PRIMOBOLAN, is it worth it ?

[Tryn2]

Primobolan ? Just seeing whoever has been on this is and is it worth the money ? And at what dose did you take it and with what in the stack and what are the gains to be expected ?
Is it anything like Equipoise at all ? It looks like it could have the same results but eq is alot cheaper ?

 

[gilly6993]

due to the high amount of fakes and the price of legit primo I would say go with EQ....if you can afford it and find it I would not go below 400 mg/ week.....

 

[Tryn2]

Is primo and eq kinda of comparible ? They both seem to give clean gains and low on sides. Doses seem to be good at around 400 to 600 per week? Eq is a lot cheaper. I know real primo would be better but it is pricey. So are eq and primo similar ?


less importasnt-What could I stack with them that is reasonably priced and is not test. I want to leave test for my third cycle. I am thinking eq at 400 per week with something for clean mass gains then Ill do 600 per week for my third cyle with test....

 

[guards]

EQ and anavar

 

[Tryn2]

If I run the eq at 400 per week for 12 weeks what should the anavar schedule look like ? I know sides should not be there I'll have liquidex on hand anyway ? But for pct should it be hcg or clomid therapy ? I see so many reviews about that...

 

[Stillgoing]

Unless you are competing at a national level, you should have no need to try primo for all the reasons Gilly mentioned. If your a newb, test, eq, deca, etc are all you need. You should set up simple little cycles and spend your thinking time worrying about your nutrition and training.

 

[Tryn2]

Yeah Im not I think I want to run a primo cycle with anavar / Just looking for the anavar dose ? I ran one cycle so far but I need to dial my diet in. So I am going to wait until spring to do my next run of it. My traing is fine but diet is a roller coaster but it is getting better. For what its worth when Im on my diet and traing seem to improve a great deal. I think Im mentally in the zone unno ? Thanks for all your comments though...

 

[eviction]

if you have legit primo it is tha shiz

 

[Stillgoing]

Yeah Im not I think I want to run a primo cycle with anavar / Just looking for the anavar dose ? I ran one cycle so far but I need to dial my diet in. So I am going to wait until spring to do my next run of it. My traing is fine but diet is a roller coaster but it is getting better. For what its worth when Im on my diet and traing seem to improve a great deal. I think Im mentally in the zone unno ? Thanks for all your comments though...

Its obviously up to you. FYI, you will be wasting your money on the primo because cheaper compounds that are just as effective and present much lower fake risk are available.

 

[babbabuee]

if you have the money, THERE ARE REAL PRIMO'S OUT THERE and in my opinion, if you can afford it, why wouldn't you, it's only your body and health. if you want to go one step farther, get some primo and have it tested, I did.

 

[satchboogie]

its safer than any other steroid.
enough said!

 

[jh1]

its safer than any other steroid.
enough said!

Anavar?

 

[Tryn2]

What is the common dose for anavar ?

What would the dose look like with EQ for 12 weeks at 400/wk ?

 

[solidspine]

I was able to obtain real primo 2 years ago, I like long cycles and ran it with other gear for at least 14 weeks, 400mg week average.

Did Primo, test t-400 the entire 14 weeks, russian d-bol first 4 weeks, stopped because I thought I was going to pop, and fina the last 4 weeks, liquidex, anit e's and PCT.

Best cycle (result wise) ever completed by me.

 

[majutsu]

blah blah blah primo is great. Its really only 1/2 as much as deca or sust in cost, eq requires 800 for good effect, primo can get by with 500-600 for great effect in me. Usually eq is 200mg/ml and primo 100mg/ml, so again eq only 1/2 as much cc per cc. In terms of less ancillaries, effect, and great health profile, primo easily compensates for its cost. Just stick to Turkish primo and you should be alright as to fakes. Primo is my favorite "girly" steroid; nothing is like test+deca for thickness, but between anavar, eq, tren, primo, etc primo wins hands down (yes I said tren). I know I talk alot about eq, because I like test+deca+eq for bread and butter stacks. But primo is the bomb! Most people who knock primo don't know its awesome power near a gram a week. Arnold didn't use primo for nothing folks . . .

 

[Stillgoing]

its safer than any other steroid.
enough said!

You think, ehhh?? Maybe clinically, side by side there is some minimal difference between test & primo on bloodwork values, but, in the context of my statement to a guy who is running his first or second cycle and is dosing between 250 and 500mg for 10-12wks, to say there is any difference in the "safeness" of the two; I would disagree with that.

