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Should mods practice the EF lifestyle?

68GT350

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Ideally, I would expect all our members, here to practice the "Elite Fitness Lifestyle." By "EF lifestyle", I mean a life that includes health, fitness, and possibly anabolic steroids.

Now I'm not saying that every member here should half to be a juicehead (especially some girls!) but I do think that members should at least go to the gym since they are a part of a board the centers around this topic.

Now with that said, my question to you members is:

Who thinks that the EF lifestyle should be a prerequisite in order to be a moderator? I'm not talkin about going once a month either...I'm talkin about a nice trim body and a decent set of muscles from rigorous training.


Maybe i'm out of line, but I don't want someone here running the show if they're all chubby and sittin here posting all day eating cheetohs.
 
There is no way to prove that they live the "lifestyle" without posting a picture. I do not feel it is right to force someone to post a picture of themselves on an open board just to be a moderator.
 
I hope everyone practices the Elite lifestyle, since without good health and attractive looks we would all be at a disadvantage.

Ryan.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:
There is no way to prove that they live the "lifestyle" without posting a picture. I do not feel it is right to force someone to post a picture of themselves on an open board just to be a moderator.

Why not? If you're unable to prove your physical prowess, then mod-ship shouldn't be an option then. How would you feel of having a 400lb. moderator? It would piss me off--even on the chat forum.

Besides, no one has to post a face....
 
RyanH said:
I hope everyone practices the Elite lifestyle, since without good health and attractive looks we would all be at a disadvantage.

Ryan.

Amen...but very neutral.
 
68GT350 said:


Why not? If you're unable to prove your physical prowess, then mod-ship shouldn't be an option then. How would you feel of having a 400lb. moderator? It would piss me off--even on the chat forum.

Besides, no one has to post a face....

so your saying i cant be a mod then?
 
68GT350 said:


Why not? If you're unable to prove your physical prowess, then mod-ship shouldn't be an option then. How would you feel of having a 400lb. moderator? It would piss me off--even on the chat forum.

Besides, no one has to post a face....

I agree that on the other boards, people should be living the lifestyle and have a great amount of knowledge. As for this board, there is no reason for them to prove they workout. I truely do not give a shit.

I will also say that just because a person has some size does not mean they know a great amount about AS, nutrition, etc. I know some huge mofos who are complete idiots. On the otherhand, I know a few people who are not that big, but are very knowledgeable in many aspects of this game.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:


I agree that on the other boards, people should be living the lifestyle and have a great amount of knowledge. As for this board, there is no reason for them to prove they workout. I truely do not give a shit.

I will also say that just because a person has some size does not mean they know a great amount about AS, nutrition, etc. I know some huge mofos who are complete idiots. On the otherhand, I know a few people who are not that big, but are very knowledgeable in many aspects of this game.

I only said that EF lifestyle be a prerequisite. That doesn't mean the person is qualified. Just look at Ryan. He goes to the gym and he's a poor moderator..
 
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68GT350 said:


I only said that EF lifestyle be a prerequisite. That doesn't mean the person is qualified. Just look at Ryan. He goes to the gym and he's definitely no candidate for moderator.

that's right...I'm no candidate....I am one of the moderators.

Ryan.
 
Some of us don;t really feel the need to prove anything to you or anyone else.

As far as lifestyle - I've met a handful of members from here and they would tell you that regarding fitness and appearance, I meet anyone's standards of achievement.

This is knowledge sharing. Photos and backgrounds are optional.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Some of us don;t really feel the need to prove anything to you or anyone else.

As far as lifestyle - I've met a handful of members from here and they would tell you that regarding fitness and appearance, I meet anyone's standards of achievement.

This is knowledge sharing. Photos and backgrounds are optional.

I knew someone would twist this into something negative and become defensive. I'm not asking anyone to prove anything to me, so get off your high-horse.

I'm only saying that I feel (MY OPINION) is that moderators should lead by example and embody the EF Lifestyle. Jesus Christ.
 
No one is on a high horse, and I am not defending anything.

