Post cycle advice???

[hardrock]

I am coming off and ned a little advice. here are my PCT items on hand.

clomid
nolvadex
Protein Factorys' Post Cycle and Unleashed
Liquidex

How I was planning on running them-

clomid- 10 days 300, 200, 100x8days. I hate clomid and wont take it any longer.

Nolvadex- Never used for PCT, but know that some do. Would you suggest it maybe along with or after the Clomid?

Post Cycle and Unleashed from Protein Factory- I was just planning on their suggested doses. Should I up the dose?

Liquidex- Used it in the past for PCT, but have since heard it's not necessary. Whats the deal?


Got vitamins and creatine also. Plan on keeping protein high. My last cycle I only ran clomid for 10 days along with Liquidex, Maca, Aveena, Tribulis, Creatine, and No2. Maybe a few other things too, don't remember. Recovery went pretty well except for colosterol.

Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

whoa, by looking at your # of posts i can tell you have been around the board a while. only thing i can think of (which i think you mentioned) is save the creatine till after cycle to try to preserve those strength gains best you can.
GOOD LUCK!

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I like substituting Nolva for clo PCT. Last PCT went well, my test levels were over 500 in 6 weeks. I used aveena, unleashed, extra zinc besides my multi, hcg500iu ED 10 days and Nolva 40mg ED 7 days, Nolva20 mg -14-21 days. Keep training & diet dialed in. I like nolva over clo, because of headaches w/ clo. I read a couple articles that basically said 20mg Nolva = 75mg-100mg clomid for estrogen levels.

Good luck Bro, I know you will continue to train hard.

 

[hardrock]

Bump! thanks guys.

What about Liquidex and upping the Post Cycle/Unleashed doses?

 

[small but working on it]

What didnt you like about the Clomid ? I am supposed to be using that stuff soon.

 

[hardrock]

What didnt you like about the Clomid ? I am supposed to be using that stuff soon.

I break out and generally feel like shit. Kinda turn into a bitch too. All emotional and shit.

 

[supervegitto]

I think liquidex is better suited for during a cycle not for pct

 

[Outtlaw]

Nolvadex or clomid. I dont use clomid anymore either (worthless drug IMO). Nolva with hcg is all I need to fully recover from any cycle.

 

[hardrock]

Nolvadex or clomid. I dont use clomid anymore either (worthless drug IMO). Nolva with hcg is all I need to fully recover from any cycle.

Don't have any HCG. Suppose I could wait a week and get some. Only used it once. First cycle as I recall. Don't know that I recovered any better with it although it was 5-6 years ago.

 

[solidspine]

Just do 21 days of Clomid and add HCG, liquidex or Nolvedex for the HCG
Questions:


How much clomid will be required post cycle?
How do you drink this liquidex?



From sk:
36 tabs of clomid,
300mg first day after cycle,
100mg next 10days,
50mg the remaining 10days.
You draw the liquidex with an 18g needle and squirt it in your mouth. 1/4cc a day

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

Hardrock- thanks and karma back to you bro!

 

[hardrock]

Just do 21 days of Clomid and add HCG, liquidex or Nolvedex for the HCG
Questions:


How much clomid will be required post cycle?
How do you drink this liquidex?



From sk:
36 tabs of clomid,
300mg first day after cycle,
100mg next 10days,
50mg the remaining 10days.
You draw the liquidex with an 18g needle and squirt it in your mouth. 1/4cc a day

thanks but I said I WILL NOT do more than 10 days Clomid.

Are you suggesting Liquidex and Nolvadex work the same or as well as HCG?

I have used Liquidex for my last 3 cycles so I know how it's administered. I was simply asking it's effectiveness/worthyness post cycle.

Thanks

 

[hardrock]

bump

 

[view]

If your concerned about cholesterol don't use liquidex. It pretty much destroys your lipid profile.

 

[slash747]

You coming off a heavy test cycle or something lighter?

I would run HCG @ ??? Depends on how much boosting youre nads need
and follow it up with Nolva for 3 weeks.

Liquidex post cycle seems pointless.

 

[hardrock]

You coming off a heavy test cycle or something lighter?

never went over 500 mgs, but I have been on for a few months.

Do I really NEED the HCG? I wanna come off now before acne ruins my summer again like it did last year.

 

[slash747]

People have mixed feelings on taking it or not. Im including it in my next cycle of Prop + T3 , and I will compare it to other cycles that I have done without it and what my recovery time will be.

I think HCG is one of those things you have to try youreself to see if you personally will benefit from it.

The logic behind it is that Nolva boosts youre natural test production , but if youre testes are shrunken they can only produce so much test. So the HCG shocks the testes into growing while the nolva does its thing.

Take a look at http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=311693

Its Radar's sticky thread up top, there is different PCT treatments. I am doing swale's, which is 500iu E4D throughout my cycle.

never went over 500 mgs, but I have been on for a few months.

Do I really NEED the HCG? I wanna come off now before acne ruins my summer again like it did last year.

 

[hardrock]

Thanks. I'll have to try it next time. I can't wait another 2 weeks to come off.