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Suppose you step out the gym, bag in hand, and some cop the size of Ronnie Coleman shouts at you to stop, and starts asking questions. What are your rights?

Well, to address these issues, I wrote the following essay in part from sources culled from my friend, criminal defense attorney Rick Collins' treatise, LEGAL MUSCLE: Anabolics in America. Specifically, chapters 7 and 9, Winny Warrants and Probable Cause and Fast Cars and Anavars, respectively. The majority of the case law cited are Supreme Court cases. I hope that you find it informative.


"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."--U.S. Const. amend. IV.


Not every police-civilian interaction implicates the Fourth Amendment "probable cause" or "reasonable suspicion" standards. For example, a non-coercive conversation between an officer and a civilian does not require any articulable basis under the Fourth Amendment. For Fourth Amendment analysis to apply, a "seizure of the person" must occur.

A seizure is a physical taking of possession such that they are not free to leave or when a reasonable person would believe such. See California v. Hodari, 499 U.S. 621 (1991).What constitutes a seizure is highly fact dependent. Detaining a person to question them is a seizure [Reid v. Georgia 448 U.S. 438 (1980)] as well as to ascertain their identity [Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47 (1979). (Emphasis mine.) Stopping an automobile and detaining its occupants is a seizure [Colorado v. Bannister, 449 U.S. 1 (1980); Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 (1979)]. (The body of case law surrounding the Fourth Amendment right is voluminous; what a government actor can or cannot properly search or seize in a given case is ultimately a question of law for the court.)

The least intrusive form of constitutional "seizure," but one which still requires "reasonable suspicion," is a Terry "stop."

Terry v. Ohio

In the landmark case of Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), the Supreme Court ruled that a police officer may detain a person briefly on the street for limited interrogation in the absence of "probable cause," so long as a lesser standard of "reasonable suspicion" has been satisfied. To justify a patdown frisk, a police officer must have a reasonable fear that he or she "is dealing with an armed and dangerous individual. Under Terry, a "stop" occurs when, "by means of physical force or by show of authority." A police officer briefly detains a civilian such that "a reasonable person would have believed that they was not free to leave.

For a police officer properly to effect a Terry "stop," the officer must be able to articulate "reasonable suspicion." "Reasonable suspicion" is a reasonable belief on the part of the officer, based on experience, observations, and/or information from others, that criminal activity is "afoot" sufficient to warrant police intervention. (Refer also to Illinois v. Gates 462 U.S. 213 (1983) for a comparison to probable cause as being established by the "totality of the circumstances.)

Police may not merely stop a car and question its occupants simply to get acquainted (I’ve heard some LAPD police officers refer to this colloquially as “jamming.” I imagine that this is the good guys way of taking the streets back from the hoodlums who will stop a rival gang member and “sweat” him. “Sweating,” I’m told, is when gang members will confront a stranger whom they believe to be a member of a rival gang). Police may stop a vehicle when there is reasonable suspicion to believe the operator or occupants have committed a crime. [Delaware v. Prouse, id.] Such an investigatory stop must satisfyt the following two-part standard [United States v. Cortez 449 U.S. 411 (1981)]:

1. Based upon the totality of the circumstances the officer must make an assessment of the situation;
2. The totality of the circumstances must raise a suspicion that the persons being stopped are engaged or about to be engaged in some wrongdoing.

More than a hunch is needed to make a stop, of course a traffic infraction is sufficient to stop the vehicle.

The law of Terry provides a baseline federal constitutional test for "stop & frisk," the "reasonable suspicion" standard, in the absence of which no seizures of the person are permitted. However, the federal standard sets the floor, not the ceiling of constitutional protection. State courts and legislatures may, consistent with the Fourth Amendment, heighten the standard which officers must satisfy, making it more demanding of officers and more protective of civilians, pursuant to principles of their own state constitutions or as matters of their own state policy. New York has done precisely that.

People v. DeBour (State law)

In People v. De Bour, [40 N.Y.2d 210, 386 N.Y.S.2d 375 (1976)], the New York Court of Appeals, using principles of state law, established a more nuanced (and arguably more stringent), multi-tiered standard for evaluating the propriety of police-civilian street encounters. Each progressive level allows "a separate degree of police interference with the liberty of the person approached and consequently requires escalating suspicion on the part of the investigating officer."
The New York test identifies four levels of police intrusion on an escalating scale. At the first, least intrusive level, an officer may request information from a civilian about his or her identity, reason for being at a particular location, or travel plans, where the request is "supported by an objective, credible reason, not necessarily indicative of criminality."

The second De Bour level is referred to as the "common law right of inquiry." Under the "common law right," an officer may approach and closely question a civilian to the extent necessary to gain explanatory information beyond identity and travel plans. Still, however, the officer may not detain the civilian; the individual always remains free to leave. This second level of intrusion, which falls short of a Fourth Amendment "seizure" (a "stop") sufficient to implicate Terry, does require a founded suspicion that "criminal activity is afoot," and is often referred to as “founded suspicion.” The difference between the De Bour tiers is itself subtle and rests upon the content and number of questions, and the "degree to which the language and nature of the questions transform the encounter from what the courts have described as a merely “unsettling one" under De Bour's first level, to an “intimidating one" under its second.

