Fulmonte, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Prohormones are not a joke, THEY WORK. Andrstenedione does not work, but 4-AD does, 1,4AD does, 19NorDIOL does, 5AA does, 1AD DOES. How can you come here and tell peoplewho have used PH;s and got real results that they dont work.
All of these prohormones are very, very effective, not even to mention 1-test which is the God o all legal supps. The only reason many people dont recieve the gains they would like on some prohormones is because they take them in an ineffective delivery system (ex. Oral) or they take too little of each PH. 4AD is 95% as potent as Test when it is injected, How can you say that is junk. Its a 95% as effective, legal form of test, when injected. If you put pure test in a capsule, it would do littleor nothing, but If you put it in a transdermal or inject it, it does wonders. Its the same with prohormones.
Please stick to something that you have knowleedge on.