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prohormones...how close are they

jgalb78

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how close are pro hormones compared to the illegal steroids? which one would be the closest 2 the illegal steroids
 
They're very close. In fact, a lot of the so called "pro hormones" are legal designer steroids and can put on serious muscle

Helladrol is my favorite. It converts to Tbol in a small amount and produces similar gains to it, as well as sides.
 
jgalb78 said:
I am using helladrol... I was just wondering the actual difference and the strongest one
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Helladrol is very strong... Its similar to tbol... Adding sarms lgd4033 and gw 501516 would make this a cylce where you could realistically add 15-20 lbs of lean quality size
 
jgalb78 said:
how close are pro hormones compared to the illegal steroids? which one would be the closest 2 the illegal steroids
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There were several 'prohormones' that were simply designer oral AAS. They were just touted 'ph's'
to jump around legal loopholes.
 
Jbranken said:
They're very close. In fact, a lot of the so called "pro hormones" are legal designer steroids and can put on serious muscle

Helladrol is my favorite. It converts to Tbol in a small amount and produces similar gains to it, as well as sides.
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What sides did you notice most present with Helladrol?

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Depends who ph.The right ones are designer steriods!

beasstdrol,helladrol,epistrong,dieselbolan.Some have since been banned but these are my all time favorites. all sold at mr supps

im hearing alot of good things about black extreme, have yet to use it.
 
the most popular pro hormone is andro which was popularized years ago by mark mcgwire.

beastdrol, superdrol are not pro hormones at all.. they are legit designer steroids.


now the supps that are legally sold at mr supps like helladrol, katanadrol etc are strong and just as strong as any oral AAS. i would consider those a cross between pro hormone and designer steroids. it would be a major mistake for anyone to take them and not run a proper PCT or be taken by a teenager.
 
I remember buying a "stack" off prosource years back. Prolly 13-14 yes back. Included Andro and 2 others. Got real strong but bloated as fuck. Put on some good muscle too.

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stevesmi said:
the most popular pro hormone is andro which was popularized years ago by mark mcgwire.

beastdrol, superdrol are not pro hormones at all.. they are legit designer steroids.


now the supps that are legally sold at mr supps like helladrol, katanadrol etc are strong and just as strong as any oral AAS. i would consider those a cross between pro hormone and designer steroids. it would be a major mistake for anyone to take them and not run a proper PCT or be taken by a teenager.
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So helladrol and katanadrol could be shipped to Australia ? No illegal substances in there, our customs are very strict :(
 
Jbranken said:
They're very close. In fact, a lot of the so called "pro hormones" are legal designer steroids and can put on serious muscle

Helladrol is my favorite. It converts to Tbol in a small amount and produces similar gains to it, as well as sides.
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What sides are we talking about here? I have never, ever gotten sides from Tbol. I have shred fat, and packed on lean mass with it, but never got sides. I always felt very good on it. If you get sides from Helladrol, just buy Tbol.
 
The sides from Tbol and hella are very similar and are normally very mild. They're common but not everyone's experience is the same. Back/calf pumps, elevated BP, liver toxicity, lipid strain, suppression/shutdown, even gyno and lethargy and some cases. These are no brainers. Ancillaries and cycle support like forma, n2guard, Tudca and hcgen is a must. As long as those are covered, your experience with these will be a positive one.
 
Jbranken said:
The sides from Tbol and hella are very similar and are normally very mild. They're common but not everyone's experience is the same. Back/calf pumps, elevated BP, liver toxicity, lipid strain, suppression/shutdown, even gyno and lethargy and some cases. These are no brainers. Ancillaries and cycle support like forma, n2guard, Tudca and hcgen is a must. As long as those are covered, your experience with these will be a positive one.
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Thanks J.. ill have all those on deck. Although I cant use forma, I have a infant and cant take that chance so ill substitute Aromasin. Got Tudca on deck as well w/N2guard... im even thinking of having test stack #17 in PCT along with everything else

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Im stacking Katana with the Helladrol after I run this triple stack.. cant wait

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When do you decide if you should go up in dosage of helladrol... Right now I am at the end if week 2 taking 75mg a day
 
jgalb78 said:
When do you decide if you should go up in dosage of helladrol... Right now I am at the end if week 2 taking 75mg a day
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If you aren't experiencing negative sides, you can up the dose. I normally do 75/75/100/100/125/125. If you aren't liking the sides at 125mg, you can always back it down again.
 
Aussi muscle said:
So helladrol and katanadrol could be shipped to Australia ? No illegal substances in there, our customs are very strict :(
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I honestly don't know.. that would be a question to ask among your other australians on here or mr supps customer support. one thing is for sure though they would refund you if it did get taken.
 
Shrine1 said:
Thanks J.. ill have all those on deck. Although I cant use forma, I have a infant and cant take that chance so ill substitute Aromasin. Got Tudca on deck as well w/N2guard... im even thinking of having test stack #17 in PCT along with everything else

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Aromisin is the best there is! I totally get your concerns; good looking out. Tudca is a seriously amazing supp. During my pct, I double and even triple dose it and it will actually reverse liver damage
 
jgalb78 said:
So just keep increasing the dosage until you feel or see signs (positive or negative)?
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Yea but don't go above 125... At least not for your first few cycles. I've never even gone above that after several hella runs. No reason to. Just always watch your blood pressure/sleep patterns, etc. The pumps may start to get gnarly at 125mg so I wouldnt run it at that dosage for more than a few weeks

Dylan laid out a great helladrol first timer cycle above ^^^. The ostarine is always a great addition, especially if you want to help preserve your new muscle after your cycle.
 
Yes I'he been usuing his first recommended me a could weeks back... On Sunday I will start 100mg, but just wanted to know the signs if it us working on me... I feel like I want to lift and I catch myself doing pushups out of nowhere and flexing more...but that could be just from working out and feeling good about exercising like usual...
 
jgalb78 said:
Yes I'he been usuing his first recommended me a could weeks back... On Sunday I will start 100mg, but just wanted to know the signs if it us working on me... I feel like I want to lift and I catch myself doing pushups out of nowhere and flexing more...but that could be just from working out and feeling good about exercising like usual...
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It's elevated hormone levels and it's sending you into beast mode ;) It's definitely working.
 
stevesmi said:
I honestly don't know.. that would be a question to ask among your other australians on here or mr supps customer support. one thing is for sure though they would refund you if it did get taken.
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Yeah Steve I contacted customer support and they said there have been a few make it through and a few get seized. I really don't want a letter as it then makes it hard to get even research chemicals through. Il start a thread on here and evolutionary and hopefully see if any Aussies have got some through recently.
 
Hey man im from aus too. Its a hit and miss IV had clen seized and some go thru IV had clomid seized and nolva wasn't l. Its really luk tbh.





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dvoted said:
Hey man im from aus too. Its a hit and miss IV had clen seized and some go thru IV had clomid seized and nolva wasn't l. Its really luk tbh.





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Did you recieve a customs warning ? I haven't had any research chems seized yet. Aromasin, clomid and albuterol all got through. Were yours research chems
 
They'd b the same in customs eyes and the law. Steroids aren't illegal per se their illegal without a prescription.





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Aussi muscle said:
Did you recieve a customs warning ? I haven't had any research chems seized yet. Aromasin, clomid and albuterol all got through. Were yours research chems
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Bro, know of helladrol being confiscated recently and Feds dropping by for a chat. I also know of hella getting through, so it's hit and miss bro..... But Aussie customs are strict.... Pm if want more info as I'm Aussie.
 
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