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Someone Please Define "Homophobia" To Me.

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GladiusNova

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Why if a person doesn't "agree" with the homosexual lifestyle, they are considered "homophobic"? A "phobia" is something that you are scared of right? I am not scared of anybody, but I do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle. Why does that make me a "homophobic"? I was just discussing this with someone today after watching a video with Rob Halford (Judas Priest).
 
I'd like an explanation too.

I've seen the way claustrophobics and acrophobics behave. I doubt a "homophobic" person behaves the same way.

"AHHHHH OH NO IT'S A GAY PERSON GET HIM AWAY FROM ME AIIIEEEEE HELP!!!!!!!!!"

lol, please.

-Warik
 
Homophobia- Fear of sameness, monotony or of homosexuality or of becoming homosexual.

This is according to http://phobialist.com

Couple of others I found...

Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia- Fear of long words.
Defecaloesiophobia- Fear of painful bowels movements.
Zemmiphobia- Fear of the great mole rat.

Last but not least… the one i suffer from
Caligynephobia- Fear of beautiful women. :D
 
Warik said:
I'd like an explanation too.

I've seen the way claustrophobics and acrophobics behave. I doubt a "homophobic" person behaves the same way.

"AHHHHH OH NO IT'S A GAY PERSON GET HIM AWAY FROM ME AIIIEEEEE HELP!!!!!!!!!"

lol, please.

-Warik
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That's what the "I just disagree with your lifestyle" person appears to be saying on the inside.

It's easy to test...just see what happens if a gay person wants to hug them :D

Their inside sentiments may become a bit more visible then... :rolleyes:

love
helen
 
i'm no expert but a homophobe is different to an anti-gay person
for instance my parents are anti-gay - they disapprove and think its "wrong", "unnatural", "sick"
compared to a person at my work who makes jokes about people being gay, and when i suggested he look at www.manbeef.com (a satirical site about the consumption of human flesh) he refused repeatedly while making jokes about the name manbeef and how he doesn't want to visit any such site - he I would label homophobic. he doesn't want them anywhere near him - as though he can "catch" homosexuality by looking at a picture or associating with such a person. he feels the need to beat up on them to prove his own sexuality.
i think homophobes feel threatened by homosexuality. i dont really understand it myself.
i'm straight but i support a persons right to be gay if they want.
on the other hand i find the sydney gay & lesbian mardi gras a bit tasteless and unsuitable for prime time television
 
La0Tz3 said:
i'm no expert but a homophobe is different to an anti-gay person
for instance my parents are anti-gay - they disapprove and think its "wrong", "unnatural", "sick"
compared to a person at my work who makes jokes about people being gay, and when i suggested he look at www.manbeef.com (a satirical site about the consumption of human flesh) he refused repeatedly while making jokes about the name manbeef and how he doesn't want to visit any such site - he I would label homophobic. he doesn't want them anywhere near him - as though he can "catch" homosexuality by looking at a picture or associating with such a person. he feels the need to beat up on them to prove his own sexuality.
i think homophobes feel threatened by homosexuality. i dont really understand it myself.
i'm straight but i support a persons right to be gay if they want.
on the other hand i find the sydney gay & lesbian mardi gras a bit tasteless and unsuitable for prime time television
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With all due respect...I believe most people like your parents are scared even if they claim not to be. I'd like to see them hug a gay person before I would be confident they aren't...

love
helen
 
actually my parents are anti-hugging too so that wouldn't prove anything :)
i was going to say i'd expect only men to be homophobic against gays but i'm kinda homophobic against women because i hate the idea of perfectly good women being "wasted" like that .. LOL
i realize how fucked up that idea is :mix:
 
"With all due respect...I believe most people like your parents are scared even if they claim not to be. I'd like to see them hug a gay person before I would be confident they aren't... "....quote

Well...I have an openly gay cousin. Whenever we see each other (about once every 2 years) we hug and exchange greetings. I do not agree with his lifestyle, but I still love him and I am definately not "scared" of him. My parents and everyone else in my family is the same way. So what "phobia" I might have...I have yet to see.
 
HelenSL said:
It's easy to test...just see what happens if a gay person wants to hug them :D
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I don't want ugly women to hug me. Does that mean I'm afraid of ugly women?

-Warik
 
La0Tz3 said:
actually my parents are anti-hugging too so that wouldn't prove anything :)
i was going to say i'd expect only men to be homophobic against gays but i'm kinda homophobic against women because i hate the idea of perfectly good women being "wasted" like that .. LOL
i realize how fucked up that idea is :mix:
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Sounds like straightforward jealousy to me! :D

So they're huggaphobic too, huh? :cyclops: :cyclops: :cyclops: :cyclops:

Doesn't always correlate with homophobic but sometimes it appears to...

love
helen
 
Homophobia seems to not just be "fear of", but also lack of willingness to understand. Maybe not actually get into the details of how / why, but at least enough to accept the lifestyle and those people who follow it...
 
"Homophobia" pretty much means 2 things. Your scared of gay people, or you are scared of learning you have things in common with them and could be gay yourself. "Homosexist" means that you hate everything to do with homosexuality
 
I hate seeing Public displays of affection also, hearing about it is one thing I can deal with, seeing it is something I don't want to deal with. :sick:
 
I believe I have somewhat of a homophobia.

It has nothing to do with hatred. I would laugh along at a gay joke that was funny like anyone would, But yet i wouldn't be the one telling them. It's like i don't won't them to be around me, not because i don't want them to touch me or hug, etc etc. Just Don't like picking them out of a crowd you could say. If one were to talk to me once i would agree with everything they said, but after it ended i would avoid ever seeing or talking again. It's kinda hard to explain..... I'll call again when i've been enlightened.
 
from gladius:
Why if a person doesn't "agree" with the homosexual lifestyle, they are considered "homophobic"? A "phobia" is something that you are scared of right? I am not scared of anybody, but I do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle. Why does that make me a "homophobic"? I was just discussing this with someone today after watching a video with Rob Halford (Judas Priest).
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I notice that you put the word "agree" in quote marks. What does that mean? You speak of a "homosexual lifestyle." What is that?

A classic def of homophobia is from the US feminist Audre Lorde: "The fear of feelings of love for members of one's own sex and therefore the hatred of those feelings in others."

Gay people, in any case, do not require acceptance..."agreement." Although I agree that the term "homophobia" is overused, I think it suits people who, because they don't "approve" of same-gender sexual behavior, want to maintain laws punishing it and to withhold ordinary civil rights from people who identify as gay.

In other words, it's okay not to "agree" with sodomy but to make such a big deal out of it that you want to make it illegal and make its practicers second-class citizens indicates more than ordinary distaste. Why does anyone care where someone else puts his dick?

Why do you find it odd that such people would have a "fear" of homosexuality? What do you think motivates racism when someone says they think black people are okay but don't want to associate with them?

Anyway.....the term is increasingly being replaced by "heterosexism," which more clearly suggests the belief that heterosexuality is superior to its alternatives.
 
musclebrains said:
from gladius:

I notice that you put the word "agree" in quote marks. What does that mean? You speak of a "homosexual lifestyle." What is that?

A classic def of homophobia is from the US feminist Audre Lorde: "The fear of feelings of love for members of one's own sex and therefore the hatred of those feelings in others."

Gay people, in any case, do not require acceptance..."agreement." Although I agree that the term "homophobia" is overused, I think it suits people who, because they don't "approve" of same-gender sexual behavior, want to maintain laws punishing it and to withhold ordinary civil rights from people who identify as gay.

In other words, it's okay not to "agree" with sodomy but to make such a big deal out of it that you want to make it illegal and make its practicers second-class citizens indicates more than ordinary distaste. Why does anyone care where someone else puts his dick?

