Ques. when I should start HCG and clomid

[projection]

Hey guys I've been on tren for six weeks @ 75mg/ED with light suspension use @ 300mgs/wk during weeks 2-6, and started test enanthate kind of late on week four @ 500mg/wk and continuing for about 6 or 8 more weeks. Taking liquidex EOD, starting a week before suspension. Since I didnt get to start the enanthate when I wanted, my cycle will be running a little longer about 12-14 weeks. These last 6 weeks Ill just be running enanthate and maybe tren for 2 more weeks. My sex drive has dramatically increased, so thats not a problem.
My question is should I use HCG by week 10, especially if I go closer to 14 weeks of being on? Secondly how long after my last shot of enanthate should I start clomid? I believe it should be two or three weeks after last shot since it is long lasting. And lastly how should clomid breakdown be, 300mg first day than 200mg/daily for week 1, than 100mg/daily for week 2? Thanks for any input.

 

[acneman]

from irongames clomid faq

When do I start Clomid?
Testosterone Enanthate:......... 2 weeks after last injection

Clomid Therapy

300mgs on day 1.....100mgs for 10 days.... 50mgs for 10 days


how bout this use the hcg during the last 2 weeks of enanthate and stop the hcg at the same time as the enanthate

then follow the above instructions


but i would stop the fina early and save 2 weeks worth of fina and run it at the end of the enanthate with the hcg then start the clomid one week after fina (faq says 3 days after fina but im counting the hcg and guessing a week)

or use the hcg in last week of enan and second to last week of fina then after last week of fina 3days then clomid

hope this is what you were asking

 

[projection]

Thanks acneman for the reply. Ive got plenty of fina, so are you saying to kind of overlap it at the end? So clomid will be two weeks after last shot of enanthate with fina at the end, but run the fina a week after last shot of enanthate and HCG a week before? Kind of confusing I know, but your response is what I was looking for.

 

[superchicken]

500iu ed for 10 days, timing the hcg to end 5 days before clomid therapy starts. dont adjust the regular clomid therapy times, keep them the same distance from last gear shot as normal. the inclusion of an anti aromatose should be used during hcg treatment and clomid therapy, and nolva at 10mg starting w/ the hcg, until clomid starts is also a good idea.

large infrequent hcg doses are far from optimal, they can desensitize the leydig cells to lh(which is bad espescially considering you about to start clomid to promote lh production)
and also increase potential sides greatly. hcgs life in the body is very short lived, hence ed injections being superior, although the boost in test may remain for up to around 5 days following a shot of hcg.


end the fina 3 days before clomid starts.

 

[mdd]

500iu ed for 10 days, timing the hcg to end 5 days before clomid therapy starts.

right on. this is good advice, alot of ppl use alot more hcg than really needed. however, this time i tried 1k iu EOD for 2 weeks, we will see how it goes

 

[projection]

Thanks guys for great info!
I'll run the HCG like superchicken suggest. BTW, so far gains and strength especially have been great on the fina, can't wait for the enanthate to kick in this will be the third week. Later.