Primo Acetate Q&A

[terrapin]

There have been several posts recently about the oral form of primo - primo acetate. There is renewed interest in this compound because it is now being made by at least two very reliable labs and the powder form is also available. I have seen several posts where people say: "f*ck primo acetate" or "its not worth the money" or some variation of the two. Now, I am not saying that its the greatest AAS in the world, but it has its purpose, and when used in the correct doses it is a fantastic compound. I know from experience because I have used it and when I can get my hands on more, I'll use it again.

The above arguments against oral primo mirror the arguments I heard several years ago about anavar - its too weak or too expensive. Now that good quality var is available, most people use it their cycles because the benefits are evident. Its not too expensive or too weak.

I post this because I want to hear from anyone who has tried the oral primo and been dissatisfied with the results. I am also hoping to raise the interest in this compound so it will become more easily available. Remember, price isn't a problem for everyone and if you want a good compound, with little sides that works great with a cutting cycle, primo acetate is a good choice.

BTW - I happend to love the injectable primo as well - both are great compounds.

 

[Lumberg]

primo=:thumbs:

 

[terrapin]

primo=:thumbs:

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[under]

Would love to use primo, but my hair is more important....

Does the tabs cause mpb as well.

 

[terrapin]

Would love to use primo, but my hair is more important....

Does the tabs cause mpb as well.

You know, I have never heard the hair problem until yesterdays post - i never had problems with primo at 400mg/day. Seems like other people have had problems though. I am not sure what causes the hair loss, there seems to be contradicting statements on the post about primo and hair loss.

 

[Lumberg]

didn't there used to be a smiley of a guy with this thumb up, like thumbs up?

 

[Paulo]

Would love to use primo, but my hair is more important....

Does the tabs cause mpb as well.

It's not the ester but the primary compound, so yes, it would. If you are pre-disposed to MPB that is.

One of those things you probably won't find out until you try it...

I have had several friends, including our beloved Jenetic, report shedding issues while on Primo even though he is not predisposed to MPB. But, I count them in the minority of primo users. The overwhelming majority don't seem to encounter this issue. Bear in mind, however, I have not embarked on any proper statistical analysis to support my statements, lol.

Btw, I never said oral acetate was crap, just that you'll have to consume a lot of it to equal comparable injection levels. Just because Bill Roberts says that you get 50%, doesn't make it true.

I've been searching for actual studies, but haven't found any yet, to reveal some actual figures. In my opinion, anectdotal evidence is quite invalid in reference to bioavailability claims.


I think Primo is definitely in a class of its own. Especially if one is sensitive to sides of the more common compounds. However, for ME, its really doesn't raise much interest, since I get everything I'd ever want and more out of the less exotic oils. But that's my personal interaction. Many others don't have the same fortune. On the other hand, I would not rule out sampling some of this compound by any means.

 

[Anthony Starks]

Now that good quality var is available, most people use it their cycles because the benefits are evident.

Come on, thats not true at all. Look at most people's cycles and you will see test, dbol, maybe eq, but not anavar. Why is it that anything new or different comes out you get people who swear it is the greatest compound around? I'm sure it has uses for some hypersensitive person out there, but primo, and especially primo acetate is not the right choice for MOST people out there.

 

[Paulo]

Yes, anavar is certainly a very "new OR different" compound, being it was patented over 40 years ago. Same with methenolone acetate, nearly 50 years ago.

But, regardless of that, I am inclined to agree about the primo ace. However, I think var is an excellent compound for a cycle, its just that I feel most people don't take enough to experience what the hype is all about.

 

[Anthony Starks]

Yes, anavar is certainly very "new and different" compound, being it was patented over 40 years ago. Same with methenolone acetate, nearly 50 years ago.

If you are going to quote me, at least take the 30 seconds to actually read my post and get it right. I said new OR different, and those are both compounds that are different than what people normally cycle (with good reason). The new refers more to supplements than roids since there really has been nothing new out for years, but you certainly see the same type of hype when things like ALA for instance were introduced.

 

[Paulo]

Ok, well, I didn't make the leap from the current discussion on steroids, to a commentary on the supplement industry. And I did misquote you, apologies for that. It has been corrected.

Tests and nandrolones are very solid products. I can't argue with that. I commonly state a preference towards the simple compounds. However, things like winny, var, turanabol, etc, certainly deserve consideration. I'm pretty sure that price has a lot to do with these compounds being less popular. Kinda like how a lot of people dream about owning porches, bmws, ferraris, etc but end up going with the ol' cheap and reliable hondas and toyotas. But for those of use who can either afford or have solid low price connections to the more exotic stuff, there's no reason not to consider adding it to a cycle.

And, in my opinion, many of the new or different supplements out there are quite effective. Finally. It has certainly taken a while.

But, I totally agree that new stuff gets over-hyped. Mainly due to a natural tendency to equate "new" with "improved".

So, it almost seems that we're on the same page here.

 

[terrapin]

Excellent discussion and I appreciate the feedback. I never suggested that people SUBSTITUTE dbol/test/eq for var, I simply said that more people are adding it to their cycles - which is true. Also, considering the fact that 10mg doses are easily available, most people now take the required amount and see good results. I agree that most people associate "new" with "improved", which we know is not true. All that I am suggesting is that because primo acetate has not been out in readily available 50mg tablets most people don't know what they are talking about when it comes effectiveness. Most stuff I read was written years ago when the most available form was 5mg tabs - completely useless.

I have a personal interest in these more 'exotic' compounds b/c I am very sensitive to test/deca/dbol type compounds - which is unfortunate, but true.

 

[Anthony Starks]

So, it almost seems that we're on the same page here.

I think so too. I just wanted to clear up that I am not a moron and I know that Var, and especially Primo, have been around for a long time. My only contention with your viewpoint would be the implication that Test is an "ol' cheap and reliable hondas and toyotas" while in my opinion it is actually the luxury car of AS - for most people it will give the best gains to side effect ratio around. I would liken var and primo more to electric cars - neat inventions, but not what you want to be driving around on a daily basis.