Scotsman update on the Bubukittyfuck quest.

[Deleted member 33117]

Well last night was interesting. I did in fact get her to watch Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back last night....

Now as far as finding out where I stand with her its a bit complicated but workable. I talked to Amber about how I feela bout her graduating in december, and possibly moving when she gets a job, and let her know what I think about her in general, however I did not push for a commitment of any type... just wanted her to know how I felt and what I was thinking... and wnated to know what was going on with her. We talked last night, then online for about an hour before goingto bed at about 2 am.

She got out of a long term relationship 6 months ago... and is not ready to commit to anyone yet (she had thought she might be ready but for the past 2 weeks she has been thinking about it alot). However she said she thinks I am a wonderful guy... and she does not want to stop seeing me. She wants to continue to hang out, and talk with me and just see what happens. She said that she does not know when she is going to be ready for certain to be in a relationship with anyone... but could see herself potentially in something long-term with me... I told her I could live with that. and that I understand. That until she knew what she wanted I was willing to continue a friendship with her, and see her casually. Of course we talked about alot of other things... but that is the part signifigant to the quest you assigned me orb.

 

[Smurfy]

did ya get laid??

 

[Deleted member 33117]

did ya get laid??

No.... the conversation did not turn to sex until after we all got home and I got online... when she mentioned that my friend Richard "really needs to get laid." (he is a lurker on EF with only a few posts...Richard you catch that... even the girls notice this... do something about it!)

It was a double date at my friend Colleen's house. We cooked spegetti, ate and watched 3 movies.... and doube Richard would have been up for everyone screwing there at the same time even if it was suggested... that boy is wound up so tight you couldn't pull a pencil out of his ass with a tractor.

 

[jerseyart]

Leave a little slack in the line bro, and she will hook herself.

Good luck

 

[gonelifting]

It`s OK bro. You will be band soon.

lol jk Well it`s good to know where you stand. It`s refreshing... Good luck with it. If you think she`s the one, WORK for it bro. Don`t let her get away that easily. Shit like this does`nt come knocking on your door. (except call girls)

 

[Smurfy]

http://dickcream.com/history/0611/

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Leave a little slack in the line bro, and she will hook herself.

Good luck

Yeah I did. She has already told 2 other girls what she thinks of me and it got back too me. One of them (since her and alot of my friends chat in yahoo) logged the entire conversation and e-mailed it to me when they talked about me.

I let her know that I am interested... but agreed to be her friend in the mean time. I've backed down a bit this week anyways. Probably all I need to do at this point is start dating other girls again casually to bait her.

 

[jerseyart]

Dude, you haven't slept with her yet?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

It`s OK bro. You will be band soon.

lol jk Well it`s good to know where you stand. It`s refreshing... Good luck with it. If you think she`s the one, WORK for it bro. Don`t let her get away that easily. Shit like this does`nt come knocking on your door. (except call girls)

My instincts told me she was the one the first day I met her. So no I have no intention of letting her get away... because I readize exactally what you are saying about "shit likethis doesn't come knocking on your door." In fact my freind Colleen (one who sent me the log of their conversation) I told the other day "I don't get chances like this... to be with someone special... so I am willing to do whatever it takes to keep from fucking this up." I just have to play my cards very carefully and play it very cool and not do anything without thinking it through.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Dude, you haven't slept with her yet?

Dude that is the 3rd time I heard this in 24 hours. LoL One of my old fuck buddies called me up and said that same thing yesterday morning "Oh my god...you haven't fuck her yet? You? Jason... I never thought you would give a girl a second date if she didn't put out... what happened to you? <laugh>"

Same shit from my best friend. "Dude... you have been dating this girl close to a month... and you haven't tapped that ass yet? You are slipping man...."

 

[jerseyart]

Dude,

I'm not talking about impressing your buds.

You are on the fast track towards friendship with this chick. Trust me bro. You may already be there

 

[jerseyart]

Listen young orb,

Its nice and romantic what you are trying to do. No one is a bigger romantic than me, I'm the biggest puss around.

But that doesn't mean you can't show her that you're a guy. Men always think that women want them to be women. If she wanted to date a girl she sounds more than hot enough to find one.

Don't listen to what they say to you. Most girlks have no clue what they want. They want a "nice guy" but they really want some guy that's going to rock their world. Too much romance and sweetness and you are going to end up her friend. Show her some passion and desire, because she has wants to know that you are going to give her the most intense sex she's ever had.

 

[B0ARDIN087]

Dude,

I'm not talking about impressing your buds.

You are on the fast track towards friendship with this chick. Trust me bro. You may already be there

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Dude,

I'm not talking about impressing your buds.