Your thread lacks logic and I am telling you that....you thought you made a good point, and now I will show you its flaws.

1. This board was designed to allow for the exchange of knowledge. When 2Thick or Macro puts his knowledge out there, no one says "let me see a pic", because they build their credibility through their knowledge.

2. Members benefit from the knowledge without having to know about who is giving it. That's the beauty of the Internet: a guy who lives in California can help me even as I sit here in Fla.

3. No one pays us. Our knowledge and opinions of bodybuilding, AS and the other things we help out with is free to you, for the saking. Likewise, we value yours, and don;t give a shit what you look like.


time for me to smoke a little crack and finish off another St Ides. It;s what i need to top off all those chicken wings.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
No one is on a high horse, and I am not defending anything.

Your thread lacks logic and I am telling you that....you thought you made a good point, and now I will show you its flaws.

1. This board was designed to allow for the exchange of knowledge. When 2Thick or Macro puts his knowledge out there, no one says "let me see a pic", because they build their credibility through their knowledge.

2. Members benefit from the knowledge without having to know about who is giving it. That's the beauty of the Internet: a guy who lives in California can help me even as I sit here in Fla.

3. No one pays us. Our knowledge and opinions of bodybuilding, AS and the other things we help out with is free to you, for the saking. Likewise, we value yours, and don;t give a shit what you look like.


time for me to smoke a little crack and finish off another St Ides. It;s what i need to top off all those chicken wings.

You know what...to me, that is total bullshit. I believe that personal experience is the most important information in this field. Otherwise, everything that is posted, is strictly theory.

No one questions 2thick and Macro because they are longstanding members. BTW, I would like to see their pics, if they aren't posted. I really wonder if I should take thier information as bible...That's why I don't.

Sure you guys don't get paid, but there are certain benefits to being a moderator that can help both your financial situation, if used correctly (which I know people do), your respect status in the BB field, and you definitely get a "behind the scenes" look at this board. That, in itself is very valuable, IMO.

I don't know about you, but if that hypothetical guy in Fl. is sitting there weighing in at 400lbs. and is sending me info, I'd like to know. Maybe i'm stupid but I'd feel more comfortable knowing there's a musclehead who's been there and done that. He may be lying but at least I have something to go on...besides blind faith.

I still stand by my view.
 
hmmm..i'm stuck on this one. See for one i know alot of people who have great physiques yet have zero knowledge concerning training and nutrition. What they have is great genetics. While on the other hand we have some people who just can't seem to get it together, have trouble gaining weight or losing it yet they still have the knowledge it takes to answer our questions since they studied the field. Exercise, training and nutrition are all still sciences which can be taught but sure i do agree that it would make me feel better that someone on the other side answering me does workout and train and not necessarily have a good body.
 
Years ago I would have equated a good physique=knowledge but I dont most of the time these days.

Its like saying a great salesmen will make a great sales manager which is not the case most of the time.Or because Wayne Gretzky was one of the greatest hockey players of all time makes him the best choice as an olympic coach.

I will use myself as an example. I am a great salesmen(so they tell me) and I know I would be a good ceo, owner of a company because I can delegate well( I am very good at getting people to do stuff for me). But as a manager(salesor otherwise) I just suck. Yes there is a difference, a manager is like a coach in which he teaches you the ropes, like someone hiring a "Guru"/Coach in a sport. The owner or head of a company is a leader, he doesnt know every single thing about every aspect of a persons job, he just delegates(leads) what is to be done and what is expected from the mamagers who then "coach" their team to victory.

Basically a manager(coach) to me is someone who has specialized in one field. Now not necessarily have they succeeded in that field themselves but what they have done is specialized and studied what has worked best for others out there in real world situations and is able to take this knoweldge and help others apply it to whatever they are trying to achieve.

So yes even I do think someone who gives out bodybuilding or fitness related advice should actually exercise themselves, but at the same time because we all have different goals and genetics, the build should not judge the person.

