Pro Hormones: What are the working products since the ban in 2005? What will put muscle mass on similar to the prohormones that used to work?

[pitbullrocco]

mike is right. all oral cycles are, well, i'll let someone else touch on that......

food is the most anabolic substance you can put in your body. get a very long subscription of tons of clean foods. (i spend at least $400/month on food.)

i'm not the one to advertise products, but one could have a pretty good argument for the Animal M Stak with DHEA at least 100mg/day, depending on what your body says about it.....etc.

glutamine
bcaa's
creatine
protein
should take up at least 1 cupboard in your kitchen.

get over long, pointy, sharp things. they are your friends.

 

[lanky]

hmmm..i have one product after the PH ban..2,17 dimethyl dht(methyldrol) by SNS...suggested serving was 20-30mg a day..i took two bottles at up to 90mg a day most days 60-70mg..i did not notice any anabolic or androgenic effect from this product..i contacted certain people and spoke my mind on the product..i did not believe this product contained any active chemical..i sugested maybe a problem with the processing and i got a bad few bottles..they then said this product as tested twice before and even tested somehow by a competitor or third party testing which came out close to 98% pure on the raw powder(or something close to that he said) it was capsuled..long story short..we had to agree to disagree.

 

[lanky]

btw..i never had a problem with any substance before the PH ban...

 

[sigmund]

I am getting back into body building and physique enhancement. I would like to first try and see what is available legally that actually works. Is there any steroid alternatives that are androgenic and work well? I see that there seem to be good alternatives to the illegal ancillaries, but not much talk of what is available in the pro-hormone or androgens that are legal. Help a bro out here-

best,
Cal

Perhaps a better option if you're not looking for something as dramatic as a well planned cycle / PCT is to go for the AI supplements or "E2 convertors" (AIFM etc, Indoplex-DIM type products), that are out there and shift your hormonal balance in favour of high free T, lower SHBG / E2 etc. It's much more subtle than any pro-hormone but subsequently far less sides and should give you some anabolic benefits + no big rebound.

Alot of people note the big libido increase on AIFM, so free-t circulation is certainly on the up however you could argue that the most significant factor is the reduction of E2 thus the ratio is what really counts... as to how anabolic this is... i can't tell you, but theoretically it should shift things in your favour if diet / training are spot on.