lartinos said:pro's only take HMB, creatine, and andro. Why else would that be the only stuff they promote.

cbeaks said:I wish I knew who to believe on this matter. You hear a lot of people on the boards saying I know a guy that knows a pro and he's doing 5 grams of test/week. I am afraid some people make up rediculous cycles to rationalize why they aren't a pro. I'm sure there are some professionals that take huge cycles and others that are more conservative. Here is another example of what I am talking about. I have a friend who is personal friends with Dave Palumbo and he was telling me that all of the rumors about top national competitors taking 2-3 grams/week are not true for the most part but they do stay on for a long time. I'm not going to lie though. I enjoy hearing of these guys that come on the boards and talk about how much there buddy who is a professional bodybuilder uses. - cbeaks
magman1 said:heres an ironic thought...pro bodybuilding is called fitness...can it be any further from being healthy...heres another thought i have...with all the top quality products and advice at there fingertips...how could a pro possibly have gyno??? iv seen quite a few
cbeaks said:Serge, yeah I know that Palumbo suggests cycles like that but that is far less than what you hear people saying that most pros and top level amateurs use. - cbeaks
serge said:
you have to keep in mind that he suggests though type of cycles to newbies-intermediate level trainies
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