Question about long term test use for older guys.

[crimson coal]

I am coming off my cycle here pretty soon and have most my stuff for bridging ready. The question I have is about test shutting down your own productions and how you need to come off. Being older (close to 40) I am not producing much test anyway so why would I want to come off of it? Why would it matter if my own was shut down? When it came back it would be measly anyways correct? So why wouldn't I want to use a low dosage for my bridge as well? I know alot of older people are on test and GH for life as a rejuvination of sorts. I don't plan on ever having kids and my sex drive is always up. So what would be the best reason for a person to come off of test rather than reduce the amount when off of a cycle at my age? I am very interested in what someone like Iron master or any of the older men on the board have to say.

 

[South of the border]

I am not an old timer but I'll give you my opinion anyways.

I beleive that bridging, in your case, would be a good idea as you have reached an age where a hormone replacement therapy could very well be advisable. Just keep the dosages very low and get regular blood tests (liver, kidneys, cholesterol, test and estradiol levels) to make sure that you don't suffer from any serious side effects from the drugs that you are using.

Make sure you take a good multi vitamin-mineral supplement and some EFA.

Good luck.

 

[gethard1]

same situation

but I was going to go to the doctor and see about my insurance paying for the non cycle times. heck it is worth a shot

 

[crimson coal]

I can understand taking a break for the younger bulls here who are still producing lots of their own test which could be hindered but don't see the point for older guys as long as they just go mild with it. Maybe I am missing another point to it which I would like to find out about if I am.

 

[solidspine]

crimson coal

Hi I am 51 and the only reason I am not on 365 days a year is financial and time,

My most recent cycle
Weeks 1-4 40mg d-bol/day
(I cut this short because I was seriously getting too big)
Weeks 1-14 test- ramped uped to 800mg per week of t-400
Weeks 1-20 primo 400mg per week,

but now only on 200mg per week

I had just finished a DNP cycle and was down to 150 lbs, today I weight 173 lbs and my height is 5’5” so I gained at least 15 lbs of pure muscle on the above cycle


At week 14 I brought my system back to normal with about 2 weeks of HCG,

After I finished my test and started primo for some strange reason my nuts shrunk again so today I started my first dose of clomid,

I will start a test, fina and gh cycle about the first of the year.

I don’t have any serious concerns about internal damage to organs or receptors, but I also think GH is the route for people my age.

Solidspine

 

[South of the border]

Wow!

Solidspine,

DNP?
Cycles of 40mg of dball a day plus 800mg of test a week?

At 51 years of age and 173 pounds?

Don't you feel that you are pushing the enveloppe a tiny bit?

I beleive it would be wiser for older users to stay away from orals altogether (with perhaps the exception of anavar). As far as DNP... well I just don't understand that move.

I'm not bashing you here. Just expressing my thoughts.

 

[crimson coal]

GH is part of my agenda for this bridge and would also love to stay on it for the rest of my life if nothing else.

 

[ironmaster]

I'm on for good. At 53, and after years of gear, my natural test was that of a 14 year old school girl. I am unwilling to go through the crash and lengthy time necessary to get any kind of natural axis back again. Last time I was off...3 years ago....was miserable. I have a pack of kids, so I am done there. I simply switch from androgens to anabolics and lighten up from time to time. Yes, always GH, too.
Now, I would NEVER recommend this to anyone else....I accept the risk, but younger guys should cycle religously. Take as much time off as you are on. This I did throughout my younger years in the gym. If you aren't married and haven't started a family, you will want the boys to work right.
CC, you are kind of on the border there, age wise......have you had a test while clean? You are a big fuck, maybe you are still hitting on all cylinders.......if not, you know my answer.
Solidspine ain't pushin the envelope.... us old guys get to be crazy with the gear, cause the dirt nap isn't far off anyway.

 

[Hengst]

cripes !!

CC - almost 40 is NOT old. I'm 41 and still feel like I'm 28. Old is 70+.

just my 2 cents <G>

 

[HansNZ]

OK, firstly I recently saw a graph of natural testosterone output in men. Men's testosterone levels are highest between 30 and 40. Their levels between 40 and 50 are much the same as they are between the ages of 20 and 30. You do have natural testosterone production at age 40 so I don't think you should jeopardise it - you do have something to lose.

Solidspine - the reason why your boys shrank again was because HCG doesn't restart your natural production - it is an artificial boost. Once it is out of your system (in about 5 days) your testicles will go back to the same condition they were prior to HCG intake.