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wow..it must take days and days of practive to get that agile and balanced.


much more important to perfect ur skateboard technique than say.......GETTING A JOB????
 
rnch said:
wow..it must take days and days of practive to get that agile and balanced.


much more important to perfect ur skateboard technique than say.......GETTING A JOB????

lol at Getting a job
 
rnch said:
wow..it must take days and days of practive to get that agile and balanced.


much more important to perfect ur skateboard technique than say.......GETTING A JOB????


You could say the same for any sport. People rip on skaters like they're the scum of the athletic world...truth is it takes more balls to be a good skater than it does any of the typical jock sports.
 
borris said:
skaters get zero women


Not necessarily true. Depends on whom you run with. There's team school sports and then there's skaters (rebel sport). Of course, yeah you can pretty much count out the valley girl/cheerleader types.



Yeah I had a skate boarding stint late in high school; it was fun.
 
Wasn't Avril Lavigne in love with a Sk8ter boy?
 
whats with the skater haters here. I was never a skater but thought think its amazing what they can do...........some skater chics are pretty hot too
 
seaking420 said:
whats with the skater haters here. I was never a skater but thought think its amazing what they can do...........some skater chics are pretty hot too

For real. That takes mad skillz. I try skateboarding once and sucked at it, making fun of them shows a lack of maturity or just trying to be macho.
 
Fucking sick! That hippy can ride. Unless you've tried to skate, you can't appreciate how good that dude is.
 
jestro said:
Fucking sick! That hippy can ride. Unless you've tried to skate, you can't appreciate how good that dude is.

If I sponged off my mom and rode all day, I could be good too.
 
rnch said:
wow..it must take days and days of practive to get that agile and balanced.


much more important to perfect ur skateboard technique than say.......GETTING A JOB????
gurantee that the individual in the vid makes quadriple what you or I pull down.
he's a pro, doing what he loves, getting paid travelling the world.
why all the hate?
just as much as an athelete as any footballer or baskball player
 
redguru said:
Probably due to their inability to get work that entails more than "do you want fries with that?".
bro, i hate to break it to you, but chris haslam financially would own you.
just saying
 
Moltke said:
gurantee that the individual in the vid makes quadriple what you or I pull down.
he's a pro, doing what he loves, getting paid travelling the world.
why all the hate?
just as much as an athelete as any footballer or baskball player

Ahh, so he gets paid to vandalize public property?
 
redguru said:
Ahh, so he gets paid to vandalize public property?
meh, call it what you will.
but if you can't see the skill that requires then i dunno.
you gotta appreciate the skill and nuts required
 
Moltke said:
meh, call it what you will.
but if you can't see the skill that requires then i dunno.
you gotta appreciate the skill and nuts required

I can see the skill, but that's why there is skate parks. Scraping the powder coat off handrails and park benches that I helped pay for isn't something I condone.
 
redguru said:
I can see the skill, but that's why there is skate parks. Scraping the powder coat off handrails and park benches that I helped pay for isn't something I condone.
Shut the fuck up grandma.
 
redguru said:
I can see the skill, but that's why there is skate parks. Scraping the powder coat off handrails and park benches that I helped pay for isn't something I condone.
and i agree with that.
but america is a concrete jungle with sheetloads of available terrain.
the odds are you will go most of your life without ever being bothered by skaters or really being annoyed with their destruction.
lotsa abandoed shit for to fuck around with
 
Moltke said:
gurantee that the individual in the vid makes quadriple what you or I pull down.
he's a pro, doing what he loves, getting paid travelling the world.
why all the hate?
just as much as an athelete as any footballer or baskball player
doubtfull
 
rnch said:
doubtfull
don't hate cause the "Fry server" gets more cheddar than us hard working folks.
but he does, not the norm, but he's a pro with lotsa sponsors, shoes and videos. and he travels the world doing something he loves.
sounds like a more exciting life than being a state worker or a dumb carpenter
 
rnch said:
doubtfull

they get alot of money now a days.. just look at tony hawk..

he's money, he's intelligent, he's got some business savy, and he's amazing at skateboarding.

fuck it's really thanks to him, that skaters are making such good money these days.
 
