sides from test

[binö]

when do they happen?
my first cycle, in about week 7-8 of 1/2 gram of test e pw.
no sides, if i don't take an armidex dosage i feel a tingling in my nips...other than that nothing but kick ass effects.
killing it in the gym, almost bashful to lift in front of others cause i'm fukkin killin it so hard.
gaining poundages slowly...started off about 180 close to 200 currently solid as fuk low bodyfat proly 8-10ish.
i got enough test to run it for 15 weeks, i was thinking of doing this to maximize the gains i'm still making...good idea?
could the sides still happen?
and thinking about PCT, i got clomid and that's it so far...like to use some OTC compounds any suggestions?
thanks
discuss

 

[noodles]

Your PCT needs help man.
You need to get yourself some HCG in order to jump start your natural test production, clomid will only keep the estro down.
You can use the HCG while on-cycle or when your cycle ends; its a matter of preference
The gains your realizing now will dwindle quick without the proper PCT.
I know guys in the past who felt like you do now only to loose it all when its over then get real depressed.
Not saying that will happen but you do need a much better PCT plan in place.
Also, Needto has some good OTC supps for post cycle recovery.

 

[binö]

Your PCT needs help man.
You need to get yourself some HCG in order to jump start your natural test production, clomid will only keep the estro down.
You can use the HCG while on-cycle or when your cycle ends; its a matter of preference
The gains your realizing now will dwindle quick without the proper PCT.
I know guys in the past who felt like you do now only to loose it all when its over then get real depressed.
Not saying that will happen but you do need a much better PCT plan in place.
Also, Needto has some good OTC supps for post cycle recovery.

yea i don't intend to only use clomid, it's just that as of right now it's all i have...with pct a minimum of 5 weeks away i think i got time to pimp it out.
my nuts haven't shrank at all...do you think i could get by without hcg? for some reason i don't want to use hcg unless i absolutley need it...

 

[GrownUp]

I never got any side effects from my first cycle, though it was a very mild one, 300mg test cypionate a week, I wish I would've went higher. Then again on my second cycle Test C 500mg a week + Dbol 30mg ED + Proviron 100mg ED and nothing, no side effects whatsoever, no sore nipples, libido went through the roof though, horny as hell all the damn time, ALL THE DAMN TIME! I think it is mostly about the person and if you are prone to this side effects, not really the Gear unless you're going up pretty high on your weekly dose. Now as far as PCT is concerned, I THINK, and this is just my opinion, if you go 15 weeks (long cycle), you might want to introduce Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) into the mix for about half your cycle @ 20mg per day, together with the Clomid 10 days after your last shot of Test E (half life of the ester). Other than that, isn't it beautiful to turn some heads around at the gym?? Secretly a lot of people say: I wish I could lift like that, I can't wait to get to that level, and sad to say most of them don't!

 

[binö]

I never got any side effects from my first cycle, though it was a very mild one, 300mg test cypionate a week, I wish I would've went higher. Then again on my second cycle Test C 500mg a week + Dbol 30mg ED + Proviron 100mg ED and nothing, no side effects whatsoever, no sore nipples, libido went through the roof though, horny as hell all the damn time, ALL THE DAMN TIME! I think it is mostly about the person and if you are prone to this side effects, not really the Gear unless you're going up pretty high on your weekly dose. Now as far as PCT is concerned, I THINK, and this is just my opinion, if you go 15 weeks (long cycle), you might want to introduce Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) into the mix for about half your cycle @ 20mg per day, together with the Clomid 10 days after your last shot of Test E (half life of the ester). Other than that, isn't it beautiful to turn some heads around at the gym?? Secretly a lot of people say: I wish I could lift like that, I can't wait to get to that level, and sad to say most of them don't!

i'm gonna be honest i wish i never hit the sauce.
I knew this shit was gonna happen, that i'd love it and the gym gains would be orgasmic.
but it's hella nice getting gym props.
gonna take a long time off, till next dec, to fully recover.
what's your take on the hcg? and any good tips on holding on to what i have gained?

 

[mrplunkey]

when do they happen?
my first cycle, in about week 7-8 of 1/2 gram of test e pw.
no sides, if i don't take an armidex dosage i feel a tingling in my nips...other than that nothing but kick ass effects.
killing it in the gym, almost bashful to lift in front of others cause i'm fukkin killin it so hard.
gaining poundages slowly...started off about 180 close to 200 currently solid as fuk low bodyfat proly 8-10ish.
i got enough test to run it for 15 weeks, i was thinking of doing this to maximize the gains i'm still making...good idea?
could the sides still happen?
and thinking about PCT, i got clomid and that's it so far...like to use some OTC compounds any suggestions?
thanks
discuss

I personally do 500 units of HCG/week (single shot) while cycling.

