Prop and Masteron question...

[pitbullrocco]

just received my test prop and masteron today!!

currently on week 11 test e @ 500/week and eq @ 400 (2 shots/week).
(frontloaded with sus/deca/eq first 4 weeks, but swapped sus with eth and cut deca out on week 5)

i know many swear by ed or eod shots of prop, but i want to try to get away with e3d. anyone with good experience with that? i have 20ml of 100ml/mg of prop.

and i only got 10ml of 100ml/mg of masteron. this is my first go with it. since i also have proviron to end up my cycle anyway (unless my hair starts falling out), i will probably just go with 50ml with my prop shot. i know someone already said proviron + masteron is a lot of DHT though.....

for last 5 to 8 weeks:
test e 500/week
eq 400/week
prop 100 e3d?
mast 50 e3d?
proviron 50/day

also i have cialis 20mg caps. how would you take those?

OH, btw, for those who've been keeping up with my deca dick and libido problems....its been 8 weeks since last deca shot and i stopped using AI for a few weeks and my libido is now back to RAGING and hardons are up to 90%!! still not 100, but better than 60!!

 

[big greg 82]

its better to do it ed for stable blood levels. you can get away with eod. i never did every 3rd day wit prop or masteron tho. but i would bump up the masteron to 100mg. you should run the prop and masteron 4-8 wks.

prop 100mg
masteron 100mg

 

[big greg 82]

sorry if that dont make sense. i would run the prop at 100mg or 150mg e3d and same thing wit the masteron. run it for the last 5 to 8 weeks. cilias just take one 20mg cap to start off wit.

 

[52_21_30]

Running prop E3d is not a good idea. Blood levels will be all over the place leading to erratic results and sides (bloating, acne, etc). And don't bother with the masteron. Get 50 more ml then run it for 8 weeks with test and another anabolic.

 

[pitbullrocco]

sorry if that dont make sense. i would run the prop at 100mg or 150mg e3d and same thing wit the masteron. run it for the last 5 to 8 weeks. cilias just take one 20mg cap to start off wit.

aite then....yeah i haven't decided if i'm gonna do 5 more weeks or extend it to 8 more weeks....after 4-5 weeks, i'll decide....

i'll try that at e3d to start off with and see how its working out....i'll switch over if i'm not satisfied.....i'm not afraid of the injects....i just want to extend the amount i have to as many weeks as i can!

so i don't have to take the cialis every other day or so? someone told me that a while back....

 

[pitbullrocco]

Running prop E3d is not a good idea. Blood levels will be all over the place leading to erratic results and sides (bloating, acne, etc). And don't bother with the masteron. Get 50 more ml then run it for 8 weeks with test and another anabolic.

50 more ml of what? masteron? thats like $300. is it worth it?

 

[52_21_30]

50 more ml of what? masteron? thats like $300. is it worth it?

Not unless you're very lean to start with and are looking for striations and harndess. But then again, if it's not worth it, why did you buy it in the first place? And why only a vial, what was the point of that?

 

[big greg 82]

20mg should be fine but you'll build up a tolerance to it and might need more after your first few uses. Note that Cialis can take several hours to kick in, but it lasts for 2 days at a time. so you take it as needed....

i agree about the masteron bro, 10ml isnt enuff thats only enuff for 3 wks the most if you are doing eod or every 3rd day.

 

[52_21_30]

I dont think anyone should waste their money on masteron unless like I said they are getting ready for a show or are already lean to start and are looking to harden up. Masteron is a great drug, but the percentage of those that use AAS who can actually benefit from it is small.

 

[big greg 82]

totally agree with 52 21 on that.

just stay with the test,eq,proviorn...

if you want add in tren ace at the end to help wit harden up or even winny.

 

[pitbullrocco]

ok, i'll save the mast for another day.

thanks for the suggestions !! K day

 

[pitbullrocco]

oh i remember why i got it now.....i was under the impression that it had libido-boosting properties....at the time, i needed some libido-boosting chems.....so i had the extra $$ to waste it on the mast just b/c i could.....and i am pretty lean and will be lowering cals the last few weeks to get the veiny/striation look that eq is helping with anyway.....

small amounts don't have libido-boosting effects?

 

[big greg 82]

haha thats why you got the proviorn and the cialis for brother ;]

 

[pitbullrocco]

haha thats why you got the proviorn and the cialis for brother ;]

true that. we'll see....may not even need it......well.....

 

[Muscle Overkill]

I am going to have to disagree with 52 21 31 saying " very few people can benefit from masteron" its a non aromatizing adrogen which tells me lots of quality/lean gains. To me drugs that do little for most people are winni, deca, primo, anabolics. Do a cycle of test and masteron and then do a winni deca cycle you wont even feel it! No comparison !

 

[52_21_30]

I am going to have to disagree with 52 21 31 saying " very few people can benefit from masteron" its a non aromatizing adrogen which tells me lots of quality/lean gains. To me drugs that do little for most people are winni, deca, primo, anabolics. Do a cycle of test and masteron and then do a winni deca cycle you wont even feel it! No comparison !

No offense bro but I've seen many of your posts and you're obviously a newb and don't have a good grasp on what you're talking about (Remember you were saying how you wanted to try GH to "bulk up" in like 2 months because you weren't satisfied with 500 mg test???). The comparisons you're speaking of make no sense. Why would I do a deca/winny cycle? That's just stupid. Did you get that from Jose Canceso's book or something. Just because masteron is a non-aromatizing androgen does not mean it will give "lots of quality lean mass gains". You're really thinking more along the lines of trenbolone here. If you don't believe me, go ahead and blow some good money on 8 weeks on masteron and test. If you are not very lean and dieting hard you will see nothing more than you would with test alone.

You really need to do a lot more reading and get some more experience. I'm not trying to be a dick but that's just the way it is.

 

[Muscle Overkill]

I have heard and read that gh, insulin,thyroid hormone and test is the most snergystic combination available( I am not saying its true just what I have read and there is definantly some science behind it ) PERIOD and that why I was asking about the growth. I know GH is one of the weekest things you can take as a stand alone or in a stack for that matter. I am not rich but I have the extra cash to take it. As far as the masterone goes maybe I am wrong, I have never taken it but on paper it seems like a great drug. Its like people say they hold less water and are leaner on prop than any other form of test but on paper thats not possible. By the way I do know what I am talking about I have A Bachelors Degree in Exercise Science. My first show I won the Overall my second show I won both my divisions and lost the overal by one vote to a guy who was 5 inches taller and 40lbs heavier. Thats non tested body building in my state they always go with size in AZ ( thats another story ). The reason I may ask some basic/stupid questions sometimes is like I said in one of my posts I have been off sauce for 5 years and people are taking and doing alot of different/new stuff today than they were 5 years ago.
ps I agree with almost 99% of the shit you post and I WOULD NEVER RECCOMEND GH TO SOMEONE ON A BUDGET its a waste of money ! I just got the money to waste.

 

[krishna]

Not enough masteron. Get more or you'll be wasting it. Do at least eod on your shots.

 

[Muscle Overkill]

Who else think "only a small number of people can benefit from masteron" ?
Just curious cuz I want to to try it along with tren ace, test prop.

 

[52_21_30]

Who else think "only a small number of people can benefit from masteron" ?
Just curious cuz I want to to try it along with tren ace, test prop.

I wouldnt use it in that stack unless prepping for a show. Tren is so strong it will overpower many of the effects of masteron. If you're lean to begin with then go ahead. It should make you exremely hard, grainy, and vascular.

 

[H_T_]

i hate shooting ED. it's a task.

 

[52_21_30]

i hate shooting ED. it's a task.

That's why god made girlfriends...seriously though I can only reach my quads. My girl gets delts, and glutes. If I didn't have someone to pin me I'd never be able to do ED cycles. As long as you're not pinning 3 cc ED or using some horrifically painful shit like T400 it's not that painful at all.