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running winny 12 weeks and eq for...
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bigerisbetter
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IMO 17aa are not exagerated by any means. You want to keep your body as healthy as possible and I dont think 24 weeks of 17aa is going to get this done. I would say 8weeks winny is max depending on dose.
bigAragorn
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syd black said:
i would try something like 3 weeks on 3 weeks off and then repeat throughout the duration of the cycle......i cant remember who ran something like this but they liked it. Myself personally have run winny 3 weeks then switched to fina 3 weeks and then back to winny and so on untill 12 weeks was over making sure i finished with the winny as opposed to fina and i got fuckin massive!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigAragorn
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bro i was on winny and fina a total of 6 weeks each which is more than fine and i staggered the total to 2 sets of 3weeks. But 12 weeks straight of winny thats pretty harsh......and then 12 weeks of fina........my first time on fina i planned on running it 6 weeks i ended up running it 12 and it was the WORST mistake i ever made ( but i didnt have alot of ancillaries to combat sides while i was taking it i.e r-ala and the like, cranberry extract, etc.) i guess FONZ would be the best guy to talk to if you are gonna run those drugs for so long.
winstrol and 5+ weeks use
Seriously, man...winny for more than 6 weeks is some serious use that most people will strongly advise against. Besides, if your not doing something about hair loss, it would be my guess that you'll be looking into the mirror and want to start by the end of 12 weeks on winny.
Seriously, man...winny for more than 6 weeks is some serious use that most people will strongly advise against. Besides, if your not doing something about hair loss, it would be my guess that you'll be looking into the mirror and want to start by the end of 12 weeks on winny.
TheRide
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syd black said:
I think your joints will be shot and your HDL will be non-existent, your hair will be gon and your liver will shivel up and die..... Just my .02 but I'd hit the winny for 6 wks if your doing ED or maybe 8 for EOD. I also have seen some people get good results w/5 days on and 2 off on an 6-8 week cycle.
EQ for 24 weeks? That's 6 months on?!?!?! I wouldn't do it... I like 10-12. BTW, how many mg/weeks??
bigerisbetter
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what does are you planning on running?
SofaGeorge
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I've been running whinny for about 8 weeks at 100 mg ED (oral) with 100 mg nandrolone phenylpropionate EOD, 100 mg test phenylpropionate, and 100 mg test propionate. I'll be running the whinny for 4 more weeks then getting blood tests.
Last summer I was at about 240 lbs... and posted heavily about taking my size down significantly (holding in the 205-208 lbs range for a few months at 4-5% b/f.)
I've been on a pretty much endless cycle since then to bring my size back up and just hit 242 lbs today. I've been very surprised that in taking my size back up I've been able to do it at a lower b/f percentage. (Probably at least 3 percentage points. I won't know for sure till I get retested.)
This is the second time I've done a long whinny stretch this cycle and so far no liver problems.
Last summer I was at about 240 lbs... and posted heavily about taking my size down significantly (holding in the 205-208 lbs range for a few months at 4-5% b/f.)
I've been on a pretty much endless cycle since then to bring my size back up and just hit 242 lbs today. I've been very surprised that in taking my size back up I've been able to do it at a lower b/f percentage. (Probably at least 3 percentage points. I won't know for sure till I get retested.)
This is the second time I've done a long whinny stretch this cycle and so far no liver problems.
I never run winny anymore.
Not b/cof its liver toxicity, which can easily be combatted with liver protectors.
The problem with winny is that it paractically anhilates your HDL cholesterol. And no amount of chol/lipid enhancing compounds will help it.
It is by FAR the WORST AAS for your Chol/Lipid profile.
Fonz
Not b/cof its liver toxicity, which can easily be combatted with liver protectors.
The problem with winny is that it paractically anhilates your HDL cholesterol. And no amount of chol/lipid enhancing compounds will help it.
It is by FAR the WORST AAS for your Chol/Lipid profile.
Fonz
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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Fonz said:
The Renal failure(membranous nephrotic syndrome) I was diagnosed with at the end of 2002 left my blood in quite the state. Among other things, my blood was hyper-lipid(despite having a clean diet). I was put on a massive regimen of drugs to treat my Kidneys and my blood. One of the medications I'm on is Crestor... its a statin cholesterol drug. I have my blood pulled frequently... as it is montiored closely by my Doctor. I've responded very well to Crestor... its dropped my LDL cholesterol dramatically. Also, Crestor seems to have had little impact on my Liver values(all statins are Liver toxic).
Anyways... my Kidneys have made quite the recovery over the past 8 months. All the specialists I've spoke with during this ordeal have stated that my illness was not caused by steroids. I decided a month ago to go ahead with a light cycle. In addition to all my Kidney/blood medication, I'm doing 250mg of Sus/week stacked with 50mg of Winstrol-V/ED.
I'm very interested to see what impact Winstrol will have on my HDL/LDL values. I'll also be watching for what it does to my ALT value for my Liver.
I'm in week 4 of this(12 week)cycle... and taking the following supplements:
200-600mg of r-ALA/ED(complements of Ulter last year)
28grams of Omega oils/ED
Fonz... let me know your thoughts. Do you think Crestor will keep my cholesterol at a reasonable level despite using 50mg of V/ED?
BTW- Bro... you look fan-fucking-tastic. Good work!
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY said:
I don't think so, no.
The winstrol will completely overpower the crestor. Winstrol is a special case among AAS...it is in a class of its own at decreasing HDL.
I'm currently researching 3 compounds(not statins) that may have the capacity to bring HDL and lower LDL while on a cycle while keeping total cholesterol in check. But that study will not be completed for another 10 weeks. Phase I results will be ready in 3 weeks. And phase II in 11 weeks.
And another bonus of r-ala is that it dramatically lowers triglycerides. At least in my case...and I have the blood tests to prove it. I have no idea why it does it, but I'm looking into it.
If I were you I'd drop the winstrol and add some less harmfull AAS on your chol/lipid levels like EQ.
Fonz
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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Thanks Fonz... good info as usual from you. I'm looking forward to hearing about the results of your trials.
I will be running winny at 50mg/day for 7 weeks along with 25mg refB a day for 7 weeks (maybe ill jump it to 50mg or i might not even use it).
I think the liver will be fine, ive run orals longer than that in a cycle, with 4 of the weeks being halo with var.
You will have to go along with Fonz on the HDL thing, ive not read enough to give any good info pertaining to that.
I think the liver will be fine, ive run orals longer than that in a cycle, with 4 of the weeks being halo with var.
You will have to go along with Fonz on the HDL thing, ive not read enough to give any good info pertaining to that.
