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Question about Diabetes

Magick69

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i have my mother who has diabetes (mellitus) so it is my worry...now to the most knowledgeable bros

do steroids cause diabetes (i read that GH can)?

what are (apart glucorell) supplements that can prevent diabetes or at least reduce its likelyhood?
 
What type does your mom have? There is an autoimmune type and diet/lifestyle induced. Steroids wont cause diabetes
 
androgens can cause worsening of insulin sensitivity and lead to type II diabetes (of course diet, fat gain, lack of cardio, and genetics would also be exacerbating factors).

use glucorell (r-lipoic) to maintain/improve insulin sensitivity. avoid high fructose cornsyrup, avoid hydrogenated oils, do cardio.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
androgens can cause worsening of insulin sensitivity and lead to type II diabetes (of course diet, fat gain, lack of cardio, and genetics would also be exacerbating factors).

use glucorell (r-lipoic) to maintain/improve insulin sensitivity. avoid high fructose cornsyrup, avoid hydrogenated oils, do cardio.


The addition of androgens can cause type2? Never heard of that....didnt know that androgens had as much effects in insulin sens as diet and exercise? Seems hard to believe that in healthy adults following a good diet that this could happen.......
 
Type 2 diabetes mellitus is increasing globally and is an established risk factor for the development of atherosclerotic vascular disease. Insulin resistance is the hallmark feature of type 2 diabetes and is also an important component of the metabolic syndrome. There is evidence to suggest that testosterone is an important regulator of insulin sensitivity in men. Observational studies have shown that testosterone levels are low in men with diabetes, visceral obesity (which is strongly associated with insulin resistance), coronary artery disease and metabolic syndrome. Short-term interventional studies have also demonstrated that testosterone replacement therapy produces an improvement in insulin sensitivity in men. Thus hypotestosteronaemia may have a role in the pathogenesis of insulin-resistant states and androgen replacement therapy could be a potential treatment that could be offered for improvements in glycaemic control and reduction in cardiovascular risk, particularly in diabetic men.
 
Macro; all the roids ? or the less androgen more anabolic (anavar,turinabol, deca,equip) gear can excluded ?
 
i have a question related to this topic.

i've heard that people who use Insulin (usuallyw/ HGH) will eventually befome diabetic.. is there any meritt to this?
 
UncleSam said:
i have a question related to this topic.

i've heard that people who use Insulin (usuallyw/ HGH) will eventually befome diabetic.. is there any meritt to this?

hope someone more informed will answer it; for what i know GH and IGF-1 and insulin are terrible for diabetes and people who have genetic predisposition i would never touch them
 
shorinryu69 said:
hope someone more informed will answer it; for what i know GH and IGF-1 and insulin are terrible for diabetes and people who have genetic predisposition i would never touch them

anyone have anything they could add?
 
Well, heres a study of exogenous insulin used in type 2 diabetic patients.....

To determine whether sulfonylureas and exogenous insulin have different effects on insulin action, we studied eight patients with non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus before and after three months of treatment with tolazamide and exogenous semisynthetic human insulin, using a randomized crossover design. Therapy with tolazamide and therapy with insulin resulted in similar improvement of glycemic control, as measured by a decrease in mean glycosylated hemoglobin (+/- SEM) from 9.4 +/- 0.7 percent to 7.7 +/- 0.5 percent with tolazamide and to 7.1 +/- 0.2 percent with exogenous insulin (P less than 0.01 for both comparisons). Therapy with either tolazamide or exogenous insulin resulted in a similar lowering (P less than 0.05) of postabsorptive glucose-production rates (from 2.3 +/- 0.1 to 2.0 +/- 0.2 and 1.8 +/- 0.1 mg per kilogram of body weight per minute, respectively) but not to normal (1.5 +/- 0.1 mg per kilogram per minute). Both tolazamide and exogenous insulin increased (P less than 0.05) glucose utilization at supraphysiologic insulin concentrations (from 6.2 +/- 0.7 to 7.7 +/- 0.6 mg per kilogram per minute with tolazamide and to 7.8 +/- 0.6 mg per kilogram per minute with exogenous insulin) to nondiabetic rates (7.9 +/- 0.5 mg per kilogram per minute). Neither agent altered erythrocyte insulin binding at physiologic insulin concentrations. We conclude that treatment with sulfonylureas or exogenous insulin results in equivalent improvement in insulin action in patients with non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus. Therefore, the choice between these agents should be based on considerations other than their ability to ameliorate insulin resistance.

Exo insulin help with the action of insulin in type 2 patients......havent read anywhere that exo insulin will CAUSE type 2.....type 1 is a AI disease where the pancreatic islet cells are actually destroyed and the body cant produce insulin anymore....dont see exo insulin causeing type 1
 
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