Progesterone blockers

[Kakdiesel]

just curiuos is there are any progesterone blockers besides Winny...would nolva be considered one? i was talkin to a guy in the gym and he was talkin about gyno and stuff and deca/fina..so i chimed in about stanazolol being a progesterone blocker that helps prevent gyno while on fina and/or deca....

we got to talking and i started to wonder if there were any other drugs...

 

[The Almighty]

RU-486

 

[bbkingpin]

I've read Proviron. But I took Deca up to 400mg/week and 20mg of Nolvadex and no Gyno, thank God. Is this Progesterone -induced gyno theory proven?? Has anyone taken Nolvadex and just Deca and gotten gyno? I wonder.

 

[Kakdiesel]

Bump...anybody?

 

[Willyumyum]

winstrol, ru-486

YUM

 

[Kakdiesel]

Am I wrong in assuming nolvadex is also a progesterone blocker??

 

[Willyumyum]

It's an antiestrogen, so no it wont work for progesterone.

YUM

 

[futrmro]

Proviron is the trick. I got "P.G." from deca my last cycle and took 50 mg of proviron ed and it went away. I never get gyno form test but that deca did me in. Thanks to the grace of god and proviron my a-cup is no more

 

[milkbone]

I started having gyno symptoms from fina the first week on it. I stopped and then just out of curiousity, I tried using it again with Nolva and I had the same sore nip symptoms. I've been on the fina again since last Friday using 50mg winny ED and I have yet to have any of the same issues. Occassionly my nips get erect, but I think it's just my apartment being cold. I put on a sweatshirt and everything feels right again. I am one with my nips now after the first fina experience , so I feel like I can safely say that winny does the trick ... at least for me.

RU-486 works also so I'm told but too much trouble finding it. Proviron sounds interesting, I may try that next time.

 

[bbkingpin]

To futrmro

Were you using Nolvadex or any other Anti-E (before Proviron) when Deca gave you gyno? This would conclusively implicate progesterone (rather than estrogen). I've used 400 mg/wk of deca and Nolvadex and no problems. They say that Deca aromatizes (to estrogen?) on higher doses. This whole progesterone induced gyno from Deca is news TO ME and I am curious whether Nolvadex is effective in preventing gyno while on Deca. Does anyone know where the progesterone theory originated????

 

[The_Eviscerator]

According to Bill LLwellyn, he stated that the progesterone converts to estrogen which in turn causes gyno. He also stated that nolvadex or Arimidex will protect you from the mythical "progesterone gyno." I have used nolvadex and arimidex with deca and it seemed to work fine and drop the water bloat. Also... No Gyno.

 

[futrmro]

BB- to answer your question, I had never had any sign whatsoever of gyno from test before. I like to run high amounts of test, like now I'm doing 2 grams a week of cyp. My nipples never got sore or itched. I hope that I'm a superhero and can't get gyno from test. But Deca really fucked me up. My left nipple became a boob overnight. It got really sore and tender So I started taking proviron at 50mg ed and it was gone in about two weeks. Other than that I have never taken nolva or any other anti-e.But this is just me

 

[bbkingpin]

That's interesting.

 

[Mike80]

ru486 is catabolic

I thought it was anti-catabolic, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.