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Poor mans mass and cutting cycle

Realgains

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I can remember when I was a College student....I had NO MONEY!
Here are some ideas for you guys that are really short on cash.

MASS
Test cyp or enanthate plus home made tren. Don't buy sust as its too much money...test is test. Get the 8 gram fina kit as it will be cheaper to make a large amount of tren. Just keep the tren out of the light and it will last a long long time.
As a side......don't bake the tren as 250 F will likely damage some of the hormone. Pasturize it at 165 degrees F for 30 minutes in a water bath. This will kill any bugs that the BA and filtering don't get. Buy a candy thermometer from WallMart for $3 so you can keep the temp even at 160-165. Take some air out of the vial with a syringe and pin to allow for air expansion....or just leave a pin stuck through the rubber stopper.

These two hormones are fantastic together. Tren on its own isn't that great for mass but when you add it with test the mass gain is way better than test alone. The strength and mass gains will blow you away! Be sure to do a front load of the enanthate or cyp at a double dose on day one and then you won't need d-bol to kick start the cycle.
The man that is still below his natural maximum lean weight can get outstanding gains in strength and mass from
Test, a gram on day one, followed by 500-750 per week(depending on size and how close you are to your natural max) and tren 75 per day for 8 weeks then
Then run the tren by itself for the two weeks that it takes for the test to clear. Three days after your last shot of tren hit clomid hard at 300 mg on day one, in divided doses, followed by 50 per day for 3-5 weeks.

I recommend Spectro test from Canada as it is very high quality and cheaper than the euro tests. Alternatively you could use the best Mexican test..Quality Vet...or second best... Ttokkyo.

CUTTING
Home made tren and a small dose of test, like 200/week, for sex drive. The 200 of test won't give you much if any bloat but if it does then add proviron at 100 per day.
Home made tren plus proviron at 50mg twice per day is even better but more expensive.

You don't need winstrol at all as tren is far better and cheaper too, not to mention easier on the liver and lipid profile.

Be darn sure to have clomid and nolvadex. I and Bill lewellyn run 20 of nolva all the time as it seems to help with ones lipid profile as it acts as an estrogen in the liver.

RG

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Realgains, you are officially my new hero.

As a side......don't bake the tren as 250 F will likely damage some of the hormone.

To all those first-time fina users reading this, not baking the tren does not mean that you will get any kind of infection or injection pain at all. I have not once baked or heated the tren after it was done and everything has been smooth sailing for me.
 
The Almighty said:
Realgains, you are officially my new hero.



To all those first-time fina users reading this, not baking the tren does not mean that you will get any kind of infection or injection pain at all. I have not once baked or heated the tren after it was done and everything has been smooth sailing for me.



Gee thanx..he he he ..blushing

Thats correct it isn't necessary to pasturize the stuff as the BA and filtering takes care of the bacteria.....but for you paranoid then go ahead and pasturize. Also, if you buy the cheap Mexican gear it wouldn't hurt to pasturize it because then you know its sterile.

RG
 
Reagains you are like my long lost twin!! I've thought the same thing so many times. Why use anything but the two most effective cheapest steroids on the planet when your poor? That's why I'm on QV test and good ol homemade tren right now and loving it.

Give this man some karma cause I can't give him anymore!!!
 
Dare I say that the average guy doesn't really need anything at all but test and tren to accomplish his goals....its that simple, and damn it, it's cheap too....a no brainer really.

RG

:)
 
Realgains said:
Dare I say that the average guy doesn't really need anything at all but test and tren to accomplish his goals....its that simple, and damn it, it's cheap too....a no brainer really.

RG

:)

Must agree (yet again).
 
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