Dan Duchaine, Will Brink, Lyle Macdonald and others come to mind as people with alot of knowledge in different aspects of exercise and nutrition that are well respected yet you could not scrape off more then a teaspoon of muscle between the 3 of them.
 
ok, this is how i see it. i have been over at meso for like 3 years, and even though there are no mods, we have vets. all of the vets there REALLY know their shit when it comes to training/diet/drugs/etc. They wouldn't be vets if they didnt know what they were talking about. I have only spoken to a handful of mods here, and for the most part, they knew what they were talking about...especially you guys at the anabolic forum...but i also met some mods who have their heads up their asses and don't know a god damn thing. I believe that a person should only be a mod if they really know their shit. we shouldnt have to have 'diversity' amongst the moderators here, they should only become a mod if they honestly know what they are doing. They shouldn't be a mod cause they have been here for a long time, are funny, hot, whatever...it should be the most qualified person for the job...and with that said, i think bouncer should be a mod.
 
and for those saying that they would have to post pics in order for the rest of us to know they were living 'the lifestyle.' that's bullshit. rarely does anyone post their pics on meso, they just contribute very informative posts, and give some REALLY helpful advice. They don't do it to become some 'special person' they just do it, cause they like to contribute something in a positive way. Just read some of the posts by johnsmith, james samuel damon, rootshell, vdc, etc. etc. none of them post their pics, they just show their credentials through the things they post.
 
I tend to agree with both Matt, and 68gt....I have met quite a few people from all the boards....all have been in VERY good shape, and lived up to their choosen lifestyle....

Ranger
 
June 1st in Plano texas at the Lone Star Classic you can all come down and see if I practice the "elite lifestyle"
 
From what I know, all the mods work out, including the female ones. Some don't post on the training boards much and that's fine.. I don't post on them that much either, and I assure you that I work out.

As far as taking steroids as a requirement of being a moderator, that is just stupid! You don't know what their goals are unless one of them tells you. Taking steroids just for the sake of doing a cycle is insane and dangerous!


BTW.

The day that becomes a requirement is the day I leave.
 
For the record, I never said AS be part of being a moderator unless you are a AS mod.

p0ink, how can you be certain if those guys dishing out advice really know what they're talking about? Why should someone who works out and obviously knows his/her shit NOT want to post thier pic!!! A nicely built body is made to be seen!
 
who said anything about steroids being a requirement? i just said the mods of the anabolic forum are some smart guys....:p
 
68GT350 said:
Ideally, I would expect all our members, here to practice the "Elite Fitness Lifestyle." By "EF lifestyle", I mean a life that includes health, fitness, and possibly anabolic steroids.

Now I'm not saying that every member here should half to be a juicehead (especially some girls!)


If I'm reading this right, you are not making a distinction between mods who work on the AS board and all others. Maybe you intended for there to be a distinction, but you didn't make one.
 
68GT350 said:
For the record, I never said AS be part of being a moderator unless you are a AS mod.

p0ink, how can you be certain if those guys dishing out advice really know what they're talking about? Why should someone who works out and obviously knows his/her shit NOT want to post thier pic!!! A nicely built body is made to be seen!

some of the guys hold masters in exercise science or physiology...one of the guys over there is a coach at the olympic training facility in colorado....some have degrees in bio and organic chemistry (Andy (at meso) aka Andy13 here)... i dont think pics are always a requirement to backup good knowledge. if their advice seems sound and they back it up with some references, i think it has alot of potential for being quality.
 
I, personally, think that SliceofPeach2 is the most informative moderator and she should be considered a martyr to us all.

Then we can slash her throat open and feast on her innards.
 
I'm just stating my opinion. If you want to take information from a 130lb. weakling or a 400lb. slob, be my guest. In my opinion, muscles don't mean everything but if some guy who doesn't use his own advice is cause for concern, IMO.
 
no no, i hear you 68 and i do agree with you, but im just saying sometimes pics arent always required to backup something they say. like if someone is posting half lives of shit, im not gonna need to ask them for a pic to prove they are right. im not flaming or anything, cause i do agree alot with you.
 
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