For the newb just trying to make some gains, its all about cost vs benefit & risks. IMO, test wins hands down in this equation. Of course, thats only based on my 15yrs experience and 20 or 30 cycles. I don't have any studies to back that up.

Also, in no way am I dismissing primo as a good drug and a viable arrow in the quiver of any competitive bodybuilder. Please make sure you take my statement in the context being discussed here, for this guy.

 

[satchboogie]

You think, ehhh?? Maybe clinically, side by side there is some minimal difference between test & primo on bloodwork values, but, in the context of my statement to a guy who is running his first or second cycle and is dosing between 250 and 500mg for 10-12wks, to say there is any difference in the "safeness" of the two; I would disagree with that.

so you mean to say that sides like blood pressure, cholesteterol and acne, for example, arent less pronounced with primo use?

 

[Tryn2]

I understand you all. However I want to save what I believe is the harsher drug,test until my third go around.

- I think I am intrested in these combos
eq weeks 1-12 400/wk
anavar ?

or maybe
eq weeks 1-12 400/wk &
deca weeks 1-10 300/wk

I may run primo but do really think for me 400 a week eq wont do shit and I do need to up it to 600 ? If that is the case primo may not be that much more expensive.

 

[Tryn2]

also if Primo is the shit with such less sides is it obatainable from any of the ug labs ?

 

[majutsu]

I would definitely pick primo over deca+eq. Deca+eq is a scary sounding stack for my cock. . . I would need proviron or test or something . . . You ought to do a primo+test stack next and prepare to really fly

 

[solidspine]

I will say it again Primo is the best for keeping gains, even when cutting, better than deca, eq or even test. If you want to add lean muscle and keep it for 10 years try primo.

 

[Stillgoing]

You think, ehhh?? Maybe clinically, side by side there is some minimal difference between test & primo on bloodwork values, but, in the context of my statement to a guy who is running his first or second cycle and is dosing between 250 and 500mg for 10-12wks, to say there is any difference in the "safeness" of the two; I would disagree with that.

so you mean to say that sides like blood pressure, cholesteterol and acne, for example, arent less pronounced with primo use?

I guess I'm not getting through that thickly muscled & shredded cranium of yours!!

Again, there may be some minimal improvement in those items over the period test vs primo. But for your newb doing a cycle and considering the cost vs benefit & risk equation, I'd go with test. That's all. I'm not knocking the beloved primo bro. Me likey primoee.

 

[Taurus50]

all this primo info has been great. I am looking hard at trying it on my next (3rd cycle). don't know yet though, i'll have to see if i can get it and at what cost.

What i was wanting to know is how should anavar be taken with a 12 or 14 week cycle to see good solid gains?

Thanks guys

 

[Tryn2]

Just curious effective primo dose ?

 

[nadr7891]

I understand you all. However I want to save what I believe is the harsher drug,test until my third go around.

for me, Test is not harsh at all at low dosages. i've found that i have to add it to any cycle. i feel like shit by the second or third week if i don't. i only use 200-250mg a week, i always use Prop and i've never had ANY adverse side effects from using Test. the effects i've had from adding low-dose Test to milder cycles have been only positive and i'm a big believer in it. i've had to prove it to myself twice now, but i finally believe. and besides all of that, being on Test FEELS SOOOO GOOD.

Nadr

 

[sdmorris]

just curious, but i hav 9 weeks of primo at 400mg and 10ml of eq (200mg/ml). was wondering if i could use these together to make a longer cycle, or should i just buy more primo to make it longer?

thanks for any answers

 

[TheRide]

due to the high amount of fakes and the price of legit primo I would say go with EQ....if you can afford it and find it I would not go below 400 mg/ week.....

Ditto. Primo is a GREAT drug, but $$$$ and tough to find legit. But in a perect word I would do:

600mg Primo for 10 weeks
6 weeks of Winstrol EOD

Well, back to reality.... creatine and protein... F--K!!

 

[TheRide]

I understand you all. However I want to save what I believe is the harsher drug,test until my third go around.

- I think I am intrested in these combos
eq weeks 1-12 400/wk
anavar ?

or maybe
eq weeks 1-12 400/wk &
deca weeks 1-10 300/wk

I may run primo but do really think for me 400 a week eq wont do shit and I do need to up it to 600 ? If that is the case primo may not be that much more expensive.

EQ is Deca are similar... wouldn't run them together... EQ/Test, EQ/Winny, EQ/Var... My 0.02

 

[Mavy]

Of course, thats only based on my 15yrs experience and 20 or 30 cycles. I don't have any studies to back that up.