If someone could find me a video of andy mcdonald and tony hawk skating at the X game doubles that would be sick as hell, I loved those two together.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
bump for bino cause I POSTED A VIDEO FOR HIM!

ffs.
oh yeah bro, i've seen that before
i think there is multiple parts
hard to tell when they are riding switch or regular foot
 
Moltke said:
oh yeah bro, i've seen that before
i think there is multiple parts
hard to tell when they are riding switch or regular foot

yeah there is like three rounds to it, but you don't have all day now do you, lol.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
yeah there is like three rounds to it, but you don't have all day now do you, lol.
are you a skaterfag or a fanboy like myself?
i used to skate, still have a board but i pretty much suck now.
limited to driveway ollies and shitty kickflips that i never land lol
 
Moltke said:
muska is still a stud skater and entrepeneur.
made a lotta bank with shortys
i like his style, not as techy but aggressive.
check that vid i posted, it's only 2 minutes long
that's the best skating i've ever seen


Saw it. Not sure if it's the best, but dude was GOOOOOOD.

I miss that shit man
 
KillahBee said:
Saw it. Not sure if it's the best, but dude was GOOOOOOD.

I miss that shit man
did you know muska produced a rap album? never heard it but i read about it.
i think prodigy and biz markie were a few of the "guests"
 
Yeah props for chad muska for sure.

Bucky Lasek was awesome too.

Uhm I used to be a skater fag but like you I don't really skate anymore, mostly due to the fact that I have 2 plates and seven screws in my ankle, and my body broke my last zooyork.. that mother fucker..

oh well.. =/

I still wear the skate shoes and the clothes, nothing more comfortable then a pair of skate shoes.. period..
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
Yeah props for chad muska for sure.

Bucky Lasek was awesome too.

Uhm I used to be a skater fag but like you I don't really skate anymore, mostly due to the fact that I have 2 plates and seven screws in my ankle, and my body broke my last zooyork.. that mother fucker..

oh well.. =/

I still wear the skate shoes and the clothes, nothing more comfortable then a pair of skate shoes.. period..


"."
 
abolish the weak said:
my brother is a really good sk8r, and I'd have to disagree w/ anyone who thinks they dont get girls, he has em left and right

exxactly..

they are just haters and probably got some trucks in the back of the head when they were younger or something..

calling skaters fags and whatnot..

lol..
 
rnch said:
wow..it must take days and days of practive to get that agile and balanced.


much more important to perfect ur skateboard technique than say.......GETTING A JOB????


You know it's funny. One of Tony Hawks high school teachers told him he wasn't going to amount to much...too bad at the age of 15-16 he had already made more money in a year what that teacher would make in 5 and purchased a house.
 
crew9 said:
You know it's funny. One of Tony Hawks high school teachers told him he wasn't going to amount to much...too bad at the age of 15-16 he had already made more money in a year what that teacher would make in 5 and purchased a house.
yeah but that's the exception, not the norm
tony got lucky with the video game, that really brought a second wind to his career.
most skaters remain poor and anoyomous...it's an unforgiving sport where junior is always available to out-sick senior. plus with injuries and most pros and ams not having health insurance, it's a tough way to try to get paid.
most just do it for the love and the applause of their buddies, that's what i like about it.
funny, RNCH doesn't tell an amatuer bb'er to get a job.
why does he say that about skaters?
 
Moltke said:
yeah but that's the exception, not the norm
tony got lucky with the video game, that really brought a second wind to his career.
most skaters remain poor and anoyomous...it's an unforgiving sport where junior is always available to out-sick senior. plus with injuries and most pros and ams not having health insurance, it's a tough way to try to get paid.
most just do it for the love and the applause of their buddies, that's what i like about it.
funny, RNCH doesn't tell an amatuer bb'er to get a job.
why does he say that about skaters?


Let's not sell it too short. I work with several sponsors involved in the Dew tour and X games - it's quite a profitable business. The fan demo for action sports is the most coveted by marketers, so people are paying big money to support these sports. Sure, it's no NFL, but the landscape has already changed (for the better) immensely since we were kids.

Skaters aren't just highschool potheads skipping class cause they found a new knee-high curb to grind. You have 12yo's sponsored by companies with deep pockets and 16yo's touring the country competing for blue-chip backed paychecks.
 
