Sensitive Nips

[Cardinal Slin]

Please firstly understand that I live in a country where it is quite hard to come by most of the ancillaries. I have been on test for the last 3 weeks or so and have started getting a very sensitive right nipple. I have had this before many years back and gyno only seems to cause me problems to my right nipple, not my left. Test does not usually do this to me but it is this time around.

It is not that bad but I need to stop it before it gets any worse so have started taking 40mgs of nolvadex daily to stop further estrogen binding to the ER. I will continue taking this nolva for a week before dropping back to 20mgs daily for the rest of my cycle.

My question is that I do not have access to arimidex or any other form of ancillary at the moment but will shortly be obtaining some proviron. In any case, how do I go about getting rid of the estrogen that has already built up in my body so when I stop with the nolvadex I do not have a rebound effect?

Thanks

 

[Mavafanculo]

you can taper down the dose instead of stopping cold turkey when you've reduced the gyno which will help.

also, in leiu of actual AI's, you might try grape seed extract (any health food store) - studies have shown it acts as a natural AI - the vitaminshoppe store brand starts to give me aromatase inibitor sides at about 800- 1,000 mg daily in divided dose - you'll have to experiment

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Thank you Mavafanculo - do you by any chance know where I can read one or two of these studies?

Would you by any chance know if anyone has tried this before? I would doubt it as normal AI's are readily available over there and no one would risk gyno to experiment?

Many thanks

 

[bsdgeek]

the proviron will knock it out, best option if you can't get dex. also, what's your current dose? do like mava said, drop the dose until you get it under control, then ramp back up after you get your proviron. and if you get the proviron, you shouldn't have a rebound effect, just use the proviron throughout your cycle, then start your pct. which brings up another question, what have you got for your pct? just the nolva? or do you have hcg, aromasin etc etc?

interesting mava, i'd like to see that study as well.

 

[timtim]

the proviron will knock it out, best option if you can't get dex. also, what's your current dose? do like mava said, drop the dose until you get it under control, then ramp back up after you get your proviron. and if you get the proviron, you shouldn't have a rebound effect, just use the proviron throughout your cycle, then start your pct. which brings up another question, what have you got for your pct? just the nolva? or do you have hcg, aromasin etc etc?

interesting mava, i'd like to see that study as well.

proviron wont knock the gyno out. it could help but its not going to act like an ai.

 

[bsdgeek]

proviron wont knock the gyno out. it could help but its not going to act like an ai.

sure it acts as in very much the same way as an ai, read this:

http://mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/proviron.htm

and a little more research will only confirm this. the only problem is the it's dht based and the sides of losing hair often scare people away. my 2.

 

[bsdgeek]

it's also binds to shbg making test more potent. why anyone would cycle test only without it is beyond me. plus it's not as liver toxic as some compounds like winny and var. my 2 again.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Thanks everyone - i'm on 750mgs weekly of test. So would starting proviron in around a week (the earliest I can get it) counter the already existing estrogen in my body?

Thanks

 

[bsdgeek]

Thanks everyone - i'm on 750mgs weekly of test. So would starting proviron in around a week (the earliest I can get it) counter the already existing estrogen in my body?

Thanks

yep, it should, unless lumps have already formed, then surgery or some have had success with letro, that is, if you can get it. let us know how it helped. good luck bro.

 

[bsdgeek]

Thanks everyone - i'm on 750mgs weekly of test. So would starting proviron in around a week (the earliest I can get it) counter the already existing estrogen in my body?

Thanks

750 mg test per week, good lord son! are you going for the 'O'?

 

[timtim]

sure it acts as in very much the same way as an ai, read this:

http://mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/proviron.htm

and a little more research will only confirm this. the only problem is the it's dht based and the sides of losing hair often scare people away. my 2.

i had a different experience. i actually didnt find it to do much along the lines of an ai. it hardened me up a bit but the estrogenic effect was minimal.

 

[ALIN]

Please firstly understand that I live in a country where it is quite hard to come by most of the ancillaries. I have been on test for the last 3 weeks or so and have started getting a very sensitive right nipple. I have had this before many years back and gyno only seems to cause me problems to my right nipple, not my left. Test does not usually do this to me but it is this time around.

It is not that bad but I need to stop it before it gets any worse so have started taking 40mgs of nolvadex daily to stop further estrogen binding to the ER. I will continue taking this nolva for a week before dropping back to 20mgs daily for the rest of my cycle.

My question is that I do not have access to arimidex or any other form of ancillary at the moment but will shortly be obtaining some proviron. In any case, how do I go about getting rid of the estrogen that has already built up in my body so when I stop with the nolvadex I do not have a rebound effect?

Thanks

just some good advice friend.
always run a small amount of AI with all androgenic cycles to PREVENT these problems from occuring.
Now i would get some NOLVA and run at 40-60mg UNTIL SYMPTOMS reside.
Nolva/Proviron make a good ANTI e stack