Questions regarding BD Trenabol??

[BobbyJenious]

A.) This particular brand is an acetate not enatanthanate, if so this means a water based ester not oil??

B.) Assuming its is water, or given that it has a short half life, how is this substance dosed? I've read 200mgs a week, so is there an administration ED, EOD, every 5 days??

C.) Any results, commments, feedback, etc.


Thanks in advance bros, BJenious.

 

[BobbyJenious]

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[pharmadan]

a) Tren acetate is suspended in oil

b) Oil or water does not determine the half life. The compound does. Half life is short for tren acetate, so ED or EOD injections are needed to keep levels stable. I prefer EOD, but some users report less side effects like insomnia and night sweats if they inject ED.

c) Have you considered homebrew?

 

[nydj66]

a) Tren acetate is suspended in oil

b) Oil or water does not determine the half life. The compound does. Half life is short for tren acetate, so ED or EOD injections are needed to keep levels stable. I prefer EOD, but some users report less side effects like insomnia and night sweats if they inject ED.

c) Have you considered homebrew?

Actually, half-life is determined by the ratio of oil soluability to water soluability. So, if a compound is water based you can bet it has a very short half-life.

 

[pharmadan]

WRONG !!! Half life is based on the ester that the steroid is chemically bonded to when synthesize in the laboratory. Water / oil makes no difference ... it is only used for suspension of the compound. Here is a great link to educate you nydj66 ...

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=22605

 

[BobbyJenious]

Super, so how would dosage look for a moderate cycle as far as volume, frequency, and duration?? More importantly, how far will a couple bottles of trenabol get me??

 

[BobbyJenious]

^^

 

[BobbyJenious]

Anyone??

 

[SlimJim300]

Acetetes have about a 48 hour active life.

 

[nydj66]

WRONG !!! Half life is based on the ester that the steroid is chemically bonded to when synthesize in the laboratory. Water / oil makes no difference ... it is only used for suspension of the compound. Here is a great link to educate you nydj66 ...

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=22605

Let me educate you. Half life is dependent on water/oil soluability AND the ester that is attached to the compound.

A longer ester makes the steroid more oil soluable. Thus is will take a longer to do be absorbed into your bloodstream than a more water soluable compound would be. (shorter esters make the gear more water soluable).

So, I stand by my original statement; if a coumpound comes in waterbased form, you can bet it has a very short half-life.

 

[pharmadan]

... if a coumpound comes in waterbased form, you can bet it has a very short half-life.

You are generally correct here, but your logic is a bit skewed. Half-life is determined by the ester the compound is bound to. Water based solutions are used when the compound is soluble. Oil based solutions are used when the compound is not soluble or only partially soluble in an aqueous solution and the compound must be suspended. To say that oil/water solubility determines half-life is completely wrong. The rate at which the body absorbs oil or water based injections is negligible. Absorption in both cases is very fast ... it is the cleaving of the ester that takes the time.

 

[nydj66]

I can't speak definitively on pharmacology, but in an aqueous environment esterase enzymes break down ester bonds in a matter of hours. They only act on the bond itself so the size of the ester should not matter.

Regarding solubility; below is an excerp from the reference provided in the link.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/anabolic-steroid-esters.htm

Testosterone, nandrolone, and other anabolic steroids have poor solubility in either water or oil. Esterifying them improves oil solubility. This enables useful dosages of perhaps 100 mg or more per cc. But the more carbons the ester has, the lower the water solubility becomes, and the higher the partition coefficient (ratio between lipid and water solubilities) becomes. If the partition coefficient is high, then at any moment a high proportion of the prodrug is dissolved in oil or body fat, and only a small proportion is dissolved in water.

This is important. If testosterone itself is given in oil solution, it transfers too easily from oil to the water in the blood. The result is that an oil injection of testosterone gives a sudden spike in testosterone levels, which rapidly drops. Injections would be required at least twice per day, and perhaps even more often. Improving the oil solubility and decreasing the water solubility slows this transfer, and extends the half-life of the drug to several days or more.