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R-ALA vs. Milk Thistle for Liver protection?
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will b huge
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Bro. Milk thistle is for liver protection...R-ALA is more for helping insulin sensitivity and is a great anitoxidant.......To help you out further, here is a list compiled of supplements and what they help you with........
Niacin (nicotinic acid or inositol hexaniacinate)(ALSO, really like POLICOSANOL) - 60mg (not only lowers bad cholesterol, but raises good cholesterol, which most cholesterol medications do not do).
Vitamin B-5 - 100mg (for acne and oil gland control)
Milk Thistle - 525mg (liver protection)
Vitamin B-12 - 375mcg (promotes red blood cell formation)
Red Yeast Rice - 150mg(reduce total cholesterol levels, lower levels of LDL ("bad")cholesterol, increase levels of HDL ("good") cholesterol, and lower levels of triglycerides. Chemically identical to drug Lovastatin)
White Willow Bark - 300mg (contains herbal salicylic acid (aspirin) and thins blood for those with high RBC count, reduces inflammation, and also extends the half life of many thermogenics)
Bromelain (600 GDU) 360mg (breaks down protein in the stomach and reduces inflammation)
R-ALA - 105mg (helps insulin sensitivity and is a great antioxidant)
Taurine - 250mg (reduces clen cramps, and replaces Taurine supply in heart muscle which is drained by clenbuterol, DNP or other stimulants which can cause irregular heart beats or even cardiac arrest)
L-Theanine 200mg (increases the brains output of alpha-waves which promote a relaxed state. In higher doses like 400mg, makes an even more relaxed state by further increasing alpha waves while lowering neurotransmitter production)
Phenibut 250mg (form of GABA that crosses the blood brain barrier, VERY STRONG legal sedative)
Rhodiola 175mg (relieves stress by reducing cortisol production and increasing oxygen efficiency)
5-Hydroxy Tryptophan - 100mg (promotes sleep in a similar way to L-Tryptophan, natural anti-depressant also, both by being a direct precursor to Serotonin)
Tribulus 1005mg (like natural clomid without the side effects, increases LH and gets sperm production going again)
7-Keto DHEA 300mg (stimulates thyroid production, and does not convert to testosterone or estrogen therefore not affecting hormonal axis after a cycle.
Tongat Ali 210mg (200mg/day is said to be as effective as HCG in increasing FSH. also, binds to SHBG therefore freeing bound testosterone. amazing libido enhancing effects as well with just a single 200mg dose)
Ecdysterone 75mg (the best adaptogen in the world, completely non-hormonal and stimulates protein synthesis at the ribosomal level, much like Dianabol. stimulates RBC formation)
3,6,17 Androstenetrione (same ingredient as 6-OXO) 300mg - (very potent natural aromatase inhibitor, helps prevent post-cycle estrogen rebound)
Calcium -D- Glucarate 150mg (proven to enhance detoxification pathways, including estrogen detoxification and elimination. Basically, helps your body get rid of the estrogen it may have made despite anti-aromatase drugs)
Acetyl L-Carnitine 75mg (improves short and long term memory and may support the HPTA and healthy testosterone levels)
5-HTP 25mg (precursor to serotonin improves mood and helps you not get too jacked up from all the ingredients above)
Niacin (nicotinic acid or inositol hexaniacinate)(ALSO, really like POLICOSANOL) - 60mg (not only lowers bad cholesterol, but raises good cholesterol, which most cholesterol medications do not do).
Vitamin B-5 - 100mg (for acne and oil gland control)
Milk Thistle - 525mg (liver protection)
Vitamin B-12 - 375mcg (promotes red blood cell formation)
Red Yeast Rice - 150mg(reduce total cholesterol levels, lower levels of LDL ("bad")cholesterol, increase levels of HDL ("good") cholesterol, and lower levels of triglycerides. Chemically identical to drug Lovastatin)
White Willow Bark - 300mg (contains herbal salicylic acid (aspirin) and thins blood for those with high RBC count, reduces inflammation, and also extends the half life of many thermogenics)
Bromelain (600 GDU) 360mg (breaks down protein in the stomach and reduces inflammation)
R-ALA - 105mg (helps insulin sensitivity and is a great antioxidant)
Taurine - 250mg (reduces clen cramps, and replaces Taurine supply in heart muscle which is drained by clenbuterol, DNP or other stimulants which can cause irregular heart beats or even cardiac arrest)
L-Theanine 200mg (increases the brains output of alpha-waves which promote a relaxed state. In higher doses like 400mg, makes an even more relaxed state by further increasing alpha waves while lowering neurotransmitter production)
Phenibut 250mg (form of GABA that crosses the blood brain barrier, VERY STRONG legal sedative)
Rhodiola 175mg (relieves stress by reducing cortisol production and increasing oxygen efficiency)
5-Hydroxy Tryptophan - 100mg (promotes sleep in a similar way to L-Tryptophan, natural anti-depressant also, both by being a direct precursor to Serotonin)
Tribulus 1005mg (like natural clomid without the side effects, increases LH and gets sperm production going again)
7-Keto DHEA 300mg (stimulates thyroid production, and does not convert to testosterone or estrogen therefore not affecting hormonal axis after a cycle.
