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http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/2004070734

A worker with the Federal Emergency Management Agency who wore an anti-Bush T-shirt at the president’s July Fourth rally in Charleston has been sent home to Texas.

Nicole Rank, who was working for FEMA in West Virginia, and her husband, Jeff, were removed from the Capitol grounds in handcuffs shortly before Bush’s speech. The pair wore T-shirts with the message “Love America, Hate Bush.”

The Ranks were ticketed for trespassing and released. They have been given summonses to appear in court, Charleston Police Lt. C.A. Vincent said Wednesday.

FEMA spokesman Ross Fredenburg would not say Wednesday whether Nicole Rank had been fired.

“All we can say is that our federal coordinating officer, Lou Botta, sent Nicole home,” he said. “We cannot comment further, to protect her privacy. Federal privacy laws prevent us from saying anything.”

Rank was doing environmental work for FEMA, Fredenburg said. “Nicole was deployed here after the Memorial Day flooding. I knew her personally ... We are reservists and work for intermittent periods of time.”

Fredenburg said Jeff Rank did not work for FEMA. He would not say where in Texas the Ranks live.

On Sunday, Charleston Police Sgt. R.E. Parsons said Nicole and Jeff Rank were in a no-trespassing area and refused to leave.

The White House coordinated the president’s visit to the state Capitol. Organizers described it as a presidential visit, not a political rally. State and federal funds were used to pay for the presidential visit.

Dozens of people who attended Sunday’s event wore pro-Bush T-shirts and Bush-Cheney campaign buttons, some of which were sold on the Capitol grounds outside the security screening stations.

.S. Secret Service officers coordinated security workers, including West Virginia State Police, state park officers and Capitol security officers.

Those who attended Bush’s speech were required to have tickets that were distributed by various employers in the area and by the office of Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va.

Those who applied for tickets were required to supply their names, addresses, birth dates, birthplaces and Social Security numbers.

A two-page document given to ticket holders said they were prohibited from bringing certain items to the event, including: weapons, video-recording equipment, food, beverages, umbrellas, signs and banners. T-shirts, political buttons and lapel pins were not on the list of prohibited items.

Robert Bastress, a West Virginia University law professor who specializes in civil liberties, questions whether people like the Ranks can be legally prohibited from wearing anti-Bush shirts or buttons.

“Obviously, you have a right to engage in nondisruptive protest,” he said. “If you were legally there, you cannot be asked to leave because of whatever message is on a button or a T-shirt or a hat.”

He said key questions are “whether the [Bush speech] was a public forum, whether you were lawfully there and what was the manner in which you were engaging in your expression.”

Event organizers could prohibit signs, designating a place where people could carry signs. “But they can’t make those decisions based on what the content of any sign says.”

Bastress also said it makes no difference whether Sunday’s event was an official presidential visit or a political rally.

“That area was open to anybody who had a ticket,” he said. “Once you were lawfully in there, you were entitled to even-handed treatment.”

:doublefi: :doublefi: :doublefi: :doublefi: :doublefi:
 
was he on company/government time?

and was the rally in any way related to his job as a federal employee

If not i can understand him being asked to leave...but handcuffs and being fired is BS
 
danielson said:
was he on company/government time?

and was the rally in any way related to his job as a federal employee

If not i can understand him being asked to leave...but handcuffs and being fired is BS


She was there on July 4th, which was a Sunday.
 
http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/2004071924

City apologizes to Bush protesters

Couple has decided to move here


By Jamie Henline
Staff Writer By Tara Tuckwiller
Staff Writer

After Charleston City Council agreed to apologize Monday to two people arrested at a President Bush appearance in the city this month, Mayor Danny Jones suggested sending the couple some West Virginia T-shirts.

He might not have to mail them.

Nicole Rank, who was arrested with her husband, Jeff, at the Fourth of July event, said that she and her husband now plan to move from Texas to Charleston.

“We really appreciate the apology from the city for the part that they played in the events on July 4,” said Nicole Rank, who came to West Virginia after the Memorial Day floods to work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

But the Ranks had already decided to move, she said, partly because Charlestonians have been “extremely supportive ... Even people who didn’t necessarily agree with [our politics] have been supportive of us.”

The apology, presented in a resolution by Councilman Harry Deitzler, said that the rights of the Ranks “to freely express themselves, as guaranteed by both the United States and West Virginia Constitutions, was directly or indirectly abridged, suppressed, or prevented by the City of Charleston.”

“It was a public event, not a private or a political event,” Deitzler said. “Taxpayers paid to bring [the president] in on an official presidential visit. In this country ... those who disagree with the government are allowed to state that disagreement.”