You are on the fast track towards friendship with this chick. Trust me bro. You may already be there

Impressing my buds? Well I don't care what Amanda thinks she is lucky I even answered the phone when she called. As for my best friend, having sex with one more girl is not goign to impress him... he wa just giving me a hard time.

Now, by friendship do you mean that in a good or a bad way. Good as in it cuold turn into more fast... or friendship as in I am screwed? I try to listen to older guys like you... more input here bro. Let's analyze this.

 

[BonerBoy]

Dude that is the 3rd time I heard this in 24 hours. LoL One of my old fuck buddies called me up and said that same thing yesterday morning "Oh my god...you haven't fuck her yet? You? Jason... I never thought you would give a girl a second date if she didn't put out... what happened to you? <laugh>"

Same shit from my best friend. "Dude... you have been dating this girl close to a month... and you haven't tapped that ass yet? You are slipping man...."

You ever think maybe someone Im'ed her about fbc and the penis pics???

sounds like the work of a some cockblocker

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Ok so you are saying the best thing I can do it is try to go ahead and fuck her?

 

[jerseyart]

What I'm saying is that what you think girls want, and what they want, is different.

Girls don't want to feel used ie: "he's just looking for a hole to poke" well, most normal girls anyway

Guys take that to mean they need to pretend to be asexual beings, passionless little good boys who don't want to slam her down on the bed, tear her clothes to shreds, and do bad bad things to her

You can show respect for her, and at the same time show her that being with you would be the most intense, incredible, passionate sex she will ever experience. If you do it right, the chick will be wanting to hang off your arm wherever you go. You cna actually tell which broly is hitting it well by the way the girl acts around him whent hey are out.

To girls most guys are just average. A sea of mediocrity. They want someone who stands out, who is a little different and unique. Their perspective is different than a guys. A woman knows she can "have" a guy if that was all she wanted. So she is a more selective consumer by that alone, and by biology as well. Most guys would happily diddle any willing average girl that came along. So why should she pick you?

You're trying to win her heart, and that's sweet. And I'm not saying you should stop doing so. But if you want to win her, you have to hit her instinctually. Women are incredibly sexual beings. In many ways much more so than men, just different. She wants a man that will have her panting for him, even though she will tell you and her friends she wants a "nice kind sincere guy"It isn't that she doesn';t want the latter, she does. But she'll end up with the guy who makes her feel the first way every time, because her biology and passion are drawing her to that, and her reason finds ways to justify the lack elsewhere

 

[gonelifting]

I`m convinced BBF is a robot.

Also, good advice from jersey. I agree.

BBF, I can`t believe you did`nt deliver the mail yet?

 

[BonerBoy]

yep being intimate changes everything, you'l know everythings alright the next time you see her afterwards and she hits you playfully and says something cute like "you made me sore' and comes in for the hug

dont wait to long orb

 

[awittyusername]

Listen young orb,

Its nice and romantic what you are trying to do. No one is a bigger romantic than me, I'm the biggest puss around.

But that doesn't mean you can't show her that you're a guy. Men always think that women want them to be women. If she wanted to date a girl she sounds more than hot enough to find one.

Don't listen to what they say to you. Most girlks have no clue what they want. They want a "nice guy" but they really want some guy that's going to rock their world. Too much romance and sweetness and you are going to end up her friend. Show her some passion and desire, because she has wants to know that you are going to give her the most intense sex she's ever had.

I have to say it JA is one smart mofo. Of course, this knowledge comes w/age and experiance. So, you youngster should listen. Don't follow you instincts or do what you think women want.

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

You are on the fast track towards friendship with this chick. Trust me bro. You may already be there

I know nada about all this, but from your story, it doesn't sound good.....

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Thanks for the input guys. Just got off the phone with my friend Shannon. He is 35 and married... his advice was multi-fold.

1) Use Colleen to be advantage. She needs to tell Amber that there are other girls interested in dating me... and I am kind of holding off on them.. but am not going to wait on her forever. She needs to know she has competition, and if she doesn't move fast, someone else will get me. I need to look desirable... and now. He said she knows she has me where she wants me so she can take her time.

2) I need to not imply, but make SURE she knows that while we are casual right now, I would be interested in something serious immediately with her.

3) He said if I can get a chance to fuck her... go for it... fuck her brains out (Like JA said) like I do all of my fuckbuddies who are still looking me up months down the road. He said once that happens, if she is already thinks I am great, knows she could lose me to another girl at any moment if she doesn't act, and if I give her good sex, that will pretty much seal the deal. He says I won't be able to get rid of her.

