Second cycle advice

[omnitrix]

Hey guys.
Second cycle for me, first was:
WK 1-12 > Test E @ 300mg EOD
WK 1-4 > Dbol @ 40mg a week

PCT:
100mg clomid for 2 weeks and 50mg the next 2 weeks
20mg nolva for 4 weeks

That was it. Didn't favour the dbol, didn't really see much muscle gains off the stuff. Perhaps it was undercoated or bunk, source is good so hoping it was the first option. Test e was great. Felt the affects after about a month or so and after that weight flew on as did the muscle
Kept about 15-20lbs of lean muscle on my first cycle. And all lifts were up about 15-20kg.

So my second cycle. I want to try Tren acetate.
I've heard too much about it, both good and bad. I want to to try it for myself and see what the fuss is about. I've heard of phenomenal strength and lean muscle gains. Along with no water retention which is great so I won't be expecting to deflate as other compounds require.

My cycle plan (need your advice guys please) :
WK 1-12 > Test E @ 800mg (400mg Monday, 400mg Thursday)
WK 5-10 > Tren A @ 150mg E3D (50mg Sunday, 50mg Tuesday, 50mg Thursday)
PRE WORKOUT > Halo @ 10mg

PCT:
Clomid @ 100mg for 2 weeks
Clomid @ 50mg 2 weeks after
Nolva @ 20mg for 4 weeks

On hand:
Liv 52 and vit c enriched milk thistle tabs
Cabergoline
Arimidex
Obviously pct kit aswell

My questions:

1) How does the cycle look?
2) Cabergoline, how much to use and when
3) Test needs to be run longer than Tren?)
4) Tren dosage and frequency okay?

Thanks for help. If I've missed anything. Let me know.

Cheers guys.

 

[dylangemelli]

Hey guys.
Second cycle for me, first was:
WK 1-12 > Test E @ 300mg EOD
WK 1-4 > Dbol @ 40mg a week

PCT:
100mg clomid for 2 weeks and 50mg the next 2 weeks
20mg nolva for 4 weeks

That was it. Didn't favour the dbol, didn't really see much muscle gains off the stuff. Perhaps it was undercoated or bunk, source is good so hoping it was the first option. Test e was great. Felt the affects after about a month or so and after that weight flew on as did the muscle
Kept about 15-20lbs of lean muscle on my first cycle. And all lifts were up about 15-20kg.

So my second cycle. I want to try Tren acetate.
I've heard too much about it, both good and bad. I want to to try it for myself and see what the fuss is about. I've heard of phenomenal strength and lean muscle gains. Along with no water retention which is great so I won't be expecting to deflate as other compounds require.

My cycle plan (need your advice guys please) :
WK 1-12 > Test E @ 800mg (400mg Monday, 400mg Thursday)
WK 5-10 > Tren A @ 150mg E3D (50mg Sunday, 50mg Tuesday, 50mg Thursday)
PRE WORKOUT > Halo @ 10mg

PCT:
Clomid @ 100mg for 2 weeks
Clomid @ 50mg 2 weeks after
Nolva @ 20mg for 4 weeks

On hand:
Liv 52 and vit c enriched milk thistle tabs
Cabergoline
Arimidex
Obviously pct kit aswell

My questions:

1) How does the cycle look?
2) Cabergoline, how much to use and when
3) Test needs to be run longer than Tren?)
4) Tren dosage and frequency okay?

Thanks for help. If I've missed anything. Let me know.

Cheers guys.

the cycle doesn't look very good bro... your tren dosage is way off and your running test way too high man... especially with tren and never having ran it before... you are going to have some really bad sides... i really would not run halo with this being your first time running tren either... you are asking for so may different problems here... your pct is terrible... doses are way off and you don't want to use nolva with a nandrolone... i would run test prop with tren ace on this cycle... here's how to run this...

1-10 test prop 75-100 mg eod
1-6 tren ace 75 mg eod
1-10 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 caber .5 mg e3d
1-6 n2guard
5-8 hcgenerate es
9-10 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 11-14

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
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[omnitrix]

Okay. Thanks for your reply man. Appreciate it!
So 75mg in total for the tren, 25mg every 3 days?
I'm not keen on having to pin every other day as a pose to pinning every 3 days with test e? Surely if my test levels have increased from starting from week 1, by week 4 won't test e be enough to combat libido and test reducing issues that tren has? And the long ester prolong the side effects way past my actual tren injection period?

