Running Decca and Test E.. help with whats nxt?

[Mass Insanity]

So I'm currently running Decca and Test E currently this is my first cycle this yr... Nice gains since its been a while since I last ran Decca.. forgot but I really like this shit. I'm haven't decided what to rum nxt. I have what I need or I can get it.. so the options are endless. So I'm open ears and eyes.. wouldnt mind a change and try something new, for my second cycle this yr, or just some good solid advice that may leave me thinking about what I'd like to run.. I bulk every yr and then cut every yr.. the same as most. I thought about running.. masteron, tren, winny and prop.. looking for advice..

 

[ironvet]

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[eClenbuterol]

So I'm currently running Decca and Test E currently this is my first cycle this yr... Nice gains since its been a while since I last ran Decca.. forgot but I really like this shit. I'm haven't decided what to rum nxt. I have what I need or I can get it.. so the options are endless. So I'm open ears and eyes.. wouldnt mind a change and try something new, for my second cycle this yr, or just some good solid advice that may leave me thinking about what I'd like to run.. I bulk every yr and then cut every yr.. the same as most. I thought about running.. masteron, tren, winny and prop.. looking for advice..

Masteron is overrated, try running test prop with primo and winny.

 

[lostlazy]

Definetly not enough information for anyone to hand advice over to you. Simply stating that you bulk and cut every year, and you happen to be taking deca this time around is not enough. What I would first suggest after any (especially deca) cycle is PCT...We don't need to get into that here if you search PCT you will be up all night formulating your perfect approach. Working with the information you have provided, im inclined to agree with 'Eclen' that Masteron is over rated...but so is primo (and overpriced). Tren, winny and prop sound good on paper, but think about the frequency at which you will be pinning yourself. These are all very fast acting drugs, and ED/EOD application is necessary. Perhaps replacing the prop with something like sustanon is a start, but like I said, with out knowing your particulars or experience, its hard to recommend. Get back to us.

 

[Mass Insanity]

Definetly not enough information for anyone to hand advice over to you. Simply stating that you bulk and cut every year, and you happen to be taking deca this time around is not enough. What I would first suggest after any (especially deca) cycle is PCT...We don't need to get into that here if you search PCT you will be up all night formulating your perfect approach. Working with the information you have provided, im inclined to agree with 'Eclen' that Masteron is over rated...but so is primo (and overpriced). Tren, winny and prop sound good on paper, but think about the frequency at which you will be pinning yourself. These are all very fast acting drugs, and ED/EOD application is necessary. Perhaps replacing the prop with something like sustanon is a start, but like I said, with out knowing your particulars or experience, its hard to recommend. Get back to us.

I understand what your saying. I posted this just to hear some feed back. The information you stated above makes since. I'm currently running 600mgs of Test E along with 400 mgs of Decca weekly. I will be running the 2 for 12 weeks I'm in my 5th wk. Then a pct of clomid and hcg. I wanted to know what I should run for a second cycle that will cut my water and retian my size and strengh. I have used steriods since I was in college playing football and took a few yrs off. I started back at the age of 24 and I am now 28.. So I have been on and off for 4 yrs consistantly. I'm currently 6'0 240. I train yr around. So I'm asking for advice.. My last cylce was sustaplex, eq, tren, and winny that cycle ended Aug of 2008. All around help would be great, I'm looking for advice all the way from start to finish for a second cycle.

 

[lostlazy]

Well if your goal is to cut out water you're on the right path with your initial choices of gear. Like I said in the previous post, the pinning will get tedious, but that is MHO, I know plenty of dudes that do it while they are eating breakfast and reading the paper. Without knowing your BF%, I can
suggest a cycle that I do at least once a year, that constantly gives me sustainable strength gains while keeping me in my weight class. I have never experienced water retention on this cycle; It can be kind of pricey, but it is very anabolic and super safe with proper supplements. 70-100mg -Var ED, 50-80mg -Tbol ED, 50mg winny (injectable) starting first two weeks EOD and the till the end ED (spreading the pins out throughout the body as much as possible, safely), for 8-10 weeks , pct'n with one week of clomid and 2500IU HCG every three days for two weeks. I use milk thistle and desiccated liver throughout the year, and rarely drink so my bloods always come back without a trace. Your water retention should start to fade in the first couple of weeks, with it being gone by week 4, ( assuming you take in the appropriate amount of potassium daily too ) and with a low fat diet, the vascularity loves to come out with this cycle.