 

[BonerBoy]

3) He said if I can get a chance to fuck her... go for it... fuck her brains out (Like JA said) like I do all of my fuckbuddies who are still looking me up months down the road.

lol, when you say shit like this it makes me question whether you're a stud or a pud

"like I do all of my fuckbuddies who are still looking me up months down the road"

 

[jerseyart]

BBF,

Be careful of two faced friends. The girl who is helping you especially. Those kind of people generally have mouths that run both ways. Understand? Plus never trust a girl to do your work with other girls. They have their own agendas that often you don't know

I cant tell you how many times I've found out chicks were telling other chicks I was sleeping with them when I wasn't. You think they're your friends, and they spend the whole time eliminating other suitors.

All you need to remember is no challenge=no interest with a girl. If she thinks she has you too soon, then you become just one of a long line of clowns looking to worship at her alter.

Frankly bro, I like you, and don't wish to discourage you, but you already seem a little late. Her treatment of you as you describe it to date reeks of "nice guy, no real sparks"

With these things everything is timing. My friends laugh because when we are out we can be in the middle of an intense conversation, and as soon as someone interesting comes by/walks in, I would drop everything and was moving towards her. But what I knew that they didn't (and dont tell them) is that a woman is often blwon away by that kind of spontaneous quick response. If she sees you checking her out for ten minutes, then approaching her, you reek of puss and insecure. When you drop everything and are their within seconds of making eye contact, it shows confidence and security, which they find irresistable.

The same thing with making a move. You already waited too long. Its gonna be hard to regain that, and frankly I don't know what to tell you. Don't push the "other people" too much. I have a feeling that will backfire on you. You may not have enough interest to date, and she may not even be thinking of you that way at this point.. You need something different, some way to spark her passion, and show that side of yourself. If I think of something I will post it, but I never waited this long, so I don't knwo what to tell you

 

[Deleted member 33117]

JA, I have never waited this long also. Oh Colleen has her own agenda. I can't use her at all now... i am trying to step things up with Richard and her to make sure she does not fuck this up for me. She is looking at me as a potential guy for her... Shannon and I looked at that tonight. The plan now is to work her own my own but not have Colleen know what is really going on. Colleen told me today also (we were both in Houston for different reasons, and she and I got together and talked to Shannon at his place tonight) that Amber is not ready for any type of commitment in her opinion, and I should take up some of the offers for sex I've been getting... get laid, enjoy myself, etc.

Shannon and I hve a plan. I have one ace left up my sleeve with Amber.

 

[Smurfy]

wow. you make relationships seem like rocket science. is it supposed to be this intricate and involved?

 

[Smurfy]

http://dickcream.com/history/0611/
you guys obviously missed this the 1st time i posted

 

[jerseyart]

Yeah see, the "see other girls" things is her way of saying the other girl has limited or less interest without hurting your feelings. Don't let it get you down, that need not be permanent. But it is the state of affairs right now, and you need to understand what you are working with bro.

Here's the thing. I only really know how to be me. And what works for me wouldn't work for the next guy and vice versa. But there are certain realities about human interaction that can help you along the way. Shit, people I like are gonna read this and take it the wrong way.

Women are attracted to dominance=power=confidence=some arrogance=self assurance. Its how you need to relate to them, not to manipulate them, or take advantage, but to spark interest and desire.

Girls understand what we want. They play off of it all the time. They bait you with sexuality and push our buttons.

We're simple.

Women are different. See you talk about trying to make her jealous. And you're sort of right, but don't do it now. Women are nest builders, men aren't. Our biology is just simply to spread our genes as much as possible. Women think differently. Instinctively they are searching for the best possible provider for their offspring.

Practically this means that when they see other women taking an interest in a man they are intrigued, because they understand instinctively that the other women are using the same criteria as they are. If that male is attractive to other women, then there must be something about him that makes him a good prospect. They trust each others judgement on some level. Men are just worried that when another man shows interest he's going to screw the girl, interfering with our ability to spread our genes. Women care about that, but they are more afraid of losing the emotional ties to the man, which is what keeps him around to provide for the family.

Thats why no guy feels comforted by the fact that she didn't love the other guy, that it was just a sex thing. It's the last thing we want to hear.

Brings us back to the following. Your "dominance" is what attracts her. Its the same with them as their sexuality is with us. Its one of the reasons why so many women love muscular men. The strength is a sign of dominance. Its why women don't like short guys.

When you allow her to dominate, which is what you have done by trying to be sweet and considerate, you robbed yourself of what most attracts her.