Mad ignorance shown by rnch though. Sounds like a crusty ol WWI vet w/ dementia.

"Goddamn kids!! Get off my laaaaaawn!!!"
 
KillahBee said:
Let's not sell it too short. I work with several sponsors involved in the Dew tour and X games - it's quite a profitable business. The fan demo for action sports is the most coveted by marketers, so people are paying big money to support these sports. Sure, it's no NFL, but the landscape has already changed (for the better) immensely since we were kids.

Skaters aren't just highschool potheads skipping class cause they found a new knee-high curb to grind. You have 12yo's sponsored by companies with deep pockets and 16yo's touring the country competing for blue-chip backed paychecks.
but the window to shine is so minor.
only got a few years to really be a stud, then your are replaced by the younger kids.
and the real pulse of skating is not found at those tours...the media loves halfpipe shit but that's been out since bones brigade. you'd never see a muska or geoff rowley at a dew tour.
 
The reality of this is that very very few people earn a living as skaters. The pool of professionals is so very small, the odds are almost worse than the lottery. I have seen local kids that could skate circles around Mullen. Some of the things they do simply make you believe the skateboard is a living entity telepathically controlled by their minds.

I take my little neighbor to skate a lot and to skate shops when they have "touring pros" to come down. I see these pros doing the tours and for the life of me, I can't imagine what they get out of it. They living in motorcoach type van. Crash 5-6 to a room in sponsor family homes or garages, or if they are really lucky, a hotel room. They show up at signing and you can look at them a mile away and tell they are already baked out of their heads. Eventually they are replaced by the sponsors and end up with hardly any life skills or education to fall back on. They are in their late 20s with the stunted mental development of a 15 year old.

It is sad. The people making money off the skating culture aren't even skaters. It is like bodybuilding, the $$$ goes to the sponsors, the corps, the licenses, etc... very few of the actual people who bring the $$ into this culture in the first place see any of it. The dude that is designing the graphics to go on the bottom of the skateboards is making more money off that than the people on tour riding them and selling them. It's a sad fact. It is another example of how corporations and people prey off the talent and marketing of others.
 
AAP said:
The reality of this is that very very few people earn a living as skaters. The pool of professionals is so very small, the odds are almost worse than the lottery. I have seen local kids that could skate circles around Mullen. Some of the things they do simply make you believe the skateboard is a living entity telepathically controlled by their minds.

I take my little neighbor to skate a lot and to skate shops when they have "touring pros" to come down. I see these pros doing the tours and for the life of me, I can't imagine what they get out of it. They living in motorcoach type van. Crash 5-6 to a room in sponsor family homes or garages, or if they are really lucky, a hotel room. They show up at signing and you can look at them a mile away and tell they are already baked out of their heads. Eventually they are replaced by the sponsors and end up with hardly any life skills or education to fall back on. They are in their late 20s with the stunted mental development of a 15 year old.

It is sad. The people making money off the skating culture aren't even skaters. It is like bodybuilding, the $$$ goes to the sponsors, the corps, the licenses, etc... very few of the actual people who bring the $$ into this culture in the first place see any of it. The dude that is designing the graphics to go on the bottom of the skateboards is making more money off that than the people on tour riding them and selling them. It's a sad fact. It is another example of how corporations and people prey off the talent and marketing of others.
good post
but no way some punk kid is skating circles around rodney mullen, i'd need video proof of that.
but yeah, mtn dew/redbull/sony etc, are only in it for the money. when the next holla-hoop comes around they'll bounce on skating like they did in the late 80's.
though their is a lot of skater owned companies that aren't corporate pawns, shorty's is an example.
but that lifestyle you talk of, traveling and living dirty...you have to give it props, all for the love. not many people of that type of passion in their lives. if everyone did it would be a happier earf
 
Moltke said:
but the window to shine is so minor.
only got a few years to really be a stud, then your are replaced by the younger kids.
and the real pulse of skating is not found at those tours...the media loves halfpipe shit but that's been out since bones brigade. you'd never see a muska or geoff rowley at a dew tour.


A few things to note here:

- The window to shine is so minor in MOST major sports. The avg NFL career is 3.8 seasons. If you don't like it, don't join. Nobody said pro sports is a stable career choice.