Thats pretty funny bro. Damn .... thats a lot of cycles. You really dont need studies when you have cycled that much. Are you on HRT?

For the newb just trying to make some gains, its all about cost vs benefit & risks. IMO, test wins hands down in this equation.

I think that you have it backwards here bro. I find that the newer you are to aas, the more money you will ditch out on a cycle for safetly and minimal sides. This was the case for me anyways and MANY newbies i see posting so much. Primo and Var seem to attract many newbies because of the minimal side effects of these drugs compared to some of the more harsher androgens.

Then the more you cycle, and get away with any sides, you start to say to yourself ... damn thats a lot of money for 8 weeks of var and primo, might try some test and dbol this time around, save me more than half the cycle. And so the list goes .... The thing is with a lot of the androgens, you pack on huge mass, then loose some to end up with your net gain. With primo and Var its a slow consistant perminant gain. I would much rather gain my mass like this. Its definately not as drastic, but it just seems to be less stressfull on your body that way, instead of gaining big and loosing. I would much rather prefer the slow steady solid dense gains.

If money were not an issue with me, the only 2 substances I would ever use would be primo and var stacked. Might throw a small dose of sust in too hehehe.

Mavy

 

[georgie24]

Thats pretty funny bro. Damn .... thats a lot of cycles. You really dont need studies when you have cycled that much. Are you on HRT?




I think that you have it backwards here bro. I find that the newer you are to aas, the more money you will ditch out on a cycle for safetly and minimal sides. This was the case for me anyways and MANY newbies i see posting so much. Primo and Var seem to attract many newbies because of the minimal side effects of these drugs compared to some of the more harsher androgens.

Then the more you cycle, and get away with any sides, you start to say to yourself ... damn thats a lot of money for 8 weeks of var and primo, might try some test and dbol this time around, save me more than half the cycle. And so the list goes .... The thing is with a lot of the androgens, you pack on huge mass, then loose some to end up with your net gain. With primo and Var its a slow consistant perminant gain. I would much rather gain my mass like this. Its definately not as drastic, but it just seems to be less stressfull on your body that way, instead of gaining big and loosing. I would much rather prefer the slow steady solid dense gains.

If money were not an issue with me, the only 2 substances I would ever use would be primo and var stacked. Might throw a small dose of sust in too hehehe.

Mavy

what about primo/var/sust/ hgh hehehe

 

[satchboogie]

mavy summed it up like a pro.

 

[Stillgoing]

Thats pretty funny bro. Damn .... thats a lot of cycles. You really dont need studies when you have cycled that much. Are you on HRT?

I think that you have it backwards here bro. I find that the newer you are to aas, the more money you will ditch out on a cycle for safetly and minimal sides. This was the case for me anyways and MANY newbies i see posting so much. Primo and Var seem to attract many newbies because of the minimal side effects of these drugs compared to some of the more harsher androgens.

Then the more you cycle, and get away with any sides, you start to say to yourself ... damn thats a lot of money for 8 weeks of var and primo, might try some test and dbol this time around, save me more than half the cycle. And so the list goes .... The thing is with a lot of the androgens, you pack on huge mass, then loose some to end up with your net gain. With primo and Var its a slow consistant perminant gain. I would much rather gain my mass like this. Its definately not as drastic, but it just seems to be less stressfull on your body that way, instead of gaining big and loosing. I would much rather prefer the slow steady solid dense gains.

If money were not an issue with me, the only 2 substances I would ever use would be primo and var stacked. Might throw a small dose of sust in too hehehe.

Mavy

What I think you'll find bro as you've been in the game longer is that in fact, gains from primo and var ARE NOT more sustainable than gains from test. And on 250 to 500mg per week, the sides should not be much or any different as well. Sooooo, I guess we're back to price, availability and fake risk.

Further, your obviously being much to dramatic on the massive immediate gains of test and harsh side effects vs the slow steady gains on primo and var. For what seems like the tenth time on this thread, we are talking about a newbs first cycle, and dosages under 500mg bro.

"If money were not an issue with me, the only 2 substances I would ever use would be primo and var stacked"

Ahhh, yeah, no shit, you and everyone else.

 

[Stillgoing]

mavy summed it up like a pro.

He is a pro, isn't he?!?!

 

[Redux]

No one seems to want to answer you on the effective Anavar dose. I have read you want to go 30-40mg a day. Prepare to pay out the ass.