Question for DrJMW and/or Jenetic

[bigbair]

I am trying to get in to get bloodwork done to determine my test levels, however I was reviewing DrJMW's RECOVERY thread and in there he states that it may be necessary to perform those steps twice. I finished my PCT a week or so ago and it consisted of nolva, clomid, and some herbal supplements from Protein Factory. But I don't think that cut it.

I did use HCG during my cycle 1x per week. By doing so I was able to maintain testicular size. However, I did not include HCG in my PCT ( which is the dumbest thing I've done in a while) and I noticed a rather drastic decrease in testicular size during my PCT.

Right now I'm somewhat run down and lack the drive that I had in the gym a few weeks ago. As I've discussed in other thread(s) on this board, I am dealing with some pain near my left testicle and I largely attribute this too a failing PCT and 'crash'. This is just my personal opinion and is based mostly on my previous cycles and experiences when coming off them.

While I am trying to get into the doc's office for bloodwork and a professional opinion, I want to know if any bad could come of me trying the PCT posted by DrJMW? I don't know when I can get in to the doc (waiting on a call back) and I thought DrJMW's PCT plan might help me. Your thoughts?


Thanks for the guidance

BB

 

[Jenetic]

Right now I'm somewhat run down and lack the drive that I had in the gym a few weeks ago. As I've discussed in other thread(s) on this board, I am dealing with some pain near my left testicle and I largely attribute this too a failing PCT and 'crash'. This is just my personal opinion and is based mostly on my previous cycles and experiences when coming off them.

While I am trying to get into the doc's office for bloodwork and a professional opinion, I want to know if any bad could come of me trying the PCT posted by DrJMW? I don't know when I can get in to the doc (waiting on a call back) and I thought DrJMW's PCT plan might help me. Your thoughts?

I know you are concerned but you need to take a breath and relax for a minute. You will obviously not have the same drive and strength when you come off a cycle. Especially, when proper PCT hasn't been utilized.

The only thing that I am not familiar with is the testicular pain. I've never known of this symptom to be directly associated with hypogonadism. You may have some other testicular disorder such as a blood circulation problem that is attributing to hyopgonadism. There is nobody that can tell you exactly without a proper physical exam.

I doubt that anything bad will happen if you attempted an additional PCT therapy but even if it did show a change, if the problem is due to or associated with another medical condition, it will be pointless if you don't correct the origin of the problem in the first place.

Jenetic

 

[bigbair]

I doubt that anything bad will happen if you attempted an additional PCT therapy but even if it did show a change, if the problem is due to or associated with another medical condition, it will be pointless if you don't correct the origin of the problem in the first place.

Jenetic

So I can run the 3 wks HCG regimen with the 6 wks of nolva and it shouldn't have any adverse effects? I was hoping this might be effective in reversing the atrophy.

Is the nolva enough anti-e to offset the increased estrogen levels brought upon by HCG or should I include a-dex? I am definitely going to see a doctor about this, though it may be a few weeks before I can get an appt. I thought that until then, the RECOVERY method may be helpful (if you think it won't cause any adverse effects). By the way, the 40mg nolva every day seems to help.

I appreciate all your help and suggestions. Your an important resource to this board.


BB

 

[DrJMW]

stick to the prescribed pct. if after two attempts you are not recovered, then you must consider lifelong hrt. Also, with pain, there may be another cause associated with the problem. Do not use a-dex or any aromatase inhibitor during recovery. You do need some estrogen. The other problem is that you do not have baseline readings to compare to. So, all we have is the "norm" to work with-not YOUR norm.

 

[bigbair]

Thanks to both of you. The thought of lifelong HRT makes me depressed. I hope things return to normal. I'll also push to get bloodwork done prior to starting. Again, thanks to both.