- "real pusle"? What does that have to do with anything?? Saying "halfpipe shit" has been out since bones brigade is just a dumb comment, man. The "media" doesn't have the power to get an X Games or Dew AST up and running. It's the fans, the viewers, the corporate dollar that backs these things (then the media comes in). Action sports are WILDLY popular right now - for fans and marketers.

- You can't say that you would never see a muska or GR at a dew tour, that's an unfair statement. Look at the current roster: Bucky Lasek (born in 72), Burnquist (born in 76), Crum (born in 73), pappas (born in 75), and a bunch of younger dudes I don't know. These are RESPECTED skaters.

Sounds like you're kind of profiling and not really understanding the whole biz of these sports. Shaun White is sponsored by AMEX. AMEX, for Christ's sake. You know what that does? It puts a ton of corporate dollars behind the sport, helps grow it at every level. That's a very good thing, maing.
 
AAP said:
It is sad. The people making money off the skating culture aren't even skaters. It is like bodybuilding, the $$$ goes to the sponsors, the corps, the licenses, etc... very few of the actual people who bring the $$ into this culture in the first place see any of it. The dude that is designing the graphics to go on the bottom of the skateboards is making more money off that than the people on tour riding them and selling them. It's a sad fact. It is another example of how corporations and people prey off the talent and marketing of others.


But what you and the rest of the people who do not understand the sponsorship/partnership model cease to recognize is that we wouldn't even be talking about skating or pro football or the Olympics if there were not corporate sponsors.

It's easy to be the armchair quarterback and wax cliche'd poetic on how "the big corporations don't care about the athletes and just want money!!! They are evil!!!" without actually understanding each person's role in this dance. It is all about partnerships.

These athletes and properties and sports orgs are not simply taking a handful of cash in an envelope in some back room from a Lexus lawyer and running away with it kicking little kids over on their way to the parking lots. These people sit down and brainstorm ways for both sides to get what they want.

Marketers gets access to much coveted demos.

Athletes get more money into their potential earnings pot and get important exposure leading them to sponsors and more $$.

Properties get exposure, media partners and sport-growing partners in these corporations.

Not sure how many big-league contracts you have negotiated, but there is not one property out there that does not write in several obligation lines that require the sponsor to put some $ and promotional muscle behind growing the sport.
 
A lot of those touring are not doing it for love, they are doing it because that is all they know how to do. They can't do anything else. They get square meals a day, to sleep as much as they want, video games to play, buddies to hang out with all day and (in some cases) all the pot they want from fans tipping them or their tour managers hooking them up.

It is sad. It is very uncommon that you come across someone like Tony Hawk or Bam (hate to say it) that can parlay it into some mega $$. And even when they do, it is even more uncommon that they have the brains or access to the brains to help them invest and manage.
 
AAP said:
It is sad. It is very uncommon that you come across someone like Tony Hawk or Bam (hate to say it) that can parlay it into some mega $$. And even when they do, it is even more uncommon that they have the brains or access to the brains to help them invest and manage.

It's also uncommon to come across a Ladanian Tomlinson or an Alex Rodriguez, if you look at the numbers. Same for all sports.

And you guys need to recognize the leaps and bounds the action sports industry has made in years. My call is that in the next 5-8 years they will have a universal, organized group w/ labor laws, etc. Just like the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc.

Give it time. See the big picture.
 
killah i think what is different about skating is that it has elluded corps for a long time (for the most part)
always been an underground sport, ostraziced as being for fags and whatnot.
and what i meant about half-pipe contests is that the majority of current skaters aren't riding pipes anymore. do you see any around cause i don't and i used see them all the time...it's a street skating world, the pipe is a circus type of event that has momentarily caught the eye of corporations, proly largely due to tony hawk.
i don't know how a panel of judges can judge a skater, that seems fucking gaye.
it's not a sport like that, with judges and rules. and that's why you will never see the true hardcores like muska at such events.
 
