BigCracker said:I think we all warned eddie1 about the dangers of insulin on his "what to drink post workout w/ using insulin thread" a few days back. Needless to say he's doing it and will likely keep doing it till the cows come home. So save your keystrokes insulin police. It's his funeral. May his coffin be a large one if that's his fate.
I did my usual post workout fave meal of a salad with viagrette dressing and 12 eggwhites and maybe a backed potato and some low fat/fat free cottage cheese-which wasn't easy to eat after chugging down a half gallon or more of grape juice. I avoid fats for this meal big time as I tend to get fat as fuck using insulin which is why I take gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - /Clenbuterol/small amount of t3- when using it. What I won't eat is hamburger or any red meat except maybe a filet mignon. I might eat some broiled orange roughy, but after eating foods like fish and turkey for contest diets year after year I try not to torture myself with these foods that much anymore. It's tough enough even choking down food I love with all of that sugary liquid digesting in my gut.
eddie1 said:thanks bro what do u eat for your next 2 meals? do u avoid fats totally for the rest of the day?
Faizakafez said:after about 1 hour of your shot in my eyes chicken and sweet potatoes are the best at this you want low gi carbs with this meal not high gi carbs. you want approx 30-50 grams protein and 30-50 grams of carbs
YOU DONT WANT ANY FATS WHILE INSULIN IS STILL ACTIVE
So for the entire active life of the insulin always consume only carbs and protein. so depends on the insulin ur using short acting is 8 hours i belive
Faizakafez said:after about 1 hour of your shot in my eyes chicken and sweet potatoes are the best at this you want low gi carbs with this meal not high gi carbs. you want approx 30-50 grams protein and 30-50 grams of carbs
YOU DONT WANT ANY FATS WHILE INSULIN IS STILL ACTIVE
So for the entire active life of the insulin always consume only carbs and protein. so depends on the insulin ur using short acting is 8 hours i belive
BigCracker said:I think it's 4 hrs bro, for Humilin R anyways.
Like he said, no fats while insulin is active. I won't be too anal about fats the other times of day but definitely more than usual. I surely won't eat any 1/4 pounders w/ cheese where I might eat 1-2 of them(or a similar fast food burger or some pizza) a week otherwise. Keep in mind the rest of my day's diet will be relatively clean and I won't crave any sugar at all.
Faizakafez said:YOU DONT WANT ANY FATS WHILE INSULIN IS STILL ACTIVE
So for the entire active life of the insulin always consume only carbs and protein. so depends on the insulin ur using short acting is 8 hours i belive
mattdan said:Thinking that avoiding fats will keep your body from depositing fat while on insulin is just plain wrong. Fat can interfere with the carb absorbtion however - I assume that's what he means here.
Your body can, does, and WILL make it's own fat from sugar.
Fat does not make you fat. Insulin and carbs is what makes you fat. Your body cannot manufacture vitamins or protein, but it can manufacture it's own fat.
gjohnson5 said:There is a big difference with using sugars to spike insulin and injecting 10ui of humalog...
If one is injecting humalog post workout
1. The muscles are in a state in which they can absorb more nutrients
2. GLUT4 activity from insulin will allow skeletal muscle to accept even more nutrients
Fats can be produced from excess carbs , but in this example the carbs should be eaten some time after the injection. PWO excess calories converting to fat doesn't have to be an issue is the diet is altered
Anyway the question is about an insulin injection , not swallowing sugars to spike insulin
mattdan said:NO - the question was what to eat after injection. Read again. His follow up question was for additional input.
WTF you got swallowing sugars to spike insulin from my post is beyond me.
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