questions for first cycle

[Raven18330]

hi all,
I have been working out for about 1 1\2 years with very little success in gaining mass. Have been researching juice for a couple of months. Was lookin to pack on some mass, and thought i would start with a cycle of dbol. Planned to use nolvadex as an anti-estrogen, but had questions on when to start it. Would like some sound advice. Could also use some other help as I said, I am new to anabolics, so any help would be appreciated.

 

[oubeta]

Get over your fear of needles. A dball only cycle is false gains. Just do 500mg of test for 8-10 weeks and add a little deca if you want. Clomid at the end and nolva on hand. Eat like a horse and you should pack on 15lbs of good muscle that will stay. It isn't as hard on the ol liver also.

 

[Raven18330]

Thanks for the advice. Its not a fear of needles though, just that the dbol was the easiest, actually one of the only, that i could get my hands on at the current time which would build some mass. Would like to do a cycle of deca, maybe with the deca for my first cycle, but was having problems finding a reputable source for the deca. The guy that i got it from also offered me some winny, which i thought about adding about the 5th week, but wasn't sure if it would be worth spending the extra $.

 

[Raven18330]

sorry, ment to say with the dbol for my first cycle.

 

[oubeta]

A deca only cycle isn't a good idea. You go limp around week 5 or so. Or at leat most people do. Stick around here and read and use the search feature. Don't spend the money for the Winny.
If you are going to bulk do it right. make test the base of your cycle. Then if you want add dball for the first 3-4 weeks.

Stick around and learn all you can.

 

[DaddyX]

start learning more....u dont know enough. better to be patient in the long run

 

[jubei]

Here is what you should do:

Week 1-4 25mg dbol ed
Week 1-10 400mg test enanthate

Nolva 10mg ed
Post cycle clomid or hcg/nolva

Do yourself a favor and don't waste your time with a dbol only cycle (5 lbs.) or a dbol and winstrol cycle (5.5 lbs.) or a deca only cycle (10 lbs. and a limp dick). You should be able to keep 20lbs. of muscle off the above cycle if you eat well, train hard and get enough rest.