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So angry I could have killed him

Elvis P.

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Today my fiance and I went to the mall to pick up her wedding band from the jewelers this afternoon. While walking to the store this one black kid starts making comments to my fiance like " hey baby, I would love to fuck you" "Can I get with that". I was so fucking shocked that someone would do this, but I looked at the guy and and gave him a shut the fuck up look and he says, " boy you better watch it, I'll knock you out. Now there is no fucking way this kid could kick my ass but he has his other 2 friends straight from the ghetto with him backing him up. I was so angry, but all i could think about was not to get into a fight and get my fiance hurt or myself. I swear, if i had this kid alone right now i think i could strangle him to death. Did i handle the situation right, or is there something else i should have done?
 
*WONDERING WHY YOU DIDNT RIP HIS HEAD OFF AND SPLASH BLOOD ON HIS TWO FRIENDS*


DUDE, HAVE YOU NO NUTS!!! 2 FRIENDS OR NOT, ITS THE PRINCIPLE OF THE MATTER.


KAYNE
 
You did good. Think of it like this, if you had fought, chances are you would be in jail for assault.

It is all about the jealousy. Dey iz tryin to hold you down brutha. White Power. Whiter Power.
 
relax your gettin married...I use to flip out and fight anyone who disrespected my girl of 3 and a half years...guess what it was sexy for a while but overtime she said it just got tiresome and left.

you got the girl, your the winner...just smile and go about your day
 
FUCK THAT, I DONT CARE IF THEY WERE BLACK, BLUE, YELLOW, RED, ORANGE OR FUCKING PINK. YOU SHOULD HAVE KILLED THE LITTLE PRICK. MOST LIKELY HE WOULD HAVE "TRIED" TO HIT YOU FIRST. THEN YOU ARE JUST PROTECTING YOUR FIANCE AND YOUR PERSON.


KAYNE
 
Fuck them... don't worry about it.. I would have just laughed at them for their obvious stupidity, jealously and lack of intelligence...
 
HI

NOONE IS TALKING ABOUT FLIPPING OUT AND JUST CAUSING A FIGHT. HOWEVER, WITH THIS BLATANT EXPRESSION OF DISRESPECT STRAIGHT TO HIS FACE BY THE LITTLE GHETTO BITCH, HE SHOULD HAVE KILLED THE KID.


KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:
HI

NOONE IS TALKING ABOUT FLIPPING OUT AND JUST CAUSING A FIGHT. HOWEVER, WITH THIS BLATANT EXPRESSION OF DISRESPECT STRAIGHT TO HIS FACE BY THE LITTLE GHETTO BITCH, HE SHOULD HAVE KILLED THE KID.


KAYNE

Bro,

Trust me I understand...once I guy almost ran her off the road, I made her follow him and waited till he parked, then I draged him over and made him say sorry.

The story showed complete disrespect, but if these wanne be thugs pull out guns then its not worth it for a little respect...this man has got a family in front of him...

then again I would probley still lose it
 
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Thanks for the remarks. kayne, you have no idea how bad I want and wanted to just eliminate this guy. His friends wernt even saying shit, just him. Its funny how tough some people get when in numbers, but on their own they would NEVER have done anything like that.
 
What goes around, comes around!

Don't let it bother you anymore. Don't justify his actions by thiking about it. But, if you see him again alone, crack him one!!!

Kama will get him!
 
I would have had to say something. I would have told him to shut the fuck up or bring it. If he came at me, I would have taken him out and sodomized him in front of his friends then I would have eaten them all.


Umm, wait that's what I would have done if I were Mike Tyson.


That's actually a tough situation. It would have depended on how his friends looked. I mean if it looked like they were packing or something. I hope I'm never put in a situation like that.
 
I HOPE SOME OF YOU ON THIS THREAD DONT TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU LET YOURSELVES GET WALKED ON!!!


KAYNE
 
the obvious answer here is "shoot the fiance"

you always want to have the element of surprise in your favor. this way you show that you are in control and will not allow this young man to sleep with her or entertain thoughts of it.
it also shows that you aren't afraid to use violence.
they won't mess with you.
stabbing her would work too.
a solid beating may or may not be okay, since it is borderline weird and pussying out if you really look at it the right way.
 
I'll one-up happy scrappy and advise you to slit your own throat, then shake your head wildy back and forth violently with your tongue hangin out in true Exorcists fashion while spraying blood all over the room.
 
you're right his friends might have hurt you, but i would have put that son of a bitch in a pine box if he ever made such rude comments, they better be more worried about getting me hands off his throat and allowing him to breath then weather or not to hit me.
 
HappyScrappy said:
the obvious answer here is "shoot the fiance"

you always want to have the element of surprise in your favor. this way you show that you are in control and will not allow this young man to sleep with her or entertain thoughts of it.
it also shows that you aren't afraid to use violence.
they won't mess with you.
stabbing her would work too.
a solid beating may or may not be okay, since it is borderline weird and pussying out if you really look at it the right way.

The "Keyser Soze" approach. Impressive.
 
There's some shit you can't walk away from.

Assault? Let's look at the facts.

Party A: 3 thugs who are probably dressed as such.

Party B: A man and his fiancee entering a jewelry store to buy a wedding band.

I can see it now...

"yeah yo' honor! dat nigga was talkin' shit to me and ma boyzz... then he be swingin' at us. people ain't safe no mo!"

Besides, chances are they would have attacked you first. It would have been self-defense and I'm sure another passer-by would have come to your aid in a 3 on 1. I sure would have - especially if I saw the events that led up to the confrontation.

Then again, you walked away without a scratch on you and you still know without a doubt that you are a better human being than the three of them are collectively. Think about it: You know for a fact that you are better than them. They have proven to you that they are inferior. Do you let a cockroach crawling around bother you? No - it's inferior.

Think about them as the roaches that crawled into the wall. Yeah, they got away today, but eventually, someone's going to step on them.

-Warik
 
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:devil:
Elvis, you are a punk. Thanks, it's guys like you letting shit like this happen over and over. You should have sucked their cocks while you were at it. Your girlfriend should have second thoughts about marrying you because your not fit to protect her. BTW did I mention you are a disgrace to your race?:mad:

They threatened both of you and you had every right to defend yourself! This is going to eat you up for a long time, don't let it happen again.
 
THERE WERE 3 OF THEM? THAT'S A TOUGH FIGHT TO WIN UNLESS YOU ARE A FUCKING MACHINE. WORSE STILL IF THEY HAD GUNS OR KNIVES OR SOMETHING.

SO, LET ME WORK UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU DID *NOT* FEEL THAT THIS WAS A FIGHT YOU WOULD WIN, I.E. YOU FELT YOU'D GET YOUR ASS KICKED.

YOU SHOULD HAVE FUCKING LAUGHED AT THEM.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN NO ANGER.
 
exactly 2 ton

why is everyone superman on here...the situation need no violence, fighting is not a part of reg. society.

3 punk ass bitches call you out, smile...kiss your hot GF and live your life...

tough guy sit gone wrong

you decide to fight, two of them take you down and inflict knife wounds...last one gabs your girl and hurts her...you spend the night in the ER with your GF instead of typing on a chat board.
 
HighIntensity said:
exactly 2 ton

why is everyone superman on here...the situation need no violence, fighting is not a part of reg. society.

3 punk ass bitches call you out, smile...kiss your hot GF and live your life...

tough guy sit gone wrong

you decide to fight, two of them take you down and inflict knife wounds...last one gabs your girl and hurts her...you spend the night in the ER with your GF instead of typing on a chat board.

:devil: You don't carry a knife?
 
HighIntensity said:


you decide to fight, two of them take you down and inflict knife wounds...last one gabs your girl and hurts her...you spend the night in the ER with your GF instead of typing on a chat board.