When you interact with women on a sexual level, you need to exude that dominance. You need to tell her what to think. Tell her the thoughts you have about her sexually, but say it as if it is inevitable. Tell her what you are going to do with her, don't be embarassed. Act like you already know you are going to be tapping that booty, your just informing her of your decision Does that make sense? Can you do that without reading "rapiist"?

Let her see the lust (not perversion) in your eyes that you have for her. Let her feel the passion. Let her feel your intensity and feed off of it. She should hear it in your voice, in the way your breathe quickens slightly when you tell her what you are going to be doing later. Show her by the way you stroke her arm, or her hair, or caress her face. Be bold, because bold to her communicates an intense sexual experience.

A guy like you, with those muscles, should have an easy time of it. Imagine a skinny short guy

 

[Smurfy]

ok that was really long but all I can say is 2 words come to mind: Dr. Phil

 

[jerseyart]

Smurfy?

Are you saying I need therapy?

Well duh

 

[Deleted member 33117]

JA, I fully understand the last post... but I ma not sure how to apply that to my current situation. That sort of thing has worked well in the past for obtaining sex... but I can't seem to make it work to get into a relationship. Honestly I have had ONE girlfriend, dispite sleeping with around 60 women in the last 4 years. And even taht girlfriend I was having sex with off and on for a year before I ever took her on a date. Girls I date... are never interested in a relationship... and actually witht he exception of a couple of girls I did NOT want to be with, none of the one's I have slept with seemed to want one with me either. I'm in the situation where I find it very easy to have sex, but not to get a commitment, or even find girls I would really want to commit too... but am at the point in my life where I am lookign to settle down. The more I feel that way the more offers I seem to get for casual sex.

Of course we are all familiar with this trend. Men who are attached, or just get married, as I hear from many, seem to get pussy thrown at them. While the guys who are desperate for a piece of ass do not seem to get any, but have girls who want them to commit to them.

Perhaps I should chance gears and just start chasing pussy, and focus on just sex (and forget about relationships for awhile) so that 15 girls will want to hook up with me for a relationship and I can just pick the best one. LoL

 

[Smurfy]

no. what im saying is, do you charge extra for family sessions

 

[jerseyart]

Smurf: Don't make fun of me!!
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Dude: Your communicating something that's saying no good as a long term prospect.

I had a friend like that. The fucker was GQ good looking, and stacked to boot. He was everything any girl would want till he opened his mouth. His fucking constant Donald Duck imporessions alone were enough to drive girls away He's a dumb bastard, but a good bro.

I don't know you, so I don't know what it is. Who will know is every one of your female friends. Ask them to be honest, and give them the leeway to understand they are trying to help when they offer criticism. Don't get defensive, because they'll clam up. We all have faults, just accept that you do, and learn what they are.

 

[awittyusername]

but am at the point in my life where I am lookign to settle down.

Bro, I don't know you. But, I would definatly wager that you are not ready to settle down. I assume you are in your mid twentys. Alot, of my friends thought they were ready at this age. They are all divorced w/kids now.

You are a possible fitness model and in college to be chiropractor. I figure you have about 73 more girls and 12 more strippers to have sex w/before you are ready. I understand you are good looking and have chicks throwing themselves at you. But, it will be 10 times more when you grad and are pulling 6 figures. Trust me, It is a magnet for pussy. Some of my friends got married in their mid 20's had a great wife and kids. But, after working hard to make $ they had girls throwing themselves at them. They found it harder to say no when they had been w/the same girl for say 7yrs who had a couple of kids, maybe gained a few lbs. It is very hard on the kids.

Also, you have said you are in therapy for childhood issues. First off, good for you. It has to be hard to tackle issues like that. But, before settling down w/some who may be ready. Make sure you have the past issues solved for both of your sakes.

P.S. don't let people always asking you "when are you going to settle down?" bother you. I hear it all the time from family and married people.
Good luck

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Awittyusername- Actually its not a chiropractor.. I am a dual major in nutritional science and psychology, and plan on specializing in the treatment of eating disorders, but that is ok... still can make 6 figures. Other than that, yes you are on target.

Anywho 73 more girls? That would put me a bit over 130 sex partners... that is a bit much... LoL

Perhaps alot of it is because the grass is greener on the other side. I have only had one girlfriend, as I already said, but fuck buddies and one night stands are just not fullfilling... yes the sex is nice at the moment, and I have a very active libido... however there is something missing with all of it... I guess I am just tired of this and want someone worthwhile, who loves me for who I am, to share my life with.

