Proviron and Liquidex

[FLmuscles]

I'm just in the last weeks of my present bulking cycle, and I'm already planning the next one! (I'll post the results of this one when done, as it's been a good one!) I typically get a fair amount of fluid retention during my cycles, all of which have included test. in one form or another. THe only anti-estrogen I've used in the past has been Nolvadex, as the fluid retention is really the only e-related side efffect I get--no gyno, very little fat gain--and I do think the fluid can help protect joints and all while mass-building, so I don't mind it unless it gets really bad in which case I'd up my Nolvadex intake.

Still, next cycle I want to try Liquidex (Armidex) to stop the estrogen aromatization entirely. I'm really intersted in Proviron too, not only as an anti-e, but because it allows the unbinding of test. to increase free test. levels in the blood. I know Nolvadex/Proviron is a typical anti-e course, but is Liquidex/Proviron a good option too? I'd really like to try the combo. to see if I can't make good gains without the bloat next time. Anyone done this combo. with a cycle?

THANKS

 

[FLmuscles]

Bump. Anybody???

 

[lawnsaver]

Dont use N-dex unless you see gyno!

Since you didnt post any experience or doses, I cant really help.

If you want to completely suppress estrogen, which I dont recomend as it is key to growth, use aromasin.

.5mg to 1mg EOD will do the trick with A-dex and depending on dose, 50-75mg of proviron will work nicely!

 

[genarr3]

Try the Proviron. If it doesn't work use the L-dex.

 

[baby_bbol]

I would you Liquidex or arimidex 1mg/day with 50 mg proviron a day.

whay will your next bulk cycle look like?

 

[FLmuscles]

As I say, I don't get gyno, just a fair amount of fluid retention/bloating. I've read mixed ideas about estrogen suppressiojn, some claiming that the estrogen actually does increase lean muscle gains by increasing androgen receptor sensitivity, others claiming that complete estrogen supresssion allows them to make great gains that are hard and not puffy. My cycles usu. include an oral (dbol or anadrol) and test. which of course can all cause bloat, plus other gear like Deca, WInny , and Fina (first time this cycle) spaced throughout. I've always held off of the Nolvadex until my bloating got really bad--sometimes I have troubles tying my shoes, like a big fat slug because of the fluid bloat!

SO next time I thought I would try the Liquidex/Proviron to see how my gains go without all that bloat. I haven't fully planned next cycle, but it will be something like: 12 weeks; Weeks 1-6 Anadrol,Test., Deca, Fina. Weeks 6-10 Dbol, Test, Deca, Fina, add WInny at Week 8. Weeks 10-12 Winny and Fina. Also GH, 6 IU/day throughout.

I was especailly impressed with Metal Gear's recent post and pic. results. He and I have very similar bodies and weights, but I am bloatier right now, whereas he suppressed that throughout his cycle. SO I'm tempted to try it that way next time.

Any more input would be appreciated.
THANKS BUDS