 

[Mass Insanity]

Well if your goal is to cut out water you're on the right path with your initial choices of gear. Like I said in the previous post, the pinning will get tedious, but that is MHO, I know plenty of dudes that do it while they are eating breakfast and reading the paper. Without knowing your BF%, I can
suggest a cycle that I do at least once a year, that constantly gives me sustainable strength gains while keeping me in my weight class. I have never experienced water retention on this cycle; It can be kind of pricey, but it is very anabolic and super safe with proper supplements. 70-100mg -Var ED, 50-80mg -Tbol ED, 50mg winny (injectable) starting first two weeks EOD and the till the end ED (spreading the pins out throughout the body as much as possible, safely), for 8-10 weeks , pct'n with one week of clomid and 2500IU HCG every three days for two weeks. I use milk thistle and desiccated liver throughout the year, and rarely drink so my bloods always come back without a trace. Your water retention should start to fade in the first couple of weeks, with it being gone by week 4, ( assuming you take in the appropriate amount of potassium daily too ) and with a low fat diet, the vascularity loves to come out with this cycle.

So let me get this right..its
70-100mg -Var ED,
50-80mg -Tbol ED,
50mg winny EOD for weeks 1-8
50mg winny ED for week 8-10
pct'n with one week of clomid and 2500IU HCG every three days for two weeks.

This would be different for me considering I've never used Var or Tbol. So exactly how much of each would I need for the full 10 weeks of the tbol and var? By the way thanks for the info.

 

[lostlazy]

You got it right. The var and Tbol I typically use come in 10mg each, so for the anavar (if your doing 100mgED) you would need about 700 total and for the TBol about (if doing 80mg/day) 560. If you encounter pills in a different size, remember to adjust dosage accordingly, and I would't go over 80mg of Tbol as it might effect your appetite. Since you never took it before, IF it does cause a little appetite suppresion, that is normal, last only about two weeks, just keep a positive mental attitude, and have a short glass of milk to coat your stomach before a meal, it might help you want to eat more. Like I said, it could be a little steep, but it is super safe, and way more permanent gains then many other combinations do, and it will most def take care of your water problem. Even though the Tbol is a test, it is more anabolic then it is androgenic, so it will help you continue making strength gains, while not adding water to you, the var should help purge any remaing water in your body, and we all know what winny does No problem bro, anytime.

 

[Mass Insanity]

You got it right. The var and Tbol I typically use come in 10mg each, so for the anavar (if your doing 100mgED) you would need about 700 total and for the TBol about (if doing 80mg/day) 560. If you encounter pills in a different size, remember to adjust dosage accordingly, and I would't go over 80mg of Tbol as it might effect your appetite. Since you never took it before, IF it does cause a little appetite suppresion, that is normal, last only about two weeks, just keep a positive mental attitude, and have a short glass of milk to coat your stomach before a meal, it might help you want to eat more. Like I said, it could be a little steep, but it is super safe, and way more permanent gains then many other combinations do, and it will most def take care of your water problem. Even though the Tbol is a test, it is more anabolic then it is androgenic, so it will help you continue making strength gains, while not adding water to you, the var should help purge any remaing water in your body, and we all know what winny does No problem bro, anytime.

Cool.. great info. This was what I was looking for, something new to put in the swing of things. I'll let you know how it turns out, if I decide to run this for my nxt cycle. It's looking like that's what I'm gonna do.

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

Last year when I came off a cycle with deca in it I ran test/tren/winny. It was awesome!

 

[Mass Insanity]

Last year when I came off a cycle with deca in it I ran test/tren/winny. It was awesome!

I always liked that mix... always got great results.