Moltke said:
killah i think what is different about skating is that it has elluded corps for a long time (for the most part)
always been an underground sport, ostraziced as being for fags and whatnot.
and what i meant about half-pipe contests is that the majority of current skaters aren't riding pipes anymore. do you see any around cause i don't and i used to all the time...it's a street skating world, the pipe is a circus type of event that has momentarily caught the eye of corporations, proly largely due to tony hawk.
i don't know how a panel of judges can judge a skater, that seems fucking gaye.
it's not a sport like that, with judges and rules. and that's why you will never see the true hardcores like muska at such events.


I think you're glorifying the "hardcore" sport part of it, which is fine, that's your choice. "The majority of current skaters aren't riding pipes anymore" - dude, without any statistical evidence I can't even pay attention to this statement. Altho, I guarantee the numbers at Woodward have skyrocketed in the last several years. Check those out, I guarantee it.

And once again, the pipes have NOTHING to do with the sponsors. Dude, sponsors don't join a project BEFORE the fans do in most cases. Skating and action sports have proven that they have a loyal fan base of the most appetizing demographic. They are popular enough to have major media partners. Then come the sponsors who want in on that action, they want access to that demo.
 
KillahBee said:
I used to rock baby blue Etnies
pipes have everything to do with sponsors.
the big air, the crashes, the drama.
you don't see mtn dew going to some crusy staircase and sponsoring a rail session..
whatever, dudes are doing nollie flip tricks on those big ass half pipes, fucking crazy
 
AAP said:
A lot of those touring are not doing it for love, they are doing it because that is all they know how to do. They can't do anything else. They get square meals a day, to sleep as much as they want, video games to play, buddies to hang out with all day and (in some cases) all the pot they want from fans tipping them or their tour managers hooking them up.

It is sad. It is very uncommon that you come across someone like Tony Hawk or Bam (hate to say it) that can parlay it into some mega $$. And even when they do, it is even more uncommon that they have the brains or access to the brains to help them invest and manage.
the saddness of passion, everyone can't be successfull
true in all sports...bb'ing is a prime example
 
KillahBee said:
I used to rock baby blue Etnies

I got a pair of etnies, Emerica's and Dvs right now..

white DVS I like em, I miss globe double tongues though, damn those were comfortable.

do you no longer sport any skate shoes oh stylish one?
 
Moltke said:
pipes have everything to do with sponsors.
the big air, the crashes, the drama.
you don't see mtn dew going to some crusy staircase and sponsoring a rail session..
whatever, dudes are doing nollie flip tricks on those big ass half pipes, fucking crazy

lol. I am a sponsorship consultant. I may have to take what I do for a living over your opinion in this case, man. Sorry. :qt:
 
Moltke said:
killah i think what is different about skating is that it has elluded corps for a long time (for the most part)
always been an underground sport, ostraziced as being for fags and whatnot.
and what i meant about half-pipe contests is that the majority of current skaters aren't riding pipes anymore. do you see any around cause i don't and i used see them all the time...it's a street skating world, the pipe is a circus type of event that has momentarily caught the eye of corporations, proly largely due to tony hawk.
i don't know how a panel of judges can judge a skater, that seems fucking gaye.
it's not a sport like that, with judges and rules. and that's why you will never see the true hardcores like muska at such events.


Every skate park here has a bowl or halfpipe. Most have street obstacles too, but halfpipes are still popular.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
I got a pair of etnies, Emerica's and Dvs right now..

white DVS I like em, I miss globe double tongues though, damn those were comfortable.

do you no longer sport any skate shoes oh stylish one?

Nah, I'd feel like a poser since I don't skate. Plus I don't like dressing as what I do (i.e. I surf, but I won't dress like a surfer).
 
I was sponsored by Shut and Cheapskates PA. It basically meant I got a free deck every once in a while, some free t-shirts, discounted stuff at Cheapskates, and to help set up and clean up when the Bones Brigade rolled through.
 
I was sponsored by a tiny shop on Thayer Street called Black something. I wasn't really much good tho, compared to the kids I skated with.

So much fun tho. There's something to be said about a sport where you can turn an ordinary looking set of stairs or a curb or a ledge into hours of fun and creativity.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
you should try another pair of skate shoes kb.. they are just so damned comfortable.. give it a whirl, lol. =)

If I was on the East Coast I might consider it. But here in Cali I'd just look like everyone else.

