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ajtomasi
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6 -8 weeks
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ajtomasi
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There are drinks that you can take that taste like shit, but when you take a drug test your results come back neither positive or negative, but rather unconclusive, which might be just as bad as negative to some places or you might have to take another test.
these drinks are usually sold under names like Body Cleansing or Detox drinks and they run from 30 to 50 dollars a bottle depending on your weight
these drinks are usually sold under names like Body Cleansing or Detox drinks and they run from 30 to 50 dollars a bottle depending on your weight
calveless wonder
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coke only stays in the body for 3-4 days max
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ajtomasi
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calveless wonder said:
so you're saying after 4 days you can take a test and it will show absolutly no drugs what so ever?
notoriousQQ
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3-4 days
this is not a drug discussion board
this is not a drug discussion board
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ajtomasi
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well i guess i must be wrong, but i'd becareful
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ajtomasi
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HANSEL said:
Then why the fuck am i not on COKE?!?!?!
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a week if you want to be completely safe
but about 48 hours is about all it will really take for a piss or blood test
if they test your hair, well you are fucked anyway. but thats unusual
but about 48 hours is about all it will really take for a piss or blood test
if they test your hair, well you are fucked anyway. but thats unusual
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ajtomasi
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HANSEL said:
Because its highly addictive I would guess, you wife would probably catch on and kick your ass
I'm not married!
spongebob
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nice6pac said:
sorry bro but thats hilarious. so by that standard cigarettes are not addictive. whoever says coke is not addictive because it doesnt meet certain criteria obviously never used it or personally been involved with someone that uses extensively. i guess it depends on what you call addictive but when someone cant stop and basically throws thier life away because of it, i would say that person is addicticted regardless wether they throw up or not.
Silent Method
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Sorry bro, but you have no idea about this one.nice6pac said:
BTW, their are many forms of addiction...
spongebob
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CCCP said:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/
just scroll down and go to drug testing, 3 days for most people.
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I am quoting one of the most respective book s on teh topic " Dynamics of drug abuse in america" " cocaine is not physically addictive" psychological addiciton is wil[power if your say psychological addiction is true youa re full of fucking shit and are copping out Fact a very large percentage of soldiers returing from vietnam were "addicted" to heroin, the government followed a significatn cross sectiona dn found hardly any where "addicted" years alter why hot shot ot was readily availble its a choice and i am sick of cop outs like you i knwo people who did drugs for years and jsut stopped on their own accord and heroin has withdrawal addiction isa cop out its that simple just because you are weak and hav eno will power
spongebob
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nice6pac said:
you have alot to learn about life son. it doesnt matter if the psychological addiction is just a lapse in willpower, thats still an addiction. like i said, you obviously have not been around heavy drug users and are simply expecting everyone to handle situations and addictions in the same manner. im sick of people who want to make peoples problems seem so simplistic, its people like you that causes the useless war on drugs by your simplistic approach, "oh its so easy to quit". and learn some proper grammar and writing skills. it doesnt have to be perfect but damn most of your shit is hardly readable.
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no he's right; by definition, cocaine is not physically addictive. It can however lead to psycological dependence. Remember that when we say psycological we are also referring to neurotransmitters. You definitely can suffer some downregulation of N.T. production and a definite decrease thyroid output... but your body will still function normally. THIS DOES NOT MEAN ITS LESS DIFFICULT TO STOP. It simply means that your body can still perform normal life functions without the substance.
Alcohol and Morphine are the actually 2 of the most physically addicting substances. Some Elderly people and long term users who have been adicts their whole lives will actually die if they stop because they are PHYSICALLY dependent on the drug. I.E. their body has modified its chemical processes to accomodate the intake of said drug. Heroin has effects similar to those of Morphine. In fact it is simply a synthetic alternative to morphine, originally developed as an alternative for those with morphine addictions... unfortunately it crossses the blood/brain barrier even more quickly than pure morphine and as a result can lead to addiction more quickly. So to settle the argument... cocaine, alcohol and morphine can be equally difficult to quit, psycologically, but the physical effects of withdrawal generally associated with alcohol and morphine are not present in cocaine hydrocloride.