:devil: Events like this strengthen relationships!
 
It basicall comes down to what kind of position you were in if it was just some punk trying to be tough in front of his friend by hitting on a taken gal then laugh and just pity them cause thay are not worth hate. Hate is an emotion I use for people I want to destroy.

I will tell a story about my gf, she never really cries but on day she came over and was crying, basically four thugs in a car were harassing her and tryed to force her to get in the car to her, Lets just say the said some foul shit. I flipped out and she said they were still waiting for hewr outside as she pointed to a grenn honda with tinted windows... These guys weere still calling out foul shit, so I bugged out. I told her to go upstairs and not to open the doors. I went into my room and got a automatic baton, a taser and a some pepper spray. I went outside and these guy were still yelling I alk up smash in the window and sprayed everyone inside while electricuting the driver. I proceeded to chase this car as it drove away, whil smashing in the back trunk and light with the atoumatic baton. I did this because her life was put on the line, they tried to physically force her into the car and she ran, she was in danger. If it was just a verbal insult especially ina public place were nothing is going to happen then don't worry about it....
 
supernav said:
Smart move. A smart strong man walks away from it.

As a former cop, i can tell you

-= nav =-

:devil:
So if you walk, they wont follow? As a former cop you can tell us who has the best donuts! Elvis is still a pussy.
 
Bigsatan13 said:


:devil:
So if you walk, they wont follow? As a former cop you can tell us who has the best donuts! Elvis is still a pussy.

YOUR MENTALITY IS BETTER SUITED TO A SCHOOLYARD IN 1952, NOT A MALL IN 2002.

LET'S SAY YOU ATTACK THEM (THERE ARE THREE OF THEM). AT LEAST ONE OF THEM HAS A GUN.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

OR, THEY ALL HAVE KNIVES. THERE ARE THREE OF THEM.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

ANSWER THAT, PLEASE, BEFORE ADVOCATING ANY MORE VIOLENCE. I'M SORRY, YOU DO NOT MESS WITH BLACK DUDES IN FRONT OF THEIR FRIENDS IN A MALL UNLESS YOU ARE VERY, VERY SURE NO ONE IS PACKING. NOT TO BE RACIST, BUT THERE'S A REASON THAT 50% OF BLACK MEN UNDER 30 (OR WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS) HAVE BEEN OR ARE IN PRISON.
 
2 ton hoss said:


YOUR MENTALITY IS BETTER SUITED TO A SCHOOLYARD IN 1952, NOT A MALL IN 2002.

LET'S SAY YOU ATTACK THEM (THERE ARE THREE OF THEM). AT LEAST ONE OF THEM HAS A GUN.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

OR, THEY ALL HAVE KNIVES. THERE ARE THREE OF THEM.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

ANSWER THAT, PLEASE, BEFORE ADVOCATING ANY MORE VIOLENCE. I'M SORRY, YOU DO NOT MESS WITH BLACK DUDES IN FRONT OF THEIR FRIENDS IN A MALL UNLESS YOU ARE VERY, VERY SURE NO ONE IS PACKING. NOT TO BE RACIST, BUT THERE'S A REASON THAT 50% OF BLACK MEN UNDER 30 (OR WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS) HAVE BEEN OR ARE IN PRISON.


:devil:

Hoss, your a scumbag who would turn on his own family. I wouldn't expect you to do anything but piss your pants.
 
Bigsatan13 said:



:devil:

Hoss, your a scumbag who would turn on his own family. I wouldn't expect you to do anything but piss your pants.

APPARENTLY YOU DO NOT FEEL THE NEED TO GIVE A REAL REPLY TO THE QUESTIONS I ASKED.

I WILL TAKE THAT AS ADMISSION THAT YOU HAVE NO REPLY, AND HAD PERHAPS NOT CONSIDERED THE QUESTIONS THAT I POSED TO YOU.

THANKS FOR TRYING THOUGH, BIG GUY.
 
it is always better to avoid fighting if you can... of course i say that now because it wasn't me and i wasn't in that situation... i am sure however that she would prefer you not to fight... so out of respect to her it was prolly the right thing to do.
 
Bigsatan13 said:
:devil:
Elvis, you are a punk. Thanks, it's guys like you letting shit like this happen over and over. You should have sucked their cocks while you were at it. Your girlfriend should have second thoughts about marrying you because your not fit to protect her. BTW did I mention you are a disgrace to your race?:mad:

They threatened both of you and you had every right to defend yourself! This is going to eat you up for a long time, don't let it happen again.

I'm sorry but i'm with BS on this one. One thing that you always have to do is protect your woman's honor. Some fucker and his buddies are taunting you causing you to lose face. I say fuck that. If there aren't weapons, you hit that fucker in the throat and drop him. Now, you're only dealing with two guys.

Problem is, everyone's a fucking pussy using the excuse, "oh, they got a gun or knife."

If it were me, i'd get in that motherfuckers face and try to let him hit me first. Being that I am expecting something, I'd be more apt to avoid the first blow. THen, i'd try and drop the guy with a good hit, either to the temple or the throat. Likely, the two other pussies will turn white and run away like the true cowards they are. You're fiance will respect you and know that she has someone who will protect her, regardless of your personal safety.

Evis, you are a pussy. To your fiance, good luck. Better get a big dog.
 
Boach said:
I'm sorry but i'm with BS on this one. One thing that you always have to do is protect your woman's honor.
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T? BESIDES A BLOW TO YOUR EGO, I MEAN.

Some fucker and his buddies are taunting you causing you to lose face. I say fuck that. If there aren't weapons, you hit that fucker in the throat and drop him. Now, you're only dealing with two guys.
HAHA!! IT IS SO EASY! I WONDER WHY THEY DON'T TEACH MORE PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

Problem is, everyone's a fucking pussy using the excuse, "oh, they got a gun or knife."
I'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEONE HAS PULLED A GUN.

BELIEVE ME, IT MAKES YOU THINK JUST WHY YOU ARE RISKING YOUR LIFE TO ASSUAGE YOUR THIRSTY EGO. GO LOOK THAT WORD UP.

I HAVE BEEN IN THE SITUATION I DESCRIBE. I WAS DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBE (GETTING IN THE GUY'S FACE, WAITING FOR HIM TO MAKE A MOVE).

If it were me, i'd get in that motherfuckers face and try to let him hit me first.
WHAT HAPPENS IF HE DROPS YOU WITH A THROAT SHOT JUST LIKE YOU ADVOCATED TO DO TO HIM?

Being that I am expecting something, I'd be more apt to avoid the first blow.
THERE'S 3 OF THEM. WHAT IF ONE GETS YOU FROM BEHIND?

THen, i'd try and drop the guy with a good hit, either to the temple or the throat. Likely, the two other pussies will turn white and run away like the true cowards they are. You're fiance will respect you and know that she has someone who will protect her, regardless of your personal safety.
ANY WOMAN WHO RESPECTS ME MORE BECAUSE I DID A DAMN FOOL THING TO FEED OUR EGOS IS NOT WORTHY OF MY RESPECT. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF SOMEONE SCORES SOME EGO POINTS OFF ME. LET THEM. I'LL JUST LAUGH AT THEIR PANSY ASSES AND GO HOME AND NEVER REMEMBER IT AGAIN.
 
WTF is up with some people. NO, I don't want to fight a guy with a god damn concealed Glock in his belt.
And yes, I think you did the right thing (i.e not getting killed) ElvisP!
 
Boach said:
I'd rather go down fighting. A real man can't sit there and take that shit. What ever happened to chivalry?
AHH, CHIVALRY. THE ACT OF DOING DAMN STUPID THINGS TO IMPRESS WOMEN. I'M GLAD IT'S DEAD. I DON'T DATE BITCHES WITH 2 TON EGOS.
 
TieRex said:
WTF is up with some people. NO, I don't want to fight a guy with a god damn concealed Glock in his belt.
And yes, I think you did the right thing (i.e not getting killed) ElvisP!

THEY PLAY OUT IMAGINARY DREAM SEQUENCES IN THEIR HEAD, IN WHICH NO ONE EVER HAS A GUN, NO ONE IS EVER BIGGER THAN THEY, THEY ARE NEVER OUTNUMBERED (BECAUSE THEY DROP THE FIRST TWO GUYS WITH QUICK THROAT CRUSHERS), AND THEY ALWAYS COME OUT ON TOP.

THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM...
 
Hoss,

Often times, I agree with you. You are very sensible man and I respect you. However, I simply don't agree.

Sure, there are many factors that could put me in a bad situation. Hell, going 3 on 1 is a bad situation but a man's job is to protect a woman's honor. If I were alone, I'd leave it be but they're calling names at my fiance.

Most times, people in these situations find strength (bravery) in numbers and all it takes is some real courage to break up the situation. I've been down this road, myself. MOST times, if you take out the leader, the rest will simply give up.

Basically, all you can do is send your girl off somewhere safe (jewelry store), try to get them to make a first move (or not), and pray to god you can take down one of them with a real nice hit. IF not, you get a pounding.

You also run a risk of getting shot or stabbed, but considering you're in public, you're more than likely, quite safe. Now, if this is a dark alley, I'm grabbing my girl and we're hauling ass.

I'm more than willing to take a severe beating for a girl I love.
 
2 ton hoss said:


THEY PLAY OUT IMAGINARY DREAM SEQUENCES IN THEIR HEAD, IN WHICH NO ONE EVER HAS A GUN, NO ONE IS EVER BIGGER THAN THEY, THEY ARE NEVER OUTNUMBERED (BECAUSE THEY DROP THE FIRST TWO GUYS WITH QUICK THROAT CRUSHERS), AND THEY ALWAYS COME OUT ON TOP.

THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM...

I don't know where you come from but in reality, the common street thug can't take too much abuse. It ain't like the movies--it only takes a couple of hits for someone to go down. True, the same goes for yourself but again, it's all luck unless you're a skilled fighter.
 
Boach said:
oss,

Often times, I agree with you. You are very sensible man and I respect you. However, I simply don't agree.

Sure, there are many factors that could put me in a bad situation. Hell, going 3 on 1 is a bad situation but a man's job is to protect a woman's honor. If I were alone, I'd leave it be but they're calling names at my fiance.
WHY DOES IT MATTER IF THEY ARE CALLING HER NAMES?

Most times, people in these situations find strength (bravery) in numbers and all it takes is some real courage to break up the situation. I've been down this road, myself. MOST times, if you take out the leader, the rest will simply give up.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE ON DOING THIS?

Basically, all you can do is send your girl off somewhere safe (jewelry store), try to get them to make a first move (or not), and pray to god you can take down one of them with a real nice hit. IF not, you get a pounding.

You also run a risk of getting shot or stabbed, but considering you're in public, you're more than likely, quite safe. Now, if this is a dark alley, I'm grabbing my girl and we're hauling ass.

I'm more than willing to take a severe beating for a girl I love.

WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO TAKE A SEVERE BEATING FOR HER? WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR HER THAT IS BENEFICIAL, BY TAKING THAT BEATING? IS THERE SOMETHING CRUCIAL I AM MISSING BESIDES GIVING HER EGO POINTS?
 
Those fuckers are being abusive to my fiance in front of me. They're disrespecting me and a person I love. This isn't about her ego. This is about her honor and mine.

I'm assuming I won't get beaten. I'm accepting it as a risk but i'm shooting to win. I'm not talking about first date shit here, either. This is the person who i'm supposed to marry!

I don't know about you, but I want my woman to know that if push comes to shove, she can depend on me to defend her and protect her. Deep down, that's what women really look for--security.
 
Boach said:
Those fuckers are being abusive to my fiance in front of me. They're disrespecting me and a person I love. This isn't about her ego. This is about her honor and mine.
WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU MORE HONORABLE TO STRIKE OUT WHEN YOU ARE HARRASSED? WHAT IS "HONOR" ANYWAY?

I'm assuming I won't get beaten. I'm accepting it as a risk but i'm shooting to win. I'm not talking about first date shit here, either. This is the person who i'm supposed to marry!
YOU MAY BE BIG, AND YOU MAY BE STRONG, AND YOU MAY KNOW 18 MARTIAL ARTS... BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THERE IS SOME FUCKING 160 POUND KID WITH A RUSTY PISTOL AND THAT IS ALL IT TAKES.

I don't know about you, but I want my woman to know that if push comes to shove, she can depend on me to defend her and protect her. Deep down, that's what women really look for--security.
SOME GUYS ARE CALLING HER NAMES. IT'S A VERY PUBLIC PLACE AND VERY VERY UNLIKELY THEY WILL ASSAULT THE TWO OF YOU. HOW DOES ATTACKING THEM DEFEND HER? HOW DOES IT PROTECT HER? AGAIN, DOES IT DO ANYTHING BUT GIVE YOU BOTH EGO POINTS? IF SO, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT.
 
2 ton hoss said:

WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU MORE HONORABLE TO STRIKE OUT WHEN YOU ARE HARRASSED? WHAT IS "HONOR" ANYWAY?


YOU MAY BE BIG, AND YOU MAY BE STRONG, AND YOU MAY KNOW 18 MARTIAL ARTS... BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THERE IS SOME FUCKING 160 POUND KID WITH A RUSTY PISTOL AND THAT IS ALL IT TAKES.


SOME GUYS ARE CALLING HER NAMES. IT'S A VERY PUBLIC PLACE AND VERY VERY UNLIKELY THEY WILL ASSAULT THE TWO OF YOU. HOW DOES ATTACKING THEM DEFEND HER? HOW DOES IT PROTECT HER? AGAIN, DOES IT DO ANYTHING BUT GIVE YOU BOTH EGO POINTS? IF SO, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT.

Ok, you keep using ego but that's totally not it. I'm actually the one who's 160lbs. (170 actually)!!!

Think of it this way, what if she was alone? It would really shake her up, even if that's as far as it went. Either way, it's degrading.

Honor means a lot of things to many people. To me it means respect that is earned, doing the right thing (according to my morals), and protecting the people I love at all costs.

Now, even if my girl doesn't want me to fight, not fighting shows this girl that I have weakness. It also chips away at my own pride. Now, maybe pride is sinful but that is what I am. It's not about sense. It's not for the thinking man to figure out. It's just something that I have to do in my mind. If I love someone, you'd better not bother them if I think i have even a 1% chance of fucking you up.

I guess it's because I put so much more value on the people I love compared to me. Mind you, i'd do this for my mother, siblings, etc.

It's not an ego thing...Believe me.
 
Boach said:
Ok, you keep using ego but that's totally not it. I'm actually the one who's 160lbs. (170 actually)!!!

Think of it this way, what if she was alone? It would really shake her up, even if that's as far as it went. Either way, it's degrading.

Honor means a lot of things to many people. To me it means respect that is earned, doing the right thing (according to my morals), and protecting the people I love at all costs.
WHY IS IT DEGRADING UNLESS YOU FEEL IT IS DEGRADING? WHY SHOULD YOU FEEL IT IS DEGRADING?

DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE SHOULD RESPECT YOU MORE FOR ATTACKING PEOPLE WHO CALL NAMES AND MAKE RUDE COMMENTS? IS THAT HOW THE WORLD WORKS IN YOUR VIEW?

Now, even if my girl doesn't want me to fight, not fighting shows this girl that I have weakness. It also chips away at my own pride. Now, maybe pride is sinful but that is what I am. It's not about sense. It's not for the thinking man to figure out. It's just something that I have to do in my mind. If I love someone, you'd better not bother them if I think i have even a 1% chance of fucking you up.
SHE KNOWS YOU HAVE WEAKNESS. EVERYONE HAS WEAKNESS, AND IF SHE LOVES YOU, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT SHE KNOWS YOURS.

SO YOU ADMIT PRIDE IS IN SOME CASES WRONG BUT YOU'D ACT ON IT ANYWAY? OF COURSE IT'S FOR THE THINKING MAN TO THINK ABOUT. EVERYONE NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE LOGICAL REASONS FOR DOING THEM.

I guess it's because I put so much more value on the people I love compared to me. Mind you, i'd do this for my mother, siblings, etc.

It's not an ego thing...Believe me.
YOU HAVE NOT CONVINCED ME AT ALL THAT IT IS NOT AN EGO THING. YOU HAVE USED WORDS LIKE 'PRIDE' AND 'DEGRADING' AND 'WEAKNESS' WHICH ARE HALLMARKS OF THE MAN THINKING ABOUT HIS EGO.

IT IS AN EGO THING. YOU HAVE JUST NOT ADMITTED IT TO YOURSELF YET.
 
2 ton hoss said:

WHY IS IT DEGRADING UNLESS YOU FEEL IT IS DEGRADING? WHY SHOULD YOU FEEL IT IS DEGRADING?

*you know very well that you can't control how you feel about things. emotions are just a part of life that can't be controlled (largely).

DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE SHOULD RESPECT YOU MORE FOR ATTACKING PEOPLE WHO CALL NAMES AND MAKE RUDE COMMENTS? IS THAT HOW THE WORLD WORKS IN YOUR VIEW?

Well, I don't think people should respect anyone for using violence but some people definitely need fear instilled in their hearts for behaving like that. Verbally attacking people minding their own business creates fear in innocent people and leads to all sorts of problems.

SHE KNOWS YOU HAVE WEAKNESS. EVERYONE HAS WEAKNESS, AND IF SHE LOVES YOU, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT SHE KNOWS YOURS.

Yes, she definitely knows I have weaknesses and we all do but it's but she'll know one of my weaknesses aren't a lack of devotion to protect her.

SO YOU ADMIT PRIDE IS IN SOME CASES WRONG BUT YOU'D ACT ON IT ANYWAY? OF COURSE IT'S FOR THE THINKING MAN TO THINK ABOUT. EVERYONE NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE LOGICAL REASONS FOR DOING THEM.

I do a lot of things that are wrong. I'm human, remember? People do many things that they can't explain or don't think about. My logic has been decided long ago. If someone threatens my girl or her honor like that, I can't help but become extremely agitated and feel a need to make sure those people think twice next time.

YOU HAVE NOT CONVINCED ME AT ALL THAT IT IS NOT AN EGO THING. YOU HAVE USED WORDS LIKE 'PRIDE' AND 'DEGRADING' AND 'WEAKNESS' WHICH ARE HALLMARKS OF THE MAN THINKING ABOUT HIS EGO.

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm defending my view. You can try and feed me your bullshit on how it's my ego but only I can definitely say it's not. Believe me or not, i don't care.

IT IS AN EGO THING. YOU HAVE JUST NOT ADMITTED IT TO YOURSELF YET.

When arguing, refrain from telling ME what I am thinking.
 
*you know very well that you can't control how you feel about things. emotions are just a part of life that can't be controlled (largely).
THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD ACT ON THEM IF THEY ARE ILLOGICAL AND LEAD TO NOTHING GOOD EXCEPT MORE EGO.
Well, I don't think people should respect anyone for using violence but some people definitely need fear instilled in their hearts for behaving like that. Verbally attacking people minding their own business creates fear in innocent people and leads to all sorts of problems.
SO? VERBALLY ATTACK THEM BACK. GET SOME BUDDIES AND GO TAUNT THEM. NO NEED TO TAKE ON THREE OF THEM JUST TO SHOW THEM A LESSON. YOU'RE 160 POUNDS? YOU BETTER BE DAMN GOOD AT THE MARTIAL ARTS.


Yes, she definitely knows I have weaknesses and we all do but it's but she'll know one of my weaknesses aren't a lack of devotion to protect her.
WRONG. SHE WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE IMPULSIVE AND WOULD RISK YOUR LIFE FOR THE STUPIDEST THING. UNLESS YOU ARE MARRYING A WOMAN AS IRRATIONAL AS YOU ARE.

I do a lot of things that are wrong. I'm human, remember? People do many things that they can't explain or don't think about. My logic has been decided long ago. If someone threatens my girl or her honor like that, I can't help but become extremely agitated and feel a need to make sure those people think twice next time.
WRONG. YOU CAN HELP ACTING ON IT. SO DO NOT PRETEND THAT YOU CAN NOT. ANYWAY, THE ARGUMENT SHOULD REALLY CEASE HERE. IF YOU ADMIT YOU WOULD DO THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU PROUD TO DO SO, THEN I BELIEVE I HAVE WON.

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm defending my view. You can try and feed me your bullshit on how it's my ego but only I can definitely say it's not. Believe me or not, i don't care.
WHY DO YOU DENY IT? GO RE-READ YOUR OTHER POST. "PRIDE" "WEAKNESS" AND "DEGRADING" ARE THE REASONS YOU GAVE.

PRIDE - THIS IS WHAT EGO IS BASED ON
NOT WANTING TO SHOW WEAKNESS - IF YOU DID SHOW WEAKNESS, YOUR EGO WOULD BE HURT
DEGRADING - THIS IS PURE EGO. SOMETHING LIKE NAME CALLING IS ONLY 'DEGRADING' IF YOU LET IT BE.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?

When arguing, refrain from telling ME what I am thinking.
I WILL NOT REFRAIN. THAT IS BECAUSE I AM RIGHT, AND YOUR THINKING IS CLOUDED BY EMOTIONAL THOUGHTS OF WEAKNESS AND PRIDE - THOUGHTS THAT STEM FROM EGO. A PSYCHIATRIST (SOMEONE WHO COLDLY ANALYZES EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS) CAN OFTEN TELL THE ROOT CAUSES OF HIS SUBJECTS' THOUGHTS. THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE WAY I CAN TELL THE ROOT CAUSE OF YOURS, IN THIS INSTANCE.
 
This isn't a contest so you can't win.

Listen, it's way more than just degradation. The shit Elvis is talking about causes fear. It's a form of intimidation. They're making my girl feel afraid and it's insulting. You can't say, "hey, just stop being insulted by that." That's not how it works.

I would verbally attack them back, followed up by an invitation to come and back up their bravado. Going back to get buddies is unrealistic. First of all, i'm letting them talk shit and it looks like they are scaring me. Secondly, they might be gone by the time i get the cavalry.

I really have no idea how good a fighter I am. I've been in a few and I think I can hold my own, that isn't in debate here--doesn't matter if I weigh 160 or 360.

Impulsive to me sounds like they said something minor in passing and I just charge like a wild bull. The way it sounds by the story, the girl and the guy are walking by a group of assholes talking LOTS of shit in a very obvious and threatening manner.

Most girls respect a man who stands up for them and protects them. If you can find a girl who likes cowards, good for you. I hope you never get drafted.

Sure I don't HAVE to act on these feelings but it's engrained in my mind adn it's part of my morals. I am there to protect the person I love, period.

You really like the word "ego." I suggest you look it up. Your definiton seems to be a bit cloudy and distorted. Just because you say you're right doesn't mean you are. You keep falling back on this "ego" arguement but I simply do not agree. If I wanted to prove my ego, i'd do other things like bulk up to 250 lbs and puff my chest out and while flexing all over. I am a very modest person. I don't have anything to be arrogant or egotistical about. It's all about pride and honor. Do not cause my loved ones to feel fear. If I can do something about it, I will. If i fail, then I can at least say I tried.

In my mind, you show true cowardice. I feel sorry for your family if someone should threaten them. Well, at least you're not showing you have a big ego!
 
2 ton hoss said:


YOUR MENTALITY IS BETTER SUITED TO A SCHOOLYARD IN 1952, NOT A MALL IN 2002.

Ok-even though neither one of us can have first hand knowledge of a 1952 schoolyard, I will place myself in the mall 2002. Funny, I don't see any gang bangers or thugs standing around the mall today.


LET'S SAY YOU ATTACK THEM (THERE ARE THREE OF THEM). AT LEAST ONE OF THEM HAS A GUN.

Does he have the heart to pull the trigger? Is there a round in the chamber? What if it jams? What if it blows up in his face? What if he can't shoot straight? What if I slap the gun ought of his hand? Remember if he was that bad, he wouldn't be hanging out in the mall.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

OR, THEY ALL HAVE KNIVES. THERE ARE THREE OF THEM.

I've been carrying a knife 24\7 since I was 15. I only have a problem with the asshole who made the comments. Truthfully, he would have gotten stabbed after the first nasty comment because it was 3 against one. If I had to stab and slab my way out of there so be it. Why is everybody afraid of blacks or are you saying 3 white guys wouldn't disrespect you like that?

WHAT DO YOU DO?

ANSWER THAT, PLEASE, BEFORE ADVOCATING ANY MORE VIOLENCE. I'M SORRY, YOU DO NOT MESS WITH BLACK DUDES IN FRONT OF THEIR FRIENDS IN A MALL UNLESS YOU ARE VERY, VERY SURE NO ONE IS PACKING. NOT TO BE RACIST, BUT THERE'S A REASON THAT 50% OF BLACK MEN UNDER 30 (OR WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS) HAVE BEEN OR ARE IN PRISON.
:devil:
 
WELL I MUST GO RETURN A VIDEO AND GET SOME GROCERIES.

EGO IS NOT ABOUT HOW YOU LOOK - IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL. I THINK WE BOTH KNOW THAT LITTLE GUYS CAN HAVE HUGE EGOS.

AM I A COWARD? DOUBTFUL... I'VE PROBABLY (DUE TO MY OWN STUPIDITY) BEEN IN MORE FIGHTS THAN YOU'LL EVER SEE, AND WON A GOOD PORTION.

I NOW REALIZE THAT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WORTH FIGHTING FOR (AND RISKING DEATH - I DID HAVE A GUN PULLED ON ME), AND THERE ARE SITUATIONS NOT WORTH IT.

THIS IS ONE THAT IS NOT WORTH IT.

IF THEY ATTACKED HER PHYSICALLY, THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT. WORDS ARE NOTHING.

SO NO, I AM NOT A COWARD. I KNOW HOW TO PICK AND CHOOSE MY BATTLES - WISELY.

I'M STILL WAITING FOR BIGSATAN'S REPLY TO MY QUESTIONS.
 
Lord_Suston said:
It basicall comes down to what kind of position you were in if it was just some punk trying to be tough in front of his friend by hitting on a taken gal then laugh and just pity them cause thay are not worth hate. Hate is an emotion I use for people I want to destroy.

I will tell a story about my gf, she never really cries but on day she came over and was crying, basically four thugs in a car were harassing her and tryed to force her to get in the car to her, Lets just say the said some foul shit. I flipped out and she said they were still waiting for hewr outside as she pointed to a grenn honda with tinted windows... These guys weere still calling out foul shit, so I bugged out. I told her to go upstairs and not to open the doors. I went into my room and got a automatic baton, a taser and a some pepper spray. I went outside and these guy were still yelling I alk up smash in the window and sprayed everyone inside while electricuting the driver. I proceeded to chase this car as it drove away, whil smashing in the back trunk and light with the atoumatic baton. I did this because her life was put on the line, they tried to physically force her into the car and she ran, she was in danger. If it was just a verbal insult especially ina public place were nothing is going to happen then don't worry about it....

:devil:
You're a good man!
 
Does he have the heart to pull the trigger?
IMPULSE. HE'S NOT THINKING. OR MAYBE HE DOES NOT PULL IT IMMEDIATELY - YOU DON'T KNOW.

Is there a round in the chamber?
IF NOT, THERE ARE THREE OF THEM. HE CAN WAIT.

What if it jams? What if it blows up in his face? What if he can't shoot straight? What if I slap the gun ought of his hand?
YOU WATCH TOO MANY MOVIES.

Remember if he was that bad, he wouldn't be hanging out in the mall.
EVEN NIGGERS HAVE TO BUY TAMPONS.


I've been carrying a knife 24\7 since I was 15. I only have a problem with the asshole who made the comments. Truthfully, he would have gotten stabbed after the first nasty comment because it was 3 against one. If I had to stab and slab my way out of there so be it.
AND IF THEY HAVE GUNS OR KNIVES AS WELL? YOU CONTINUE TO DODGE THIS QUESTION.


Why is everybody afraid of blacks or are you saying 3 white guys wouldn't disrespect you like that?
BLACKS COMMIT FAR MORE CRIME PER CAPITA THAN WHITES. YOUNG BLACKS ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE CARRYING WEAPONS.
 
I dunno, this all sounds like a bunch of pussy talk, to me.

Ego? No.

Pride? Hell yeah.

THink about it. Three guys spouting bile at my fiance in a FUCKING MALL! They're going down or i'm going down trying. Period. End of arguement.

Goodnight/morning.
 
Elvis P. said:
Today my fiance and I went to the mall to pick up her wedding band from the jewelers this afternoon. While walking to the store this one black kid starts making comments to my fiance like " hey baby, I would love to fuck you" "Can I get with that". I was so fucking shocked that someone would do this, but I looked at the guy and and gave him a shut the fuck up look and he says, " boy you better watch it, I'll knock you out. Now there is no fucking way this kid could kick my ass but he has his other 2 friends straight from the ghetto with him backing him up. I was so angry, but all i could think about was not to get into a fight and get my fiance hurt or myself. I swear, if i had this kid alone right now i think i could strangle him to death. Did i handle the situation right, or is there something else i should have done?

Who the fuck cares how many punk ass friends he has from the ghetto backing him up!!!! Rip the fuckers heads off!!! He made your women feel like a whore & you didnt do diddly about it!?!!? Im getting pissed off just reading this shit. For crying out loud go get a ball bat or something knock the fucking shit outta them.
 
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Some fag just gave be shit karma for being a stand up guy! He didn't sign his name (no doubt one of the cowards who said to run away) and told me I should be careful what I wish for.
 
Elvis P. said:
Today my fiance and I went to the mall to pick up her wedding band from the jewelers this afternoon. While walking to the store this one black kid starts making comments to my fiance like " hey baby, I would love to fuck you" "Can I get with that". I was so fucking shocked that someone would do this, but I looked at the guy and and gave him a shut the fuck up look and he says, " boy you better watch it, I'll knock you out. Now there is no fucking way this kid could kick my ass but he has his other 2 friends straight from the ghetto with him backing him up. I was so angry, but all i could think about was not to get into a fight and get my fiance hurt or myself. I swear, if i had this kid alone right now i think i could strangle him to death. Did i handle the situation right, or is there something else i should have done?
Due to the length of this thread I was not going to read all replies, but here is mine.
There is a line that one should not cross, this young kid crossed that line into a realm of pure disrespect. You asked "did I handle it correctly", No you sure as fuck did not. You should of beat the living fuck out of all of them, in a polite manner, spit on there flaccid bodies and left them with a "ya heard me". peace
 
You would have gone jail, not them. Sad but true so you did the right thing for the situation. If you ever get the chance though and you see the lil mother fucker out. Kick the shit out of him.
 
