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Someone Please Help Build Me A Dbol Only Cycle

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tzan

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I'm thinking of running a dbol only cycle for 6weeks, and could use some help from the experts. I know it's important to taper with dbols, but I've never used them before and really am not sure how much to take and when. Please don't tell me to throw something else in with the dbols, because this is just an inbetween cycle to help me gain a little more mass, and I'm curious to see what I can get from just the dbols.
Thanks
 
keep the dosage the same.. go u can get good results as long as u go with a dosage between 35-50mg.. don't go over 50 unless u have a few cycles under the belt IMO.
 
When did 30mg of dbol become a minimum?

The minimum is 15mg daily (and some can gain with less) - 30mg is high (this is for recreational users or guys who do 1-2 cycles per year <1 gram per week). A newbie will get fine results in the 15-30mg range. I know several excellent weightlifters who have never exceeded 25mg daily even when used alone.

These were not the dosages 10 years ago or 20 years ago and we all still grew like weeds - human physiology hasn't changed, just the availability and price of the drugs.

4 weeks at 15-20 mg has yeilded me 15 lbs - kept 12, no clomid. I've used these types of dosages personally on multiple occasions as have so many others I know of.

In 10 years everyone will be saying that you need 80mg daily to see anything and that the body can't even function without 2 grams of test. I am so glad I did my own research, started low, and that these boards weren't around when I was first started this stuff.
 
thats your opinion but why use 15mg and gain 15lbs when u might be able to use 30mg (a safe dose by the way) and gain even more? im not telling him to do anything unsafe so i don't see the big deal. to me, 30mg is a mild to moderate dose.
 
I don't know what your history with AAS is but for a first cycle I would say try something like this if you are set on using just dbol:

wk-------dbol
1---------30mg/ED
2---------30mg/ED
3---------25mg/ED
4---------25mg/ED
5---------20mg/ED
6---------15mg/ED


Total = 203 5mg dbols

Just my 2 cents,

-Pfieff
 
cypionate said:
thats your opinion but why use 15mg and gain 15lbs when u might be able to use 30mg (a safe dose by the way) and gain even more? im not telling him to do anything unsafe so i don't see the big deal. to me, 30mg is a mild to moderate dose.
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It's not a big deal and it wasn't directed at you but the whole board, every response indicated 30mg + (multiple references to 50mg). 15lbs. is a big gain in a short amount of time - visualize 15lbs. of steak at the butchers and how it would look plastered on the body. Plus, gains beyond this can be difficult to hold unless you are going to continually cycle this stuff with time on/off protocal.

I want this guy to understand that only recently have these doses been advocated for first timers. If you solely read this thread, you'd think 30mg was an absolute minimum and like I said - I've seen guys who can put 500 overhead and countless cycles never use over 25mg.

The goal of many first timers is significant progress, not a total metamorphasis that leaves them looking like the posterboy for roids.
 
MadCow1 said:


It's not a big deal and it wasn't directed at you but the whole board, every response indicated 30mg + (multiple references to 50mg). 15lbs. is a big gain in a short amount of time - visualize 15lbs. of steak at the butchers and how it would look plastered on the body. Plus, gains beyond this can be difficult to hold unless you are going to continually cycle this stuff with time on/off protocal.

I want this guy to understand that only recently have these doses been advocated for first timers. If you solely read this thread, you'd think 30mg was an absolute minimum and like I said - I've seen guys who can put 500 overhead and countless cycles never use over 25mg.

The goal of many first timers is significant progress, not a total metamorphasis that leaves them looking like the posterboy for roids.
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There is some truth in what you are saying...

On EF I am constantly amazed at the doses some are advocating... look, naturally you are doing well to gain 10lbs in a year. 10lbs in a 2 month cycle therefore is good going. Yet only gaining 10lbs is seen as a dissapointment for many...

I don't believe 500mg test per week or 40mg of dbol should be considered minimums. 250mg test per week with dbol at 20mg per day can work wonders in a newbie/intermediate. However, I do recognise that the more bodybuilder-type-bodybuilder (if you know what I mean, i.e. huge and seasoned - i.e. completed many cycles) will need more...
 
I agree with madcow. For one dbol works very well in low doses for beginners. I did not use dbol until my sixth cycle. I stacked 15- 25mgs with 200mg a week of deca. because of my previous AS experience I was not expecting anything dramatic. It turned out to be my best cycle ever.

second, I would never start with a high dose of a drug you have never used. it is just not a smart thing to do. you could wake up in side affect hell in week two and that is no fun.

I would start with 15ed and work your way up, IF YOU NEED MORE. I doubt you will.


DBOL:bigkiss:ME
 
30 mg ED with some anti-E should give you good results. I know people who did that without losing their sex drive at all......
 
Thanks for all the replies men

Madcow you've got mail.
This is not my first cycle though. I have done two others:deca alone+deca/omna. Like I said this mini cycle is just to help me put on a little more weight before my spring one. I do want to tapper the cycle at the end, but should I also slowly build it up in the beginning or just start off at my highest dosage?? How does this look:

wk1-30mg
wk2-30mg
wk3-40mg
wk4-40mg
wk5-30mg
wk6-20mg
 
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Re: Thanks for all the replies men

tzan said:
I do want to tapper the cycle at the end, but should I also slowly build it up in the beginning or just start off at my highest dosage??
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Start with the highest dosage that you are going to use and taper towards the end. Make sure you have Anti-E's on hand

-Pfieff
 
Can someone please explain the benefits of tapering??

I know it was advocated many years ago but i really can not buy into the idea.

IMO tapering is not necessary!

but would be really interested in finding out what the reasoning behind it is as there are some really good reasons for not IMO.

Please this is not a flame as i am really interested in the argument for as maybe i have been too fixed in the argument against.

Wrongun!
 
props to madcow, there isn't an ideal dose for everyone. we can't standardize an AS for everbody. everyone says to do 40mg/day of d-bol and a gram of test/week. lets face it bros, some people make really good gains using less then half that amount. you also got to take into consideration who the person is and how long they have played the game for. you can't have some newbie taking a gram of test or 50mg/day of dbol. there body doesn't need that much to stimulate growth.


Bulldawg
 
Bump,
as i would really like some opinions on why you think the tapering is necessary?

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Bump,
as i would really like some opinions on why you think the tapering is necessary?

Wrongun!
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dbol is very potent and relatively short lived. Keep in mind that 30mg is a very significant dose (I would never recommend that a friend doing it for a 1st-3rd cycle, having never used it, start above 20mg).

When the drug is disconinued all at once - the properties disappear immediately. No more killer workouts, pumps, and quick loss of water all result. You are left with whatever else is in your system.

If stacking, it can take time before the other drugs can pick up to cover for it as dbol tends to dominate any other drug - this is why people get that week of zero progress or backsliding after droping the dbol from 30mg to 0.

If using alone - you are left with your low/no test levels which is even worse - the crash totally sucks. Strength can decrease rapidly as well as intensity which produces bad workouts, loss of gains (in addition to the water weight). Clomid just doesn't cover for this.

If dose is decreased slowly to reasonable levels, you will find that the body acclimates to natural training quite well (water will still go, which is good and you'll look better and healthier). In the case of a stack - no big hickup from dropping dbol all at once.

I would suggest not dropping it until the dose is at least as low as 15mg. I would advise lower.
 
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