Alcohol and Morphine are the actually 2 of the most physically addicting substances. Some Elderly people and long term users who have been adicts their whole lives will actually die if they stop because they are PHYSICALLY dependent on the drug. I.E. their body has modified its chemical processes to accomodate the intake of said drug. Heroin has effects similar to those of Morphine. In fact it is simply a synthetic alternative to morphine, originally developed as an alternative for those with morphine addictions... unfortunately it crossses the blood/brain barrier even more quickly than pure morphine and as a result can lead to addiction more quickly. So to settle the argument... cocaine, alcohol and morphine can be equally difficult to quit, psycologically, but the physical effects of withdrawal generally associated with alcohol and morphine are not present in cocaine hydrocloride.
DealsMorte
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In respect to not getting sick when quitting coke is wrong.
If a person is a user for a fairly long period of time they will go through cold sweats, vomitting, and depending on there level of addiction sometimes even ceisures.
I've seen it. Not as bad as heroine relapse but not good either.
If a person is a user for a fairly long period of time they will go through cold sweats, vomitting, and depending on there level of addiction sometimes even ceisures.
I've seen it. Not as bad as heroine relapse but not good either.
SuperShredder
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i dont know very much of anything about cocain,
so wat exactly does it do?
do u snort it up and then end up being high like ur on weed or what?
someone inform me
so wat exactly does it do?
do u snort it up and then end up being high like ur on weed or what?
someone inform me
crimson coal
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Take it from someone who use to have an 8 ball a day addiction. After getting caught and going to jail I went through the process of cleaning up. I got cold sweats and uncontrollable flintching and twitches for a few weeks. I constantly felt sick cold and pasty (like a clam). I was able to quit without going into rehab but needed alot of support from family and friends. I think those side affects I listed were physical not mental.
nothing is addictive or everything is, placebo effective is significant enough you can be addicted to capsuels full of water, your brain chemsitry will change because of this chemical dependency there is no different jsut weak ass people that ruin it for people who can handle it,
big_bad_buff
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3 or 4 days
collegiateLifter
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nice6pac said:
The problem is how you define addiction. By your methodology, one could argue that coke is no more addictive than weed which is utter Bullshit.
physiological addiction is generally one of the smaller parts of addiction, like when someone comes off heroin, and they tough it out. Then 8months later they relapse...
http://drugwarfacts.com/addictiv.htm
and BTW cocaine use does alter the way the brain releases and responds to dopamine, a physiological mechanism if you will.
collegiateLifter
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nice6pac said:
just dancing around the issue.
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Frackal
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I think it's fallacious to say that Coke or meth is not physically addictive.
Anyone who has used either will tell you that the endorphin vaccuum left by the drugs cause rabid desire to obtain more... that is a physical, neurological process.
Anyone who has used either will tell you that the endorphin vaccuum left by the drugs cause rabid desire to obtain more... that is a physical, neurological process.
big_bad_buff
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Frackal said:
not true, maybe for some people(like alcohol is to alcoholics) I tried it about 4 years ago back in the stupid days. used it 3 times, made me feel a little different, gave me some sort of ephedrin type rush, only it felt like a pure and clean buzz compared to ephedrin. I actually did quite a bit all 3 times, and it pissed me off becuase we ran out and i wanted to fucking kill someone....J/K...i thought it was over rated, way too expesive, and not worth the brain damage for such a short and non fulfilling buzz.
casavant
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When you do a line of cocaine, you feel like a new man...and the first thing that new man wants is another line of cocaine. 
Seriously, coke isn't one of those drugs that usually gets used a little at a time and then stashed away for later. When you're up, it's great, and when you start coming down it can start to feel really shitty. If you've been high enough for long enough, the comedown can be really soul-wrenching. So if it's there, you'll do it. Looking at that last line and knowing that there is no more is really not a good feeling at all. I can see how someone with nothing going on in there life, or people with a certain disposition, or people who have enough access to it for an extended period could find the stuff really, really hard to give up.
Seriously, coke isn't one of those drugs that usually gets used a little at a time and then stashed away for later. When you're up, it's great, and when you start coming down it can start to feel really shitty. If you've been high enough for long enough, the comedown can be really soul-wrenching. So if it's there, you'll do it. Looking at that last line and knowing that there is no more is really not a good feeling at all. I can see how someone with nothing going on in there life, or people with a certain disposition, or people who have enough access to it for an extended period could find the stuff really, really hard to give up.
Silent Method
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Originally posted by Frackal
I think it's fallacious to say that Coke or meth is not physically addictive.
Anyone who has used either will tell you that the endorphin vaccuum left by the drugs cause rabid desire to obtain more... that is a physical, neurological process.
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Sure, just like alcohol, not everyone who uses or even has occasion to abuse it is an addict.
I know plenty of people who did some coke a couple of times, thought it was neat but really no big deal, and left it alone. I also know people who'd binge on the stuff for over a week, then drop it like it was nothing.
I on the other hand, like many others, tried it once and believed right away that we had found the meaning of life. I was an addict no two ways about it. Thank God I am no longer using cocaine...
By contrast, alcohol addiction seems silly to me. I've done more than my fair share of drinking, but I have never been compulsive with alcohol in any way. The thought of being drunk more than once in a very great while disgusts me.
However, I understand that for many, alcohol is powerfully addictive.
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Originally posted by Frackal
I think it's fallacious to say that Coke or meth is not physically addictive.
Anyone who has used either will tell you that the endorphin vaccuum left by the drugs cause rabid desire to obtain more... that is a physical, neurological process.
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You contradicted yourself with your first six words. If it's true for some people, it has some truth to it.big_bad_buff said:
Sure, just like alcohol, not everyone who uses or even has occasion to abuse it is an addict.
I know plenty of people who did some coke a couple of times, thought it was neat but really no big deal, and left it alone. I also know people who'd binge on the stuff for over a week, then drop it like it was nothing.
I on the other hand, like many others, tried it once and believed right away that we had found the meaning of life. I was an addict no two ways about it. Thank God I am no longer using cocaine...
By contrast, alcohol addiction seems silly to me. I've done more than my fair share of drinking, but I have never been compulsive with alcohol in any way. The thought of being drunk more than once in a very great while disgusts me.
However, I understand that for many, alcohol is powerfully addictive.
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Silent Method said:
how so? some people can get addicted to it, some can't, just like alcohol. em i right?
let me clear this up... it's classified as a NON PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE DRUG BY THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY. I do not dispute the fact that it is hard to ween off of and I do understand that it downregulates NT production... as almost all recreational drugs do. I'm stating a fact, not arguing my opinion. A physical addiction is simply a different TYPE of addiction and is not easier or harder to come off of... every drug has its withdrawal symptoms...
spongebob
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Silent Method said:
i guess everyone has thier own addictions. ive used coke and smoked crack. i cant stand the feeling when you start coming down so i stay away from it. i really cant see why people enjoy it. now on the other hand i love X. and i dont mind coming down after the roll.
crimson coal
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Funny you should say that sponge.....I was a coke addict for quite awhile as Iv'e posted before.......After I quit (got popped) I tried X for the first time about 2 years later. After I felt the feeling of X I never wanted a line of cocaine again. So now I stay away from X also just because The way I felt on X was a hundred times better than the way I felt on coke. On coke I was introverted but on X.....I loved everyone and everything and the comedown wasnt as bad. To bad it fucks you up and isn't good for you.
collegiateLifter
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my point is simply that physical withdrawal is not the sole component of addiction. You also have to weigh in dependence, tolerance, reinforcement, and intoxication. A myriad of these factors causes addiction.
once agian its no more physically addictive than say eat i feel compelled to eat therefore processes in my brain have altered to accomdate this "addiciton" eating is differnt, but the point is the same this is well documented scientific fact and if you argue wiht it then you might as well argue that the number 2 is not actually 2 but some other number, the medical and scientific community's have labeled it as not physically addicitve, and there are 2 criteria to being named addicitive they are psycholgical adn physical dependence if you don't meet both your not addictive the blatant mis use of teh word addicitve do to poor education has led you poor dare I say sheeple astray instead of porivng your ignorant i sited scientific literature wor dfor wor din my last post please document and equally respected item and post
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