WODIN said:
You would have gone jail, not them.

Its a matter of principal. So what, a little jail time. Teaching the little punks a lesson would be worth it. NEVER EVER let anyone take your pride away.
 
Days of the Tantric said:
This thread epitomizes the tough talking internet thugs. How do any of you know what you would do in that situation? This guy is with his fiancee. This isn't a fucking Jet Li movie. 3 against 1, regardless, are horrible odds, especially not knowing if the little thugs are carrying a weapon.

A little jail time is worth it? That's the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard in my life. How are you going to go about getting a job with a felony on your record?

A few years back at a baseball game, these Nelly lookalikes sat behind my wife, my son and me and started cursing like crazy. My wife politely asked them to stop because of my son and they said "fuck you punta". My first reaction was aggressive and I stood up and walked up the aisle toward them. My wife started screaming at me to sit down. Absolutely screaming.

So now i'm pissed at her too. After the usher moved the assholes out of the seats, since they weren't their seats, she told me one of them had his hand on a knife wedged in his belt. Obviously I didn't see this and I would have ended up being totally fucked up right there in front of my wife and son.

So, tough guys, big mouths, what would you have done? What good do I do my wife and kids in either jail or the hospital?

What a fucking joke some of you guys are.
Ondelay mommy e I e I uh oh, whats poppin tonight?
 
Elvis-Thats a bad situation dude. Did you and your girl talk about it after it happened? If so, what were her feeling on how you handled the situation?
 
Days of the Tantric said:

A little jail time is worth it? That's the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard in my life. How are you going to go about getting a job with a felony on your record?

Do you know anything at all about pride & respect? Maybe you should re-read his posts about what all they were calling his future wife.
 
havoc said:
Pride has its place.
Its up to the individual to decide where that place is. peace

I think thats the best reply I've seen in this whole thread. He's not a bitch for not physically reacting. I wouldn't blame him either way, as long as it was just words he is in the right to just let it slide or beat their ass if he wants. Either way there was going to be regret, be it he get hurt, go to jail, or just not do anything and regret not beating their ass and possibly feel kinda like a bitch for not doing so. Now if they would have gotten physical with his wife that is a different story and I'm sure the outcome would have been different as well.
 
i think you did the right thing bro. well done. it is easy for these guys to say you should have beat some ass, but put in the same situation, i bet money they would have done the exact same thing.

( that isnt to say you shouldnt punch that kid in the grill should you ever see him alone some time in the future :) )
 
Thanks for the replys. The majority seem to agree with what i did, which makes me a feel a little better. My fiance and I did talk about it after everything and she said that I did the right thing with the word " You would have gotten your ass kicked". I have always stood up for myself and others, and she has seen me get into a couple of fights before, but with 1 on 1, never 3 on 1. Someone said that they were like 15 years old, they were more my age, probably in their mid 20's. The one that was talking all the shit was probably 50 pounds smaller than me, the othe two were about my size (6'3 220). One thing is that my fiance is not one of those girls that would have just stood on the side screaming and watching, she would have gotten in the mix, but not a big help being 5'3 105 and female, but she has taken kick boxing for 5 years so she thinks she is tough, one good punch and she would be out though. I'm sure i did the right thing, but I would still love to get my hands on the fat fuck that said all that. I hope karma comes around to put that kid in the middle on a drive bye shooting.
 
paradox said:
Days of the Tantric said:

A little jail time is worth it? That's the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard in my life. How are you going to go about getting a job with a felony on your record?

Do you know anything at all about pride & respect? Maybe you should re-read his posts about what all they were calling his future wife.

Show me the honor in going after three guys who are probably armed. Gonna show the world what a badass you are from your hospital bed?
 
With the right amount of smart planning, you could have tracked him down and taken him out without fear of getting caught. This way there is no fear of retaliation from the friends either.
 
I love the way people talk on the interent, I guess before you sign up for Elite Fitness you get the powers of Neo...

The real world is about walking away, enjoying another day and not letting dumb shit overcome you. I am sure you look like a real hero in a body bag. Remember never underestimate a situation, anything can happen in a caotic fight...

I use to fight cause it was tough and sexy and people expected it because of some background experince...i may act like an ass on here but in the real world I am all about being mello...who really fights in the civilized world?
 
You know what? I never said I was tough or big. NEVER. But let this be known. I do not fear men. If I have to get my ass beat, so be it. I've backed down from fights and I've stood up to people as well. At least stepping up to the plate and standing up for what I believe in left me with a greater sense of satisfaction then running away with my tail between my legs.

Anyone that doesn't have the sense to threaten a man's woman deserves to get his ass beat. This is what's wrong with this world, today. A lot of cowards running around in America totally losing sight of what made our country great. Throughout our history, we've fought to stand up for what we believe in. I'm not backing down from no one. If you don't agree, call me what you want. Just don't go after someone I love.
 
gymtime said:


Woulda whoooped all they asses huh tough guy? :rolleyes:

Trust me, I'm the farthest thing from a tough guy. I shy away from confrontation. However, I will always defend loved ones regardless of the odds.
 
this thread made me laugh in a way....


first of all, elvis dont listen to a guy venting from the back of a computer screen. what a man 'sayz he would do to them pussy-o's' and what he would do when in that situation are 2 different things


secondly, you're about to marry this girl. hopefully she;s not the type of girl that is so de-evolved she gets a kick to see her man fight, so there shouldnt be any need to try and prove you're manliness. this happens to be one of my pet hates about some women. im sure she isn't, she should know by know that if needs be you;d defend her with everything you;ve got

thirdly, they are machismo enough to think startig fights is a enjoyable pastime. they probably have small penis's. do you think that if you entered un-armed combat with them you;d be able to win? if so, there is no need to fight them, you KNOW you have the stregth and will to fight them, so you haethe power to walk away. only use violence as a last resort, not as some proof of love. all this 'defending my females honour' is bullshit. if she;s in danger, defend her. if shes honestly THAT riled up by some crackhead punk on the street you might wanna chat to her afterwards and explain to her you didnt wanna potentially kill someone over something that trivial

fourthly, they were probably armed. if they are THAT confident it might be for a reason. is SUCH a trivial thing worth you dying, and her being raped and then beaten and killed?

you did the right thing. you gave em a stare, they backed down. good self control
 
You could always just follow the guy, he has to leave his friends side eventually.

Either way, it appears as though your comfortable with your decision. So I guess that settles this.
 
Situations like this is why I have a rocket launcher on me at all times. Seriously, one rocket could've just taken this trio of east side playaz fo real out and then you could've porked your fiancee right there next to the closest kiosk and been like, yeah who's the man now while their bodies are still smoking.
 
Yes i do feel better knowing that the majority agree that some words out of a punk doesnt mean that I have to throw blows, If they would have touched her, that would be a different story, I would not have even though about doing enything else. there are some crazy fucks on this board though, so I ask them, If you were in my shoes and some guy was just spillin crap at you, If three black thugs are not enough to make you think twice about your fiance safty and your safty then how many is enough? 5? 7? 10? Where do you draw the line and say, there is now possible way i'm goign to come out ahead in this situation? I know some bad mother fuckers as friends and even they said they would have shaken their head and walked away from the situation.
 
This all reminds me of a kind of funny story - the last killing that I saw...