Then when I stop the test, 10 days after my last shot I'll take HCG. My HRT doc prescribes 10 daily shots in a row of 1,000 units/day but that's too much IMO. I'll either do 6 days in a row of 1,000 units/day or 10 days in a row of 500 units/day.

You need the HCG to jump-start your own production. And you'd be suprised -- 8-10 weeks is much easier to restart compared to a 15+ week cycle. Don't forget you're 32 years old (ancient, in j00ser years).

Also, about the time of your last shot, start taking 40mg/day (split into two doses) of SARMS-S4. I'd start Unleashed, Post-Cycle and SARMS-S4 and you'll extend the benefits of your cycle considerably. You'll lose some of that j00sy mental benefit, but you'll hold your gains and lean physique nicely.

 

[binö]

I personally do 500 units of HCG/week (single shot) while cycling.

Then when I stop the test, 10 days after my last shot I'll take HCG. My HRT doc prescribes 10 daily shots in a row of 1,000 units/day but that's too much IMO. I'll either do 6 days in a row of 1,000 units/day or 10 days in a row of 500 units/day.

You need the HCG to jump-start your own production. And you'd be suprised -- 8-10 weeks is much easier to restart compared to a 15+ week cycle. Don't forget you're 32 years old (ancient, in j00ser years).

Also, about the time of your last shot, start taking 40mg/day (split into two doses) of SARMS-S4. I'd start Unleashed, Post-Cycle and SARMS-S4 and you'll extend the benefits of your cycle considerably. You'll lose some of that j00sy mental benefit, but you'll hold your gains and lean physique nicely.

i was reading that bros added in the hcg during pct...since i haven't started hcg yet i guess that's what i'd have to do.
your opinion on the late hcg start?

 

[mrplunkey]

i was reading that bros added in the hcg during pct...since i haven't started hcg yet i guess that's what i'd have to do.
your opinion on the late hcg start?

A late HCG start would be no big problem -- especially since you aren't doing huge doses. Definitely use it for PCT though.,

My HRT doc was behind the curve on this one too. He's only recently been prescribing mid-cycle HCG. If you stick to the real vet's opinions of this board (I'm far from being a vet), you'll find they are a good 1-2 years in front of most endocrinologists when it comes to juicing.

 

[noodles]

yea i don't intend to only use clomid, it's just that as of right now it's all i have...with pct a minimum of 5 weeks away i think i got time to pimp it out.
my nuts haven't shrank at all...do you think i could get by without hcg? for some reason i don't want to use hcg unless i absolutley need it...

Your nuts may not have shrank but that doesnt mean you dont have any natural test shutdown.
The HCG will help you get your natural levels up much faster than any other drug I know of.
Maybe some guys on this board know a drug/product that is as effective as HCG; but as of right now I'm not aware anything more effective.
You can run the HCG midcycle as some have suggested or run it about 10 days - 14 days after your last Test E inject.
Also, get yourself some supps as suggested to keep your body at a high anabolic state (anti - estrogen) and for protection after your cycle ends.

 

[binö]

thanks bros

 

[GrownUp]

i'm gonna be honest i wish i never hit the sauce.
I knew this shit was gonna happen, that i'd love it and the gym gains would be orgasmic.
but it's hella nice getting gym props.
gonna take a long time off, till next dec, to fully recover.
what's your take on the hcg? and any good tips on holding on to what i have gained?

Yeah, well, my decision was to do 2 cycles in my lifetime, PERIOD!! That decision quickly changed to 3 when I got exactly what I wanted out of my cycles, now I know that with enough recovery (6 months or so) I can cycle for a good 10 years from now and then hit some HGH hell I probably will do HGH before that! For keeping your gains, which you will never fully keep, but can however keep most, I would say diet is very important, next to the obvious proper PCT, and yes I think HCG is important, even though your nuts haven't shrunk, it doesn't mean much, so if you're worried about keeping gains, this is what I do for PCT.

Clomid Therapy: Day 1: 300mg Week 1 (after day 1) 100mg ED, Week 2: 100mg ED, Week 3: 50mg ED. Starting after the half life of the longest ester you injected.
Nolvadex: 5 weeks of 20mg Starting the week after the end of the cycle.
HCG: 1000iu EOD X 8 (16 days)
Vitamin E: 1000iu ED

Keep hitting the gym, keep your diet and you should be fine man, good luck!