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[dhudson8]

I am going to start a new cycle, just trying to start the purchase of supplements. Want to double check a few things.

I am going to..

1-4wk 50mg ED DBOL
1-16wk 300mg EOD sust
1-16wk tren (???)
12-16wk winny 50mg ED


I want to add tren to the cycle with sust. I was reading that parabolan with sust is good for a hard ripped look, but i was recently told that tren is replaced parabolan or parabolan is no longer on the market, whichever it was. Which tren should I use and how much with this cycle? Also the winny, would i benefit more from the inj or tabs? cost vs benefit?
I will use HCG for the last 2-3 weeks of the cycle and for 4-6 weeks after that use derma. I was also thinking about taking nolva during the cycle mainly for safety from sides and web suggests that over 1000mg sust wk you should use nolva to prevent sides.

Does this sound half way descent. Thanks again.

 

[bobbie]

U can use Tren A 75mgs ED or EOD Winny inj r far better. Nova 10 or 20 mgs ED

 

[dhudson8]

U can use Tren A 75mgs ED or EOD Winny inj r far better. Nova 10 or 20 mgs ED

are you saying tren a 75 mg ED or EOD

or winny 75 mg ED or EOD??

if you were referring to winny, then how much tren should I use with the sust cycle?

 

[bobbie]

are you saying tren a 75 mg ED or EOD

or winny 75 mg ED or EOD??

if you were referring to winny, then how much tren should I use with the sust cycle?

NO its Tren ED or EOD 75mgs....... Winny inj is better than Tabs

 

[bobbie]

Thats a good cycle if it was me i would put the Sus & Tren in the same syringe EOD

 

[msam76]

get winny inj. if you can, save your liver. if not, make sure you have plenty of milk thistle or tylers on hand.

 

[dhudson8]

NO its Tren ED or EOD 75mgs....... Winny inj is better than Tabs

so 75mg EOD of tren ace would be good with the sust cycle? this would help with building harder muscle?

 

[bobbie]

so 75mg EOD of tren ace would be good with the sust cycle? this would help with building harder muscle?

For me yes for u .. u have to try diff doses to see what suits u. Some people would mayb say a higher dose of Tren. Its a good starter for Tren

 

[dhudson8]

For me yes for u .. u have to try diff doses to see what suits u. Some people would mayb say a higher dose of Tren. Its a good starter for Tren

whats the big differences between tren A and E

 

[bobbie]

whats the big differences between tren A and E

Tren is a powerful drug it can have a lot of side affects so tren A is out of your system in 1 or 2 days whereas tren E is a longer stay in your body so any side affects tren A leaves your system faster. Tren A is a good starter to see how you get on then you could progress to tren E

 

[trickster6487]

no test?? i think every first cycle should include some test

 

[dhudson8]

no test?? i think every first cycle should include some test

this is not my first cycle. and I'm taking sust, it has test in it.

 

[dhudson8]

should i run a tri tren forumula with the sust instead of sust A?

 

[bobbie]

should i run a tri tren forumula with the sust instead of sust A?

NO stick to Tren A its a good cycle that IMO. Tren & Sus EOD

 

[Inhibitor13]

no test?? i think every first cycle should include some test

wow....just wow.

 

[dhudson8]

so using tren a then......

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
wk 1-16 sust300mg/trenA 75(+)mg EOD
wk 12-16 winny dosage?
1-16 nolva 10-20mg ED

wk 14-16 HCG
wk 16-20 derma

would this work well?

 

[dhudson8]

how much inj winn should i use with this cycle? I know about how much tabs to use but if inj would be better how much would be good enough to get good results.

 

[trickster6487]

wow....just wow.

lol im kidding man

 

[bobbie]

so using tren a then......

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
wk 1-16 sust300mg/trenA 75(+)mg EOD
wk 12-16 winny dosage?
1-16 nolva 10-20mg ED

wk 14-16 HCG
wk 16-20 derma

would this work well?

Use Tren MAX 8 weeks:: Winny dose 50mgs ED

 

[dhudson8]

I've heard that nolva can cause some slight issues during cycle, but I've also heard that anything over 1000mg test a week and i should take some sort of product to elp fight against negative sides. I was originally thinking of taking the nolva during the entire cycle as suggested on one of the web pages I was reading, but do any of you have an alternative that you could suggest to take during the cycle to help fight water retention and also to help prevent any if all possible gyno.

Thanks

 

[dhudson8]

also is there anything else that you can recommend to use to kick start the cycle other than Dbol. I like the dbol but most of the gains are water retention. I know prop can be used to kick start, but I dont know if it would be better to use than dbol. I just don't want to pack on a lot of water weight at the beginning of the summer. LOL I don't really like to take pills either, i tend to forget to take them at the right times, and I just would rather the inj anyway.

Thanks again.

 

[Jabs]

also is there anything else that you can recommend to use to kick start the cycle other than Dbol. I like the dbol but most of the gains are water retention. I know prop can be used to kick start, but I dont know if it would be better to use than dbol. I just don't want to pack on a lot of water weight at the beginning of the summer. LOL I don't really like to take pills either, i tend to forget to take them at the right times, and I just would rather the inj anyway.

Thanks again.

If you haven't ordered yet just switch the sust for test prop and inject ed with the tren

 

[dhudson8]

If you haven't ordered yet just switch the sust for test prop and inject ed with the tren

sust and tren a are already on the way, just trying to get the rest together and in line before i order. I was just seeing if there were any better optinos as a kick start or anything better to take during cycle to prevent sides like gyno and water retention. Both of which are a hugely unwanted.
Nolva was suggested before during cycle, but what about others like provorin or clomid?

 

[Jabs]

sust and tren a are already on the way, just trying to get the rest together and in line before i order. I was just seeing if there were any better optinos as a kick start or anything better to take during cycle to prevent sides like gyno and water retention. Both of which are a hugely unwanted.
Nolva was suggested before during cycle, but what about others like provorin or clomid?

You do gain some water with d-bol at higher dosages but I've had some good results running d-bol with lower dosages and for longer period of times. 20 to 25mgs per day for 8 weeks or longer and you can put on some good muscle.

 

[dhudson8]

Im thinking of taking proviron vs nolvadex. it seems like it might be a better anti E during cycle. anyone else agree or disagree?