I was sitting in the grass on the boardwalk down at Venice Beach. My wife and I were eating lunch... still remember it... goat curry. We had just worked out at the Muscle Pit (the outdoor gym on the beach. My wife was a highly competative amateur... so it was always a hoot to work out with her at the Pit. Tourists would snap her picture from the minute she started working out till we left.) Well, while we are sitting there... all of a sudden we hear a couple black kids (about 17-18) shouting shit... and telling some Mexican guy with his wife and kid how they are going to f--k he and his wife up. I had seen these kids earlier... they had been hangin on the beach in a group of 5 or 6 and trying to talk trash to everybody. They were punks... but they were the type of stupid punks who thought they were bad asses. Well... they had said something to this Mexican guys wife... and he called them on it. He told them to shut their punk mouths and treat people with respect. One of the black kids immediately pulled out a knife. The Mexican guys wife was one smart babe. She immediately grabbed their little four year old and ran with him into one of the shops while the three black guys moved on her husband. Then we all heard CAP CAP CAP... as the Mexican guy whipped out a Glock and took out the first two guys. The third kid just kept shouting in this really whiny voice, "Don't shoot me man. Don't shoot me." The Mexican guy was an off-duty cop. He killed one of the kids... don't know what happend to the other. Just thought it was a really funny way for those kids day to end after they went out looking for trouble.
 
WHAT??????????????????

Elvis P. said:
Today my fiance and I went to the mall to pick up her wedding band from the jewelers this afternoon. While walking to the store this one black kid starts making comments to my fiance like " hey baby, I would love to fuck you" "Can I get with that". I was so fucking shocked that someone would do this, but I looked at the guy and and gave him a shut the fuck up look and he says, " boy you better watch it, I'll knock you out. Now there is no fucking way this kid could kick my ass but he has his other 2 friends straight from the ghetto with him backing him up. I was so angry, but all i could think about was not to get into a fight and get my fiance hurt or myself. I swear, if i had this kid alone right now i think i could strangle him to death. Did i handle the situation right, or is there something else i should have done?

Are you fucking kidding? Jesus... I probably would have punched him in the face - this happened to me once, that's what I did...:mad:
 
The smart man tells them to shut the fuck up then walks away, there are far more important things to worry about than someone calling you names or talking trash to your girlfriend, talking is one thing, but actions are another.

Unless your Bruce Lee, 3-1 odds un-armed dont look very attractive, armed and you can forget it; and if those three were a disease, you cant hurt a disease you can only destroy it completely. Otherwise it just comes back.

Like they said in Pulp Fiction, Thats pride fucking with ya, Fuck pride, it only hurts, it never helps.
 
Days of the Tantric said:


You obviously care about the people close to you. How do you think those people would feel watching you bleed to death from a stab wound or gunshot right in front of their eyes? Don't say it won't happen, because it does every single day. There's nothing cowardly about picking your spots and knowing when to walk away.

That's a very VERY valid point. Problem is, I do care a great deal about people and I would have a lot of problems thinking about such things. I'd probably start shit without even thinking. However, you do have a good point. I wouldn't want my soon-to-be wife crying over my lifeless body.
 
SofaGeorge said:
This all reminds me of a kind of funny story - the last killing that I saw...

I was sitting in the grass on the boardwalk down at Venice Beach. My wife and I were eating lunch... still remember it... goat curry. We had just worked out at the Muscle Pit (the outdoor gym on the beach. My wife was a highly competative amateur... so it was always a hoot to work out with her at the Pit. Tourists would snap her picture from the minute she started working out till we left.) Well, while we are sitting there... all of a sudden we hear a couple black kids (about 17-18) shouting shit... and telling some Mexican guy with his wife and kid how they are going to f--k he and his wife up. I had seen these kids earlier... they had been hangin on the beach in a group of 5 or 6 and trying to talk trash to everybody. They were punks... but they were the type of stupid punks who thought they were bad asses. Well... they had said something to this Mexican guys wife... and he called them on it. He told them to shut their punk mouths and treat people with respect. One of the black kids immediately pulled out a knife. The Mexican guys wife was one smart babe. She immediately grabbed their little four year old and ran with him into one of the shops while the three black guys moved on her husband. Then we all heard CAP CAP CAP... as the Mexican guy whipped out a Glock and took out the first two guys. The third kid just kept shouting in this really whiny voice, "Don't shoot me man. Don't shoot me." The Mexican guy was an off-duty cop. He killed one of the kids... don't know what happend to the other. Just thought it was a really funny way for those kids day to end after they went out looking for trouble.

That was a funny story. Put a smile on my face. Thanks! :)
 
SofaGeorge said:
This all reminds me of a kind of funny story - the last killing that I saw...

I was sitting in the grass on the boardwalk down at Venice Beach. My wife and I were eating lunch... still remember it... goat curry. We had just worked out at the Muscle Pit (the outdoor gym on the beach. My wife was a highly competative amateur... so it was always a hoot to work out with her at the Pit. Tourists would snap her picture from the minute she started working out till we left.) Well, while we are sitting there... all of a sudden we hear a couple black kids (about 17-18) shouting shit... and telling some Mexican guy with his wife and kid how they are going to f--k he and his wife up. I had seen these kids earlier... they had been hangin on the beach in a group of 5 or 6 and trying to talk trash to everybody. They were punks... but they were the type of stupid punks who thought they were bad asses. Well... they had said something to this Mexican guys wife... and he called them on it. He told them to shut their punk mouths and treat people with respect. One of the black kids immediately pulled out a knife. The Mexican guys wife was one smart babe. She immediately grabbed their little four year old and ran with him into one of the shops while the three black guys moved on her husband. Then we all heard CAP CAP CAP... as the Mexican guy whipped out a Glock and took out the first two guys. The third kid just kept shouting in this really whiny voice, "Don't shoot me man. Don't shoot me." The Mexican guy was an off-duty cop. He killed one of the kids... don't know what happend to the other. Just thought it was a really funny way for those kids day to end after they went out looking for trouble.


well atleast it had a happy ending :)
 
I mentioned this post to a girl i'm seeing and getting pretty deeply involved in. She bashed me on the head for being so "cro-magnon," as she put it.

She said after those guys got done kicking my butt, she'd give me one last bop over the head for ruining the day for her engagement ring. Plus, she'd never want me to get hurt or even risk getting hurt even if those guys were scaring her. My health is more important than any old honor or pride, said she! Could you believe it?

You know what fellas....I guess I have a lot of learning to do about girls and life. I'm still young, i should grow up. Maybe I ought to rethink my gameplan. Elvis, maybe i was a weeeeee bit hasty!
 
Just be glad the Mexican guy shot them. The situation was not the same as "cops shooting people ... situation got heated." It was a clear cut case of a good guy shooting scum (that probably was the product of some whore mass producing babies to collect more welfare) presenting a clear and present danger to him and his loved ones. If he didn't have the gun and training to use it, he should have just fled and waited for another day. Given he had the gun, he did the right thing -- wish though he had killed all three! At least he was able to send one of their souls back to hell from whence it came. It's like one of my favorite heroes -- Bernhard Goetz -- who shot those dirt bags on the NY subway. Shame, though, that Goetz didnt dispatch any of them back to hell. It's a good the Mexican guy was a cop. If he had been a civilian, he would have been busted on a weapons charge as well as federal charges for violating their civil rights to harrass.

As far as the original poster. He did the best thing. It leaves him alive so he can find out who they are, where they live, etc., and hopefully plot some good retaliatory evil against them -- hopefully before they can procreate.
 
If health was really more important than honor then where the hell were we be as a race. Sure all girls can say vilonce is not the awnser but once you kicks someone's ass for her she love you that much more, it's in her genetics. The hero gets the girl type of deal. Those street thugs weren't carrying guns, not even knives, I went to public school so I know all about these "all mouth fucks" and hand to hand combat, you step up to them and they will back down. Plus you weren't taking the whole 3 guys, at best 2 because once you savagely beat one or two of them the other will run away because that's what they do when they are confronted. How do you take out two guys..you kick one in the nuts and put your palm in his face and slam him to the floor with all your force and the other one is just easy picking. You have to insure savageness so the other one will run so you have to act mad...trust me nobody messes with a guy that kicks in the nuts.

Deep in side your girlfriends's mind her subsconsious is trully disturbed by your action or should say non action, you have taken your primal duties of protecting your love one and thru it out the window by your show of cowarness.....how do you live with yourself after that eludes me.

I'm joking, you did the right thing. Many scenarios could of occured, the most common would of been you getting your ass kick and then your lady going to help you and she getting punch by these animals and you would of been worse off or you could of acted crazy in rage and kick two of their asses and the other one would of ran.
 
supernav said:
>The Mexican guy was an off-duty cop. He killed one of the kids...

He could've avoided all that if he had just identified himself as an officer and flashed his gun. As an officer who's trained in confronting criminals -- he sure acted very irresponsibly. In the academy we were trained better than that. Otherwise you'd see cops shooting people dead every single day whenever the situation got heated.


I don't mean to flame you but that is an incredibly ignorant comment. And it is also very obvious that your real world experience is limited to television. Believe me when I tell you, when a guy is lunging at you with a knife - you do not stop and say, "Halt! I'm a police officer. See here are my gun and badge." I'm just glad that guy was trained well enough to get his gun out quickly enough that it wasn't him being hauled away in a bodybag.

Oddly enough, is how quickly this stuff happens. I was there... and I honestly don't think I could have counted to "two" from the moment that kid pulled out a knife and moved on the cop till he was shot... they weren't even 5 feet apart.
 
Days of the Tantric said:


hmmmm...someone on this board who is actually intelligent enough to realize that something they believe in may not be the end all be all......can't be.

Well, I'm not saying I agree but I have to say one thing. I love and hate women all at the same time. :rolleyes: This girl did have a way of putting this situation in a perspective that I could totally comprehend, something a bunch of test driven guys never could. I say a good arguement always needs a dash of estrogen to balance out the views.
 
Bigsatan13 said:


:devil: You don't carry a knife?


i agree i dont leave home without one,i figure if they can use it so can i,only diff is im trained to they arent so i win


and elvis you did the right thing bro,your both alive so thats all that matters,now go buy a sweet ass knife
 
Elvis P. said:
Today my fiance and I went to the mall to pick up her wedding band from the jewelers this afternoon. While walking to the store this one black kid starts making comments to my fiance like " hey baby, I would love to fuck you" "Can I get with that". I was so fucking shocked that someone would do this, but I looked at the guy and and gave him a shut the fuck up look and he says, " boy you better watch it, I'll knock you out. Now there is no fucking way this kid could kick my ass but he has his other 2 friends straight from the ghetto with him backing him up. I was so angry, but all i could think about was not to get into a fight and get my fiance hurt or myself. I swear, if i had this kid alone right now i think i could strangle him to death. Did i handle the situation right, or is there something else i should have done?

dude although those kids are probably going to end up in jail or better yet dead, next time grab some rope and make a noose and proceed from there.
 
KAYNE said:
*WONDERING WHY YOU DIDNT RIP HIS HEAD OFF AND SPLASH BLOOD ON HIS TWO FRIENDS*


DUDE, HAVE YOU NO NUTS!!! 2 FRIENDS OR NOT, ITS THE PRINCIPLE OF THE MATTER.


KAYNE

I would have killed that little son of a bitch........



The south....
 
Some of these responses are some of the most ignorant I've heard on this particular board. However, color doesn't matter. By not doing anything you showed your fiancee that you have self-control. They didn't lay a hand on her. All it was was words. They wanted a response from you. What I'm saying is that they probably had no intention of getting a rise from your girl. Instead, they were trying to insight something with you.

Look at it this way. After you get married and you guys have arguments she'll know that you won't go flying off the handle over "words". Everyday you are with her she will learn something new about you until the end. That day, she learned something else--you are a man with self-control who doesn't let silly shit bother him.

Don't let race be an issue. be a man of principle and not a man of ignorance. I bet after 40-50 years of marriage she will still find that special about you.

4rt
 
Big4rt- I agree with everything you say but I want to clear something up. You might be confused thinking that becasue they were black I had a different point of view on all of this. The fact is I said they were black because they were black, if they were scummy looking white boys I would have refered to them as 3 white trailer trash fucks, just expressing and trying to be as depictive as I can be.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:
You did good. Think of it like this, if you had fought, chances are you would be in jail for assault.

It is all about the jealousy. Dey iz tryin to hold you down brutha. White Power. Whiter Power.

Changes are good those getto bros have been in trouble there whole life so if elvis has never been in any trouble im sure if he really fucked them up he woudl get off easily.

Not to long ago these Blacks jumped a guy I know put him in the hospital with a broken jaw. His best friend went after them that same day and unloaded a 10 rounds from a 45 blowing out there window and the blacks went crying to the police. An officer found him and ask him about it and of course he said he didnt know anything about it and the cops left it at that. He could haver prolly killed them all and nothing would have happened.

For some reason people are scared to death of blacks. I think it is because they stick together so well. If that punk said something to my wife like that I would have had to say something at least but its hard when you are outnumbered badly. IF I ever seen that punk on the street by himself it would be on.
 
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[He should've flashed his badge and gun during the heated exchange.
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Nav ... cops are specifically taught NOT to do this. If a cop whipped out his gun and waved it around every time there was a tense situation we would have a true mess on our hands.
 
[ He could haver prolly killed them all and nothing would have happened. [/B]

That reminds me of one of the strangest comments I ever heard. A girl I know had a sister who was raped and almost murdered... the guy crushed her skull with a pipe and left her head injured. The guy got caught (because of a really tough chick on a ten speed bike who chased his ass down and wouldn't let go of him till the police could get there.) The guy got sent to Angola prison. Angola is bad... at the time the highest death count of any prison in the country... mostly 'cuz a lot of guys are out there every day cutting sugar cane with machetes. The girl was mad... insane mad at what the guy had done to her sister... and she wanted to have himd killed. She asked me if it was possible to have a guy killed while he was in prison. I told her it was easy. Then she asked me the big question. How much? I wasn't going to set it up for her... figured time would simmer her down... but I decided to ask a guy I knew (who truly could arrange some strange stuff) what it would cost. When I asked him, he said, "Angola? $5,000 if he's white. $500 if he's black." I asked him why the price difference. He said, "There's no investigation if a black guy gets killed."

That is the reality of race and commerce in our society.
 
Sometimes you have to eat some humble pie and walk away from a situation and be the bigger person. Many people on here talk a lot of shit as if to say they can box like mike tyson but why not be the bigger perfson and walk away.Also all these examples seem to include BLACKS as the bad seed out there who are on the prowl for trouble? WHITE KIDS don't do these things or am I missing something here.I have my concealed weapons permit and that does not mean I go into any neighborhood white or black and look for trouble. It seems comical to some on here to write BLACK and they seem to get a kick out of it for them and their crew on this site. The choices are walk away and live to see your grandchildren or have a confrontation and take a big CHANCE???If watching the news and seeing people who died because they had stepped on someones sneakers makes you sick than why not practice the same self control that could of made that situation NEVER OCCUR.
 
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ANGOLA WOULD BE LOUSIANA STATE PENITENTURY. AT ONE TIME, IT WAS THE DEADLIEST PRISON IN THE LAND!!! STILL BAD BUT NOWHERE NEAR WHAT IT WAS.



KAYNE
 
RIZZO........YOU SOUND LIKE A LITTLE WHINEY GIRL WITH THAT JUST WALK AWAY SHIT!!! I TAKE IT YOU GET WALKED ON ALL THE TIME!!! STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. FUCK GETTING WALKED ON.


KAYNE
 
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