At the third De Bour level of intrusion, an officer is authorized to detain a civilian against his or her will; in the parlance of Terry, it is here that a "stop" occurs. In New York, a "stop" is authorized only where a police officer entertains a reasonable suspicion that a particular person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a felony or misdemeanor It is important to note that the standard for effecting a "stop" under De Bour and its progeny is somewhat more exacting than the standard under Terry. By requiring the particularity of a specific person, suspected of committing a specific crime, New York places a greater burden upon police before they can deprive someone of their liberty, even temporarily.

Finally, the fourth De Bour level is arrest. An officer may arrest and take into custody a person when the officer has "probable cause" to believe that person has committed a crime (a felony or misdemeanor), or an "offense" (a violation) in his presence.

The categories that follow demonstrate that, at least with respect to clear instances where "reasonable suspicion" is absent, federal and state law are consistent. When considering these specific examples set forth below, it is important to remember that the absence of "reasonable suspicion" does not preclude all police action. In instances where an officer cannot effect a "stop," the officer retains the right to approach a person, make inquiries and observe a person's actions -- only forcible detentions (including verbal commands that amount to a seizure) are precluded.

The United States Supreme Court has held that "[a citizen] may not be detained even momentarily without reasonable, objective grounds for doing so; and his refusal to listen or answer does not, without more, furnish those grounds.” [Florida v. Royer, 460 U.S. 491, 498 (1983) (citing United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544, 556 (1980)]. Similarly, the refusal to identify oneself will not alone give rise to "reasonable suspicion." See Brown v. Texas, id.

New York courts, likewise, have held that, while police officers may pose nonthreatening questions seeking basic information, e.g., regarding identity, address or destination, when they have an objective, credible reason to do so, civilians are not required to answer or to provide proof of identity. See De Bour. Although some verbal responses to questions at this level can provide a basis for greater intrusion, such as obviously false answers, officers may not effect a more “intimidating” (the court’s descriptive term, not mine), level-two "common law" inquiry, nor a level-three "stop," based solely upon a civilian's refusal to answer or failure to provide identification.

The United States Supreme Court has likewise held that a citizen who does not wish to answer police questions may disregard the officer's questions and walk away. See Brown v. Texas. At this point, Brown bears some mention. The Court held that no reasonable suspicion justified a seizure where the police stopped the defendant in an alley associated with drug trafficking and the defendant refused to identify himself and angrily asserted that the officers had no right to stop him. Refusal to answer an officer's questions, standing alone, does not satisfy the constitutional "reasonable suspicion" test.

Under governing New York law, an individual has a constitutional right to refuse to respond to questions posed by a police officer, may remain silent, and may even walk away without fearing an arrest or detention by the officer.

Under both federal and New York law, a person may not be "stopped," or "stopped" and frisked, solely because he or she is in the company of an individual whom the police reasonably suspect.

Of course, a citizen may waive their Fourth Amendment right at any time and grant consent to a search including, but not limited to, themselves, a vehicle or a dwelling place. Nonetheless consent will often result in a inquiry of its voluntariness when being challenged at a suppression hearing. But that is topic which is beyond the scope of the present discussion.

RW
 
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civilians are not required to answer or to provide proof of identity (New York)

As a former NYPD. You can be “detained” until your identity is verified and a warrant check is done if you refuse to identify yourself on a routine stop. It is “mere suspicion” but what the books say and what is actually done are two different things.
 
At the third De Bour level of intrusion, an officer is authorized to detain a civilian against his or her will; in the parlance of Terry, it is here that a "stop" occurs. In New York, a "stop" is authorized only where a police officer entertains a reasonable suspicion that a particular person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a felony or misdemeanor

Is the officer required to tell the detainee why s/he is being detained?

I have been advised by my attorney not to speak about my case, though I feel that I need better advice.
 
To the best of my knowledge, there is no authority to support the proposition that the subject be told by law enforcement why a stop is being made. I don't know of any harm if law enforcement merely says: "shut-up, I'm asking the questions here!" And once it escalates to an arrest, there's really no option in challenging a LEO on the initial stop at that point because the subject may then also be charged with non-violent resisting arrest. The course of conduct is to raise it in court at a pre-trial suppression hearing.

Your attorney is correct in advising you not to discuss your case. As you're well aware, where there is no privilege, persons may be compelled by subpoena to testify against you.


RW
 
The problem it seems is that "The suspect looked nervous and figity and I feared for my safety" excuse that the cops use.

This excuse allows police to search anyone while conducting investigative business.

A policeman may claim that crime is afoot (crime is always afoot in cities), ask questions to a potential suspect, and then detain and search that person. If the police find something incriminating, they will then charge the detainee.

Otherwise, if the police do not find anything incriminating regarding the detainee, they may dismