Question -- Why Tren?

[THeMaCHinE]

Have never tried tren. Am semi-interested, but seems the only thing that would make it worth the hassle is if it's a totally kick-ass drug.

Price-wise, you've got 25 for the kit, 37.50 for a cart for a grand total of 62.50 (if you don't need any extras). That's for what, 20ml of 75mg/ml solution. Enough for 20 days at 75 mg ed/30 days at 50 mg ed? Test Cyp can be had for 45 - 50 per 10 ml, 200mg/ml... At the same dosages, the test will last longer and is cheaper with less injection frequency.

Then you've got the whole conversion process to deal with... daily injections... and you've got to hook up with winny to combat gyno. (more expensive than nolva)

Not flaming Tren, just asking -- is it worth it? If you feel it is, why??

 

[PARABOLAN]

hell yeah its worth it!!!

 

[THeMaCHinE]

hell yeah its worth it!!!

Yeah, but why? Pricewise it's not (necessarily) effective, ease-of-use wise (conversion and injection) it's a pain in the ass... Is it that much better than test, deca, primo, etc...

 

[Scotsman]

Yes tren is pretty much the shiznit.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Yes tren is pretty much the shiznit.

Is it enough better than test, deca, primo, etc. to go through all the hassle?

 

[Zyglamail]

75mg/eod would be a dose for a starter and no winny would be needed. Even at 75mg/ed winny would only be needed if you were prone to gyno. Tren is pretty kind to the prostate, hairline and the BP for most. Lean mass gains are very keepable and strength gains are nothing short of insane. 20lbs of keepable muslce in 6 weeks on tren alone at 75mg/ed I would say is very realistic assuming your not allready a monster. Last run I did with winny(50mg/ed) tren 75mg/eod, T3 pyramiding to 100mcg and back down and on reduced cals I added 14lbs to my cycle start weight in 4 weeks AND lost 3% BF.

I am continuing to cut so have lost more BF since then which accounts for me losing 10lbs since comming off, but I have retainedl all the size and strength gains.

The conversion is a piece of cake and less hassle than throwing together a decent dinner.

 

[lawnsaver]

Yes!!!! better than test.

3 times more androgenic without any conversion to estrogen and a low conversion to progesterone.

2 times more anabolic. muscle building monster!

 

[Willyumyum]

9 out of 10 cows before tren say moo .. 10 out of 10 cows after tren say MOO!

Got it?

YUM

 

[THeMaCHinE]

How many have ran it at at least 50 mg/ed without the winny?

Also, how many had sex sides (as in no drive)?

Zyg, lawnsaver, I'm looking specifically at you guys for answers...

 

[Willyumyum]

I've never personally tried tren, but I'm going to be running it with winny in my next cycle, i dont want to find out if im extremely prone to progesterone gyno the hard way... I've heard of maybe one low sex drive while someone was on tren, but probably not even related to it, if youcycle it with test you should be fine.....

YUM

 

[WeeMan]

100mg ED no winny no sides whatsoever. Great stuff and increases sex drive while on post sux though.

WeeMan

 

[Zyglamail]

I was horney as hell when on it. Had a great sense of well being and I slept like a baby. I had some occasional hot flashes. My bp was a little raised to 120/80 but not bad. At about the three week mark I atsrted getting sore joints from the winny and oily skin. But aside from that no probs at all.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Cool. Thanks for the info.

 

[rich197]

TREN is the shit I use it in every cycle of mine I love the shit. I love it so much I would be tempted to even buy TTOKKYO's overpriced tren if I really had too

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Don't the daily injections suck after awhile. The most I've shot is 2x/wk -- all in the glute (1.5 23g). Maybe it would be different if I shot in the delts, bis, tris with 1/2" smaller gauge needles (27g)?

 

[Scotsman]

Tren is definately worth the effort. Also you can inject EOD instead of ED. I've never had any sides from it so far. Far better than deca in my experience.

 

[ryker77]

25x5'8 for delts and bi's injection
25x1 for quads
23x1.5 for glutes

You kinda get used to the EOD shot routine. Even though I hate sticking myself, in a sick way it's kinda addictive.
Next time with tren will be ED since first time was E3D then secong time was EOD now it'l be ED.

 

[Zyglamail]

Don't the daily injections suck after awhile. The most I've shot is 2x/wk -- all in the glute

Actually, if you just rotate glutes and quads on an ed cycle you should be fine. I may do some delt injections but I dont think it will be necessary.

 

[Vein]

Tren is #1!! (just my opinion)

 

[jboldman]

why not make your own

without a kit? 5ml BA($.50), fina cart($40) syringe filter and syringe($3)