Pre-contest Cycle help for first show

[halfaclue]

100mg Suspension 11cc
50mg Anadrol qt 42
? novaldex qt 32
20mcg Clen qt 570
? T-3 qt 20
250mg DNP qt 65
100mg Masteron qt 25
? Clomid qt 35
200mg Deca 20cc
100mg EQ 20cc
50mg Winny qt 85

I have 13 weeks until the show. I plan on adding NYC and yohimburn around week 8. I would like any and all cycle suggestions. Also if there is ONE thing you would add other then GH, let me know. Thanks for the help Bros.

 

[Stillgoing]

Ok, I'll take a shot, how about:

(weeks are count-down to the show, so "reverse order"):

Anadrol: 6-1: 50mg ED
Susp: 9-7: 50mg ED
Deca: 13-8: 600mg per week
EQ: 13-4: 200mg per week
Winny: 8-1: 50mg ED
Mast: 3-0: 100mg ED
Nolv: 3-0: 20mg ED
T3: 3-0: 25mg ED
Clen: 2wks on, 2wks off, NYC in between. Dosage: ramp up to 80-100mcg ED
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While this is not totally optimal, it certainly will work just fine (remember, its your first show - I ran winny 50mg ED, primo 200mg per week for my first show). I assume you will be clean prior to 13wks out. If so, the problem area with this cycle is, starting with only deca & eq, you have the kick-in time issue. In terms of additions to this: I would: Get more susp so you can run it weeks 13-7. That would solve the kick in. Also, I would like to run EQ at atleast 400mg per week and run it up closer to the show.

Also - many have different preferences in terms of running gear right through the show or stopping a week out. I don't know what the popular method is right now. You'll need additional advice on this.

Regarding DNP, I've never used it so I can't comment. If you use it though, obviously you wouldn't run clen or NYC at the same time.

 

[halfaclue]

SO I need to try and get more suspension and more EQ? Would you suggest any other add in ons?

 

[Stillgoing]

I would run susp 13-7 at 50-100mg ED and EQ 13-1 or 13-2 at 400-600mg per week and drop the deca.

Or, if you think running adrol, winny and mast is too much oral at once, you could just as easily swap the susp and adrol in sequence. So, you would run adrol 13-7 and susp 6-1.

Also, consider liquidex through cycle.

With this, you've got a good pre-contest cycle, first contest or not....

 

[halfaclue]

Sounds good. Thanks for the help, anyone else have any suggestions?

 

[Golfer18--old]

For the last two weeks I would up that winny to 100mgED.

 

[gilly6993]

.....and add some halo.....

 

[halfaclue]

Gilly, halo? How much, how often and during what weeks?

 

[halfaclue]

I know I know

Shameless bump. There have to be over 100 body builders on line right now that can help a young brother out. I'm not that new to gear but I have never done a show. I want to win. Help.

 

[halfaclue]

I suck...bump

 

[Him1]

I know halo is a very popular pre contest drug, but, I just becareful running it w/ two other orals in the stack.

 

[halfaclue]

Halo?

What is Halo, is this something you can get at GNC or a something you need a gear supplier for?

 

[halfaclue]

thanks, when i did a search on "Halo" I got about 4000 threads and I looked through about 50 and it was referred as Halo in everyone so I could not find what it was. What does it do and what is it comparable to?

 

[halfaclue]

Um yeah I think I want that. Damn. I wish I knew about that stuff when I got all my gear. Thanks man.

 

[halfaclue]

Stillgoing...need more help.

100mg Suspension 11cc
50mg Anadrol qt 42
? novaldex qt 32
20mcg Clen qt 570
? T-3 qt 20
250mg DNP qt 65
100mg Masteron qt 25
? Clomid qt 35
200mg Deca 20cc
100mg EQ 20cc
50mg Winny qt 85

Just added 20 cc EQ 100mg and 10cc Test 200mg

 

[Stillgoing]

Re: Stillgoing...need more help.

100mg Suspension 11cc
50mg Anadrol qt 42
? novaldex qt 32
20mcg Clen qt 570
? T-3 qt 20
250mg DNP qt 65
100mg Masteron qt 25
? Clomid qt 35
200mg Deca 20cc
100mg EQ 20cc
50mg Winny qt 85

Just added 20 cc EQ 100mg and 10cc Test 200mg

Ok, whats the question??

 

[halfaclue]

with the added EQ and Test how would you do it?

 

[Stillgoing]

with the added EQ and Test how would you do it?

What kind of test??

 

[halfaclue]

I'm not sure, I am getting it tommarrow. I think it is enthate or testerona 200

 

[Stillgoing]

I wouldn't touch that test, anadrol and deca the last 6 weeks; you'd never get rid of the water.

Deca agreed. Anadrol & test disagree. Anadrol you can run right up close to show, long ester test up to 3-4wks out...

 

[Stillgoing]

Revised:

(weeks are count-down to the show, so "reverse order"):

Anadrol: 13-8: 50mg ED
Test: 13-4: 200mg per week
Susp: 3-1: 50mg ED
EQ: 10-1: 400mg per week
Winny: 8-1: 50mg ED
Mast: 3-0: 100mg ED
Nolv: 3-0: 20mg ED
T3: 3-0: 25mg ED
Clen: 2wks on, 2wks off, NYC in between. Dosage: ramp up to 80-100mcg ED
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[Stillgoing]

I think getting the drug out of your system and getting the effects of the drug (water, estrogenic fat) out of your system will have different timetables.

Absolutely agree. The info I have provided is based on my experiences over the 6 shows I have done. I am not presenting myself as a pre-comp guru, in fact, I really wish some other seasoned competitors would chime in here and provide some comprehensive advice. Better yet - halfaclue needs to get hooked up with a comp coach to take him through all of this stuff......there is simply way too much material to prepare for a show to just ask some questions over the board.......

 

[halfaclue]

I agree with Stillgoing, where are all the vets with opinions. Also I did look into a coach but from asking around there is only one and everyone said he was good for natural comps but that is it because he diets you so you are shredded and vascular but does not help maintain your muscle size. (more like a dietition i guess) I mean I am in central newyork. the only reason body building even happens around here is because of Jeremy Freeman, who by the way is one of the nicest guys I have ever seen in the gym. Ocassionally he comes into the gym and is always willing to give advice and help young bros out. Truely great guy, not to mention large.

 

[haxedout]

Halo = halotestin, a steroid aka not stocked at your local GNC.

sure it is stocked......behind the counter..

 

[halfaclue]

Well reach around and grab me a bottle then!

 

[gilly6993]

I'm using anadrol for 7 weeks and stopping 3 days before the show....no water at all......

 

[Stillgoing]

I'm using anadrol for 7 weeks and stopping 3 days before the show....no water at all......

Thats what I'm talkin' 'bout.......maybe I should stop trying in vain to convince everyone of this and let gilly and me run it up to our shows and kick everyone's ass on stage!!!.......

Running primo and winny only (or other anabolics) up to a show is 80s school of thought. Shit, thats what I did for my first several shows. Then I found out that if you run fast acting test or adrol you can retain your strength up to the show which allows you to retain more size & hardness. You can't remain hard if your muscle bellies deplete drastically......for me, water problems come in with long acting esters and diet problems......