And also I see a lot of supplements in regards to pct and everything. Or rebranding at least. That's confused me lol
Could you provide the trade names of the products as a pose to their brand names? That would help me a lot being able to study the cycle you recommended for me.

Thanks

 

[dylangemelli]

Okay. Thanks for your reply man. Appreciate it!
So 75mg in total for the tren, 25mg every 3 days?
I'm not keen on having to pin every other day as a pose to pinning every 3 days with test e? Surely if my test levels have increased from starting from week 1, by week 4 won't test e be enough to combat libido and test reducing issues that tren has? And the long ester prolong the side effects way past my actual tren injection period?

And also I see a lot of supplements in regards to pct and everything. Or rebranding at least. That's confused me lol
Could you provide the trade names of the products as a pose to their brand names? That would help me a lot being able to study the cycle you recommended for me.

Thanks

your misunderstanding... you need to pin tren ace AT LEAST every other day... thats 75 mg eod... most guys pin it every day... as far as test combating shutdown, once again, your misunderstanding... test further shuts you down... thats why you want to run it lower than tren... hcgenerate es is going to help you to combat on cycle shutdown... you can't pin the tren ace ester every 3 days... you don't want to run the longer estered tren for your first time... you either have to man up and do the pinning or not run it... you should run test prop with it as i laid it out... pin them together every other day...

for pct, the websites are listed where you can find the products right next to it bro... there is no rebranding... those are the products to use and where to find them...

 

[omnitrix]

Ah. I see.. But that's what I had in my cycle. Only 50mg EOD and not 75mg EOD. 75mg is what I see and hear, a good novice dosage for first time. And so, that seems fine to me
And yeah man, I see that they aren't rebranded. Just I'm from the UK and I'm not really interested in buying any supplements, I just came for some advice. To get the right pct and get the right tools for the job

What I meant is. Pinning tren and prop is a lot to pump into you. Pip.. Etc. Is there any other test esters that work well with tren?

 

[omnitrix]

Sorry :/

BUMP.

 

[RickRock13]

The test ester you use doesn't matter in the grand scope of things. Just do 100 EOD of Test P and 75 EOD of Tren A. That's less than 2 CCs of oil if your concentration is the standard 100mg/ml. You can use Test E or C at 350 a week as well and just pin 175mg twice a week. Doesn't really matter.

Make sure you get your PCT lined out. Dylan has a great PCT plan laid out. Use that, and you can get Phytoserms on discount through the thread in my signature

Any questions, just send me a PM bro

 

[dylangemelli]

Ah. I see.. But that's what I had in my cycle. Only 50mg EOD and not 75mg EOD. 75mg is what I see and hear, a good novice dosage for first time. And so, that seems fine to me
And yeah man, I see that they aren't rebranded. Just I'm from the UK and I'm not really interested in buying any supplements, I just came for some advice. To get the right pct and get the right tools for the job

What I meant is. Pinning tren and prop is a lot to pump into you. Pip.. Etc. Is there any other test esters that work well with tren?

everything I gave you IS THE RIGHT "tools for the job" You NEED supplements when you run a cycle, ESPECIALLY a cycle of tren... You came for advice and you got the best advice you are going to find anywhere... What does being in the UK have to do with anything? Does that mean that because your there you don't need to run a cycle properly? You can get a lot of those products at predator nutrition, otherwise, n2bm.com ships right to you... You need an extensive pct and you need supports on your cycle, UNLESS you want to cause yourself damage and have long term problems, then don't use anything... Just run the cycle without the proper set up and you can get all of that bro...

 

[omnitrix]

No doubt but what's the alterative to those supplements?
I'm not buying supplements unless it's natural test boosters in which case, I got my local supplement store for that.
Liv 52 no problem, test boosters no problem, vitamin c not a problem..

Apart from that, what am I missing?
Can't show my appreciation enough for your support pal, really appreciate it.