Those things can take a beating too
 
KillahBee said:
lol. I am a sponsorship consultant. I may have to take what I do for a living over your opinion in this case, man. Sorry. :qt:
i know you what you do and i'm not trying to trump that.
it takes a much different type of approach to skating than it does the us open or the super bowl. the big dawgs such as nike don't have as much pull and are having to work to get skater "props" yes?
this has all happened before, skating blew up, espn had contests on tv, then it lost interest and they pulled out, parks closed, became not cool to be a skaterfag.
so i think peeps are bitter and leery of corp suits in skating and that's why the small skater own companies dominate
 
Moltke said:
i know you what you do and i'm not trying to trump that.
it takes a much different type of approach to skating than it does the us open or the super bowl. the big dawgs such as nike don't have as much pull and are having to work to get skater "props" yes?
this has all happened before, skating blew up, espn had contests on tv, then it lost interest and they pulled out, parks closed, became not cool to be a skaterfag.
so i think peeps are bitter and leery of corp suits in skating and that's why the small skater own companies dominate


Well now you're talking about actual product (in the last line)?

My point is this - skating is in a very healthy place right now. Is it the NFL? Nope. Will it ever be? Nope. But these things don't happen overnight, it's a gradual process w/ ups and downs. And corporate $ is a HUGE part of skating's eventual continued success. It's not there to take away the street cred, it's there to add to the overall growth and health of the sport, which benefits EVERYONE, from the execs at Pepsi to the local skate shop owner in your hood.
 
jnevin said:
Comparing street comps to half pipe comps is like comparing the And1 tour to the NBA.
but that's just it bro.
some of the siiickest street skaters aren't participating in street comps.
the comps, for whatever reason, don't bring out the best necessairly.
but for vert riders, that's how the money is made.
 
LOL @ all the peeps in here claiming to have sponsorships for their skateboard skilllzzzz
 
"Yeah, I was sponsored by vision... I got them rad shoes, a bunch of gator decks, wheels.... I was in Thrasher Mag once in a vision ad pulling a 720 high side"
 
LOL @ the computer geek that has admitted to not liking anything athletic ripping on two people that didn't claim to do any of that.
 
Oh... I like skateboards, bikes, rollerblades, I even played hockey, wrestled, and football my freshman year...


I just don't like watching sports... nothing could be more boring...
 
jnevin said:
LOL @ the computer geek that has admitted to not liking anything athletic ripping on two people that didn't claim to do any of that.
jh1's childhood was spent alone making fun of all the kids having fun playing kick ball.
 
jh1 said:
Oh... I like skateboards, bikes, rollerblades, I even played hockey, wrestled, and football my freshman year...


I just don't like watching sports... nothing could be more boring...

Most Masculine EF Statement Ever
 
jh1 said:
Interesting coming from someone that doesn't care about fitting in.


Fitting in is masculine?

Oh yeah, do you do coke? WOW!! So fucking badass!!!!!! Please drop it into e-conversation 400 times a day. Pwease
 
KillahBee said:
Fitting in is masculine?

Oh yeah, do you do coke? WOW!! So fucking badass!!!!!! Please drop it into e-conversation 400 times a day. Pwease



No but valuing masculinity and the qualities that make you masculine is most certainly equivalent to wanting to fit in... :)
 
jh1 said:
No but valuing masculinity and the qualities that make you masculine is most certainly equivalent to wanting to fit in... :)


Agreed.

(making meaningless jokes on the Internet is kind of hard to qualify as wanting to fit in, fyi)
 
KillahBee said:
Well now you're talking about actual product (in the last line)? My point is this - skating is in a very healthy place right now. Is it the NFL? Nope. Will it ever be? Nope. But these things don't happen overnight, it's a gradual process w/ ups and downs. And corporate $ is a HUGE part of skating's eventual continued success. It's not there to take away the street cred, it's there to add to the overall growth and health of the sport, which benefits EVERYONE, from the execs at Pepsi to the local skate shop owner in your hood.

products are how skaters make the bulk of their loot.
shoes, decks, etc, not from contests.
check around, the most popular boards are not vert skater boards.
I'm telling you it's a lost art, propped up by corps who will be gone tommorrow
 
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