a decent product, Ttokkyo is proven for a while now, they dont have any dirty gear they had 2 test products which had an excess of alch that caused burning they have been fixed. I hope spectro doesnt resort to the same tactics that made denkall and company lose cred (smearing good products). Taking aim at #1 is the way the smaller guys try to get big, as long as its fair it ok, but I would stay away from any companies that try to bad mouth comp without any facts. Spectro is too new to get a good opinion right now, and even so give the underground company a year before they prove themselves. From what I heard from 1 person that I trust that has used them they seem decent, no better than ttokkyos product for sure, but he didnt say it was any less of quality either.