i have long since given up on designer shakes. i get my 11lb tub of whey about every couple of months or so and just mix it with 2% milk, and i'm good to go. i'm so used to the taste now that i just refer to the flavor as "protein shake flavor." all those protein drinks that come in the little packets and whatnot have always turned out to be nappiefied and shitburgerlicious. they beez too expensive, too.