 

[awittyusername]

Anywho 73 more girls? That would put me a bit over 130 sex partners... that is a bit much... LoL

Yes, that is alot. But, I will tell you what I told the jackass's at my gym that tell any girl that may like me not to go out w/me, because I have been w/alotgirls and had 3somes etc. I finally told them "Do you know the only difference between a guy that has sex w/alot of girls, 3somes,etc and the guy that doesnt?????????? One guy CAN and the other CAN'T.

And, you are a guy that can. So, just make absolutly sure you are ready.

 

[BonerBoy]

Yes, that is alot. But, I will tell you what I told the jackass's at my gym that tell any girl that may like me not to go out w/me, because I have been w/alotgirls and had 3somes etc. I finally told them "Do you know the only difference between a guy that has sex w/alot of girls, 3somes,etc and the guy that doesnt?????????? One guy CAN and the other CAN'T.

And, you are a guy that can. So, just make absolutly sure you are ready.

lol, have you read any of his posts at all?

hes been with 60 girls in the last 4 yrs and none want to be with him

"Girls I date... are never interested in a relationship... and actually witht he exception of a couple of girls I did NOT want to be with, none of the one's I have slept with seemed to want one with me either."

I mean no offense to anyone on this thread but any male or female thats been humped and dumped 60 times either has a serious personality flaw or halitosis(sp)

 

[BonerBoy]

http://dickcream.com/history/0611/
you guys obviously missed this the 1st time i posted

No I seen it I laughed my ass off, the ho is hot

just got caught up the thread and forgot to reply

 

[jerseyart]

Yes, that is alot. But, I will tell you what I told the jackass's at my gym that tell any girl that may like me not to go out w/me, because I have been w/alotgirls and had 3somes etc. I finally told them "Do you know the only difference between a guy that has sex w/alot of girls, 3somes,etc and the guy that doesnt?????????? One guy CAN and the other CAN'T.

And, you are a guy that can. So, just make absolutly sure you are ready.

LOL, and they're clueless as well

When I was in back in college one day I was in the cafeteria and needed some salt. Our table didn't have any, so I go up and began walking to another table to grab a shaker. It was a table full of girls and before I got within 5 feet one of the chicks yells something out so that everyone in the cafeteria could hear, along the lines of "Here he comes, he thinks he's gods gift to women, I cant wait to hear this one" Not an exact quote, which I no longer remember, but it communicates the sentiment. So everyone in the caf laughs, the guys hoot, whatever. I walk up and just say "What he wants is just the salt, but I'll be back if I get hungry for anything else"I threw in a little tongue wiggle to accentuate the point. Real loud. Now the whole fucking place is screaming.

Anyway, my friends back at the table are all like "ah you busted, all the girls know you're a dog, never get any etc etc etc" And I think its funny because I would have paid the bitch to do that, because even then I know girls find nothing more irrestsitable than a guy the other girls can't tie down

Do your thing bro

 

[jh1]

stop trying to be her friend.... unless that is what you want...

sounds to me like you want to be her lover... you had better do it quick or you will be stuck in friend mode forever... doesn't mean you have to be a dick... but you are a guy and let her know...

 

[jerseyart]

Awittyusername- Actually its not a chiropractor.. I am a dual major in nutritional science and psychology, and plan on specializing in the treatment of eating disorders, but that is ok... still can make 6 figures. Other than that, yes you are on target.

Anywho 73 more girls? That would put me a bit over 130 sex partners... that is a bit much... LoL

Perhaps alot of it is because the grass is greener on the other side. I have only had one girlfriend, as I already said, but fuck buddies and one night stands are just not fullfilling... yes the sex is nice at the moment, and I have a very active libido... however there is something missing with all of it... I guess I am just tired of this and want someone worthwhile, who loves me for who I am, to share my life with.

Don't listen to old jaded bastards BBF.

You go out there and win you your girl. If she's the one in a million that makes your body weak, that literally makes your heart burn in your chest for love of her, that makes you dizzy at the thought of her, that makes the back of your neck heat and burn, that makes you ache to touch her, then don't let her get away.

Forget the games, forget the rivals, just go get her. Tell her everything she makes you feel for her. Beg if you have to, but don't let her get away without a fight.

The rest of the nonsense will just eat you up, and steal a piece of you each time. All you're missing is 1000 promises of " I can do (insert sexual act, usually bj) better than anyone" , to the point if you hear it one more time you will puke, and every one of them begins to look and sound exactly the same, at least as far as your concerned.

Don't be a performing monkey.

 

[Scotsman]

Sorry I just saw this. Was laid up since last thursday with a back injury. Anyway BBF I pm'd you instead of answering here.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Dougly]

Boo Boo

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

lol, when you say shit like this it makes me question whether you're a stud or a pud

"like I do all of my fuckbuddies who are still looking me up months down the road"