Why do you find it odd that such people would have a "fear" of homosexuality? What do you think motivates racism when someone says they think black people are okay but don't want to associate with them?

Anyway.....the term is increasingly being replaced by "heterosexism," which more clearly suggests the belief that heterosexuality is superior to its alternatives.
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I put the word "agree" in quotes because I don't necessarily "dislike" gay people...I could actually become friends with a gay person but like I said....I wouldn't "agree" with their lifestyle, but I would "learn" to accept it if the person turns out to be an OK person regardless of their sexual orientation. And I wouldn't find it odd that someone might have a "fear" of homosexuality, I'm just saying that I don't have a "fear" of it like the term suggests.
 
I'm not homophobic, I just hate queers because they spread disease.
 
Ok, I am going to clear up this "homophobia" stuff for all you. You see, "homophobia" is not about a FEAR of gay people at all. There is no fear involved at all. Simply jealousy and the utter feeling of self defeat some people have at knowing that they will never:

Understand why black shoes worn along with brown belts are a no-no.

Understand the difference between 43 brands of imported vodka.

Understand the immense importance of good lighting.

Experience the have "been there, done that".

Be the only type of male who gets to say "fabulous".

Skillfully and verbally draw and quarter most people.

Have hairstyle and fashion taste is light years ahead of everyone else's.

Have already read the book, seen the movie, done the musical.


Be the only one at your high school reunion who looks a lot better
than you did in high school.


Know there's a married guy somewhere who is terrified of you.


Know how to make an entrance.


Know when to make an exit.


Know when to play dumb and it is not 24/7.

Ever have to hear your mother complain about your wife.

Shave something other than your face.


Actually lived out some of your fantasies.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:
Be the only type of male who gets to say "fabulous".
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I can't comment on all you said but I can tell you from experience that two of the Christian men I listen to on the radio, who are happily married, say "fabulous" regularly.

That's not about sexual orientation, that's about being able to appreciate what in life is 'fabulous'!! :)

Good luck with finding something which truly is an advantage that only gay people have.

I'm not saying anything against them but when you say "we are the only ones who..." then I'm gonna take a pretty close look at what you are claiming...

love
helen
 
Helen, I think Mr. Plower was engaging in satire.

Gladius, I agree. There are probably lots of reasons people are "uncomfortable" with gay people. It's an argument for using the newer term "heterosexism." I'm glad to read that you could take a step beyond your comfort zone. I used to run groups in which black and white men, gay men and straight men, encountered one another. All it usually takes is a small step to understand the other person's situation to gain some respect but we do usually find fear underlies the refusal to take an empathetic step.

Plifter, go take a reading comprehension class. Gay people do not spread any more disease than straight people. Do we really need to direct you to the WHO's stats on AIDS again?

Anal, your list convinces me you are a bottom. Roll over.
 
I swear I don't have Plifterphobia (you know, fear of small cocks) I just hate Plifter because he spreads stupidity. Go buy yourself another skirt.

Helen, you sound like a true fag hag. Anyone you hang around with attributes such as the above are gay. Get over it. Christians are the worst. Most people use Christainity as a way to have an elaborate door on their closet.

Musclebrains, I assure you I am all top. I have never been a bottom in my life. That appeals to me zero.
 
Anal:

The fact that you are AFRAID of bottoming does not mean you aren't a bottom. It means you have bustedsphincterophobia. I'll be gentle. You'll thank me three days later at the same time you come by and scratch on my window to beg for seconds.
 
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I just met the most wonderful straight man. He is handsome, intense, sucessful, witty and fictional. I guess that sort of explains everything.
 
absolute hardgainer said:
GladiusNova:

Out of curiousity, what was the video with Rob Halford about?

He quit JP ages ago to do his own thing.

hardgainer (old time JP fan)
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Actually...it was him performing some song live with that band Sum 41 on MTV....not an actual video.
 
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