Prov. or Nolv What do you choose.

[Chris223]

Hey bro's,


This is going to be my question of the day. And YES I have searched on this topic and found good information, but I want to post this topic tonight just to see what kind of reponse I get. I am current on week one of a Sus250 cycle at 500mgs a week. I have 60 tabs of 10mgs Nolv and 80tabs of Prov. that will be in my hand in three days. So this is the question... Which would you take... I read where the Prov. will pretty much stop the raise of Estrogen in the body. Is this so? And then of course you have the Nolv which will bind itself to the recp., but I hear of a lot of case where you can/or will have a good chance of post gyno. After the Nolv wears off and estrogen level arent brought back to a min. So this is another question... I dont care if I lose water weight or a couple of pounds by using one or both. I just dont even want to take any chance what so ever with gyno... So what would you choose the Nolv or Prov? or both? How much? I want to go ahead and start taking something since I am only in my first week... So please help... NOW i know that Arm. is the best for this,but I just can not afford it.... SO help me out.


Thanks,
C

 

[Stew Meat]

Nolvadex will NOT to any degree stop the production of estrogen, however proviron will. Take the proviron ED and the nolvadex should be kept on hand if you start to get gyno. If your nips start to get sore, take 40mg ED for a week or until symptoms subside...



-Stew

 

[Chris223]

Bump for more info

 

[lawnsaver]

What other info do you need. Stew is right on. I like proviron in all of my test/androgen based cycles.

 

[bissenmir]

Here's a question! I'm going to be taking 500mg of sus. and 450mg of deca per week with dbal 30mg per day.
ok, say like i start to get gyno in week four. will then i take nova for week or two but then, oh no, my gyno is getting worse because it's from the deca. How do you know if it's from deca or sus./dbal? Will it be to late?
This question freaks me out!

 

[Anodyne]

Guys, in all cases you would be wise to take BOTH. Take about 20mg/day Nolvadex because this prevents the aromatase enzyme from converting steroids into estrodiol and related estrogens. Take about 25mg/day because this gives some beneficial hardening and more androgen but above all sits in the estrogen receptor sites so that any estrogen made cannot bind to excert its unwanted action. Also, for Bissenmir, you will know that if you are having gyno its more likely to be the deca through progestin activity as you will already have the estrogen base covered.

 

[Anodyne]

Mistake

Sorry this should have read as:

Guys, in all cases you would be wise to take BOTH. Take about 20mg/day NOLVADEX because this prevents the aromatase enzyme from converting steroids into estrodiol and related estrogens. Take about 25mg/day of PROVIRON because this gives some beneficial hardening and more androgen but above all sits in the estrogen receptor sites so that any estrogen made cannot bind to excert its unwanted action. Also, for Bissenmir, you will know that if you are having gyno its more likely to be the deca through progestin activity as you will already have the estrogen base covered

 

[Weam]

Re: Mistake

Sorry this should have read as:

Guys, in all cases you would be wise to take BOTH. Take about 20mg/day NOLVADEX because this prevents the aromatase enzyme from converting steroids into estrodiol and related estrogens. Take about 25mg/day of PROVIRON because this gives some beneficial hardening and more androgen but above all sits in the estrogen receptor sites so that any estrogen made cannot bind to excert its unwanted action. Also, for Bissenmir, you will know that if you are having gyno its more likely to be the deca through progestin activity as you will already have the estrogen base covered

What are you talking about, Nolvadex is not an Antio-aromatase but Proviron is an anti-aromatase not Nolvadex, Nolvadex blocks Estrogen receptors only and as Stew Meat mentioned Nolvadex will NOT to any degree stop the production of estrogen!!!!!

 

[serge]

out of those two, i would definetly go with proviron, it will harder you up as well as help with the estrogen problems

 

[2Thick]

Since proviron is a mild androgen (along with an estrogen inhibitor), it will be the best choice.

Using Nolvadex could result in an estrogen rebound, also.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Neither, Liquidex!