Tongat Ali 210mg (200mg/day is said to be as effective as HCG in increasing FSH. also, binds to SHBG therefore freeing bound testosterone. amazing libido enhancing effects as well with just a single 200mg dose)
Ecdysterone 75mg (the best adaptogen in the world, completely non-hormonal and stimulates protein synthesis at the ribosomal level, much like Dianabol. stimulates RBC formation)
3,6,17 Androstenetrione (same ingredient as 6-OXO) 300mg - (very potent natural aromatase inhibitor, helps prevent post-cycle estrogen rebound)
Calcium -D- Glucarate 150mg (proven to enhance detoxification pathways, including estrogen detoxification and elimination. Basically, helps your body get rid of the estrogen it may have made despite anti-aromatase drugs)
Acetyl L-Carnitine 75mg (improves short and long term memory and may support the HPTA and healthy testosterone levels)
5-HTP 25mg (precursor to serotonin improves mood and helps you not get too jacked up from all the ingredients above)
macrophage69alpha
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will b huge said:
R-ala, glucorellR, is more effective for liver protection and liver tissue restoration than silymarin (the active in milk thistle).
J Appl Toxicol. 2004 Jan-Feb;24(1):21-6. Related Articles, Links
Protective effect of alpha-lipoic acid against chloroquine-induced hepatotoxicity in rats.
Pari L, Murugavel P.
Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Science, Annamalai University, Annamalai Nagar, Tamil Nadu 608 002, India. [email protected]
Oral administration of a-lipoic acid, a metavitamin, was investigated for its possible hepatoprotective effect in Wistar rats against chloroquine-induced toxicity. Rats were treated orally with alpha-lipoic acid (10, 30 and 100 mg x kg(-1) day(-1)) for 7 days before a single oral administration of chloroquine (970 mg x kg(-1) day(-1)) and alpha-lipoic acid treatment was continued for three more days. The increased level of serum enzymes (aspartate transaminase, alanine transaminase and alkaline phosphatase), bilirubin, lipids and plasma thiobarbituric acid-reactive substances (TBARS) and hydroperoxides observed in rats treated with chloroquine were very much reduced in rats treated with alpha-lipoic acid plus chloroquine. A significant decrease in plasma antioxidants such as reduced glutathione (GSH), vitamin C and vitamin E were observed in chloroquine-treated rats when compared with control rats. Administration of alpha-lipoic acid significantly improved the levels of plasma antioxidants GSH, vitamin C and vitamin E in chloroquine-treated rats. In the case of 100 mg x kg(-1) day(-1) the effect was highly significant compared with the other doses (10 and 30 mg x kg(-1) day(-1)). The results of the study revealed that alpha-lipoic acid could offer protection against chloroquine-induced hepatotoxicity. alpha-Lipoic acid had a better protective effect when compared with silymarin, a reference drug.
though several clinics use both
Med Klin (Munich). 1999 Oct 15;94 Suppl 3:84-9. Related Articles, Links
A conservative triple antioxidant approach to the treatment of hepatitis C. Combination of alpha lipoic acid (thioctic acid), silymarin, and selenium: three case histories.
Berkson BM.
Integrative Medical Center of New Mexico, New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, USA. [email protected]
BACKGROUND: There has been an increase in the number of adults seeking liver transplantation for hepatitis C in the last few years and the count is going up rapidly. There is no reliable and effective therapy for chronic hepatitis C since interferon and antivirals work no more than 30% of the time, and liver transplant surgery is uncertain and tentative over the long run. This is because, ultimately, residual hepatitis C viremia infects the new liver. Furthermore, liver transplantation can be painful, disabling and extremely costly. TREATMENT PROGRAM: The author describes a low cost and efficacious treatment program in 3 patients with cirrhosis, portal hypertension and esophageal varices secondary to chronic hepatitis C infection. This effective and conservative regimen combines 3 potent antioxidants (alpha-lipoic acid [thioctic acid], silymarin, and selenium) that possess antiviral, free radical quenching and immune boosting qualities. CONCLUSION: There are no remarkably effective treatments for chronic hepatitis C in general use. Interferon and antivirals have less than a 30% response rate and because of the residual viremia, a newly transplanted liver usually becomes infected again. The triple antioxidant combination of alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin and selenium was chosen for a conservative treatment of hepatitis C because these substances protect the liver from free radical damage, increase the levels of other fundamental antioxidants, and interfere with viral proliferation. The 3 patients presented in this paper followed the triple antioxidant program and recovered quickly and their laboratory values remarkably improved. Furthermore, liver transplantation was avoided and the patients are back at work, carrying out their normal activities, and feeling healthy. The author offers a more conservative approach to the treatment of hepatitis C, that is exceedingly less expensive. One year of the triple antioxidant therapy described in this paper costs less than $2,000, as compared to mor than $300,000 a year for liver transplant surgery. It appears reasonable, that prior to liver transplant surgery evaluation, or during the transplant evaluation process, the conservative triple antioxidant treatment approach should be considered. If these is a significant betterment in the patient's condition, liver transplant surgery may be avoided.
macrophage69alpha
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as a note- 7 keto dhea does convert to estrone, via sulfation. though no one who sells it seems to realize this. wonder why.... 
macrophage69alpha
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ecdysterone is an insect steroid, there is no legitimate evidence that it does anything in humans.
macrophage69alpha
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there is some evidence that tongkat ali works, though what fractions are effective is unknown as is it pharmacology. Note- those claims may be entirely spurious (know they are not your claims, but its just an FYI) with respect to method of action.