The Ranks were arrested by city police and charged with trespassing after wearing T-shirts saying “Love America, Hate Bush” to the president’s appearance at the state Capitol. The charges were dropped after Municipal Judge Carole Bloom said the city had no jurisdiction on the Capitol grounds.

Council’s apology did not place any blame on the city or the Charleston Police Department. Deitzler said he thinks the blame should be laid on the White House staff, because local police were expected to defer to federal law enforcement officers.

Councilwoman Ditty Markham agreed that Charleston police are not to blame for the Ranks’ arrests.
 
Code said:
Unless you're gay, you can't wear shirts saying you hate Bush.

I thought everyone knew that.

lmfao

You must spread some karma around before giving it to Code again.....
 
Those t shirts are lame but cuffing people and firing them for them is even lamer and should result in a public execution of the death penalty.
 
Robert Jan said:
Those t shirts are lame but cuffing people and firing them for them is even lamer and should result in a public execution of the death penalty.
True...in times past.


The stakes involved in this election are simply immeasurable. The very lives of millions will depend on the outcome. That is just a start.
 
Testosterone boy said:
The stakes involved in this election are simply immeasurable. The very lives of millions will depend on the outcome.

Hey, I didn't realize you were Pro-Life! Repeal Roe v Wade!
 
Wow, drama-queen!!!

When was the last time a mere change in partisan control were your basic rights altered? It's been a looooooooooooooooooooong time man.

If you honestly think there is going to be massive change one way or the other, you are sadly mistaken.

Testosterone boy said:
True...in times past.


The stakes involved in this election are simply immeasurable. The very lives of millions will depend on the outcome. That is just a start.
 
Longhorn85 said:
Hey, I didn't realize you were Pro-Life! Repeal Roe v Wade!
I think he is pro not death by rich stupid white guys.
 
^Wodin, I just though of something...for all the Bush/rep bashing you and others spew, I rarely hear how another canidate, ie Kerry/Edwards, will do better...this seems to be a huge weakness for the left...unified in hate of one person/admin but nothing else...
 
Gambino said:
^Wodin, I just though of something...for all the Bush/rep bashing you and others spew, I rarely hear how another canidate, ie Kerry/Edwards, will do better...this seems to be a huge weakness for the left...unified in hate of one person/admin but nothing else...
You hear nothing about what bush will do in a second term. You hear nothing about his record because it sucks ass. All I've heard is negative from Bush for months. If you want to know kerry's platform go read it. It's on his website.

Shrub needs bashed constantly because thats all he and his good buddy Karl Rove do. Look back on the way he ripped John McCain apart in 2000.
 
arrested??? pst!!! thats nothing, the secrete service could have made them disappear. at least thats what i would have had done.
 
WODIN said:
You hear nothing about what bush will do in a second term. You hear nothing about his record because it sucks ass. All I've heard is negative from Bush for months. If you want to know kerry's platform go read it. It's on his website.

Shrub needs bashed constantly because thats all he and his good buddy Karl Rove do. Look back on the way he ripped John McCain apart in 2000.

see the problem with this response is:

instead of responding directly, youve chosen to change the issue entirely from, "what will kerry/edwards do better'' to... ''Gawd Damn Dubya aint gunna dew shit in his sekund tyrm.''
 
juicedpigtails said:
see the problem with this response is:

instead of responding directly, youve chosen to change the issue entirely from, "what will kerry/edwards do better'' to... ''Gawd Damn Dubya aint gunna dew shit in his sekund tyrm.''
Yeah I've adopted the Republican tactics. What do you think?
 
juicedpigtails said:
several sequential left turns can make in essence a right turn, but other than that...

i dont like it.
Three left turns make one right turn.

Why? Co-opting GOP turf or the tactic itself?
 
WODIN said:
Three left turns make one right turn.

Why? Co-opting GOP turf or the tactic itself?

wait, are we debating my use of the word 'several' here, or just you Nelson Montana-ing questions????

the tactic. (when a somewhat fair question is asked, or an unfair one thats enjoyable to debate)
 
juicedpigtails said:
wait, are we debating my use of the word 'several' here, or just you Nelson Montana-ing questions????

the tactic. (when a somewhat fair question is asked, or an unfair one thats enjoyable to debate)
I did tell him to go the kerry's website and review his platform, which I support for the most part. Go dig, thats what I've done. I did my homework and made up my mind.
 
WODIN said:
I did tell him to go the kerry's website and review his platform, which I support for the most part. Go dig, thats what I've done. I did my homework and made up my mind.


im actually going there right now... :)
 
Testosterone boy said:
Wait a second.....three left turns do not make a right turn.
Think about it in terms of two way streets.
 
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