Proviron and test for HRT

[androjunkie]

I'm thinking of experimenting a little bit. I've been on 100mgs of test cyp EW for about 3 yrs. now. I have to take a-dex constantly due to estrogen buildup(I'm very sensitive to estrogen). Anyways, I was thinking about lowering the dose of test to 50mgs EW and taking 25-50mgs of proviron a day. The reason for this is that when I used it on a cycle a while back, I didn't have ANY problems with estrogen sides, in fact, I never looked better, muscles were full yet I wasn't holding any water at all. I got awesome pumps and felt strong all the time. I wasn't using any e-blockers other than proviron at the time, so I know it had to be the proviron. Usually the e-blockers make me feel weak or unusually tired which obviously isn't good for training.

I also figured that it may free up some of my bound test seeing as though proviron binds so well to SHBG. I know that I made great gains on that cycle at lower than my usual doses. Has anybody ever tried this? Is it a stupid idea? Feedback would be appreciated. I know that proviron was used for HRT so I figured it wouldn't be harmful for long term use. Maybe I'm wrong. I just figured that it would solve all of my estrogen problems and maybe give me some off cycle gains as well.

 

[Indy]

I'm thinking of experimenting a little bit. I've been on 100mgs of test cyp EW for about 3 yrs. now. I have to take a-dex constantly due to estrogen buildup(I'm very sensitive to estrogen). Anyways, I was thinking about lowering the dose of test to 50mgs EW and taking 25-50mgs of proviron a day. The reason for this is that when I used it on a cycle a while back, I didn't have ANY problems with estrogen sides, in fact, I never looked better, muscles were full yet I wasn't holding any water at all. I got awesome pumps and felt strong all the time. I wasn't using any e-blockers other than proviron at the time, so I know it had to be the proviron. Usually the e-blockers make me feel weak or unusually tired which obviously isn't good for training.

I also figured that it may free up some of my bound test seeing as though proviron binds so well to SHBG. I know that I made great gains on that cycle at lower than my usual doses. Has anybody ever tried this? Is it a stupid idea? Feedback would be appreciated. I know that proviron was used for HRT so I figured it wouldn't be harmful for long term use. Maybe I'm wrong. I just figured that it would solve all of my estrogen problems and maybe give me some off cycle gains as well.

I cant answer all your questions as I just got my first shipment of Proviron after reading up on it. But I think I will start it into my current cycle asap as an anti-e after reading your testimony. I am starting to get pretty sensitive to sore nips and I take nolvadex up to 40mg / day, and a-dex and they do not take care of it. I'm going to try out just the same myself.

 

[Triple J]

The combination of inj. T with proviron is ideal for HRT, especially once one becomes a high converter (T to E). You can reduce your T dosage and your anti-e with this combo, and you'll look harder and feel better. Although I would not go below 100mg/wk that is barely replacement levels. You may want to break it up into 2 shots/wk to even out blood levels and reduce sides related to the weekly spike you get with your current regimen.

 

[androjunkie]

I cant answer all your questions as I just got my first shipment of Proviron after reading up on it. But I think I will start it into my current cycle asap as an anti-e after reading your testimony. I am starting to get pretty sensitive to sore nips and I take nolvadex up to 40mg / day, and a-dex and they do not take care of it. I'm going to try out just the same myself.

Are you doing it for HRT, or are you using it on a cycle? If you're anything like me, you'll love it on a cycle. As I stated before, it made nipple sensitivity dissapear, helped me burn fat, and I got better than my usual gains on that cycle. I think it was due to the SHBG binding properties of proviron. Even if my HRT thing doesn't work out(which I think it will) I'll never run an estrogenic cycle without it again.

 

[androjunkie]

The combination of inj. T with proviron is ideal for HRT, especially once one becomes a high converter (T to E). You can reduce your T dosage and your anti-e with this combo, and you'll look harder and feel better. Although I would not go below 100mg/wk that is barely replacement levels. You may want to break it up into 2 shots/wk to even out blood levels and reduce sides related to the weekly spike you get with your current regimen.

Yeah, I figured I wouldn't need to use an e-blocker other than the proviron given the fact that I'll be using less test than I am now. My body also seems to react very well to proviron, as opposed to a-dex or nolvadex. If I actually take enough of either one of those to make my bloat go away than I end up feeling very weak and tired. Not only do they take the bloat off me, but they rob me of my pumps in the gym and my muscles get flat and lose a lot of size, its almost like I'm not getting blood flow to my skeletal muscles. I've experimented with dosages on both with the same results. Its either too much and I get the above mentioned sides or its not enough to take the water bloat off and it just decreases nipple sensitivity. I hate being overly sensitive to estrogen! Thanks for letting me vent, I'm just running out of options and am getting frustrated.

 

[Dial_tone]

Why not keep the test the same and lower the a-dex? 50mg Proviron and 20-40mg Nolvadex should work and improve your cholesterol to boot.

 

[Indy]

Are you doing it for HRT, or are you using it on a cycle? If you're anything like me, you'll love it on a cycle. As I stated before, it made nipple sensitivity dissapear, helped me burn fat, and I got better than my usual gains on that cycle. I think it was due to the SHBG binding properties of proviron. Even if my HRT thing doesn't work out(which I think it will) I'll never run an estrogenic cycle without it again.

Nope, no HRT just a cycle. Trying to lighten things up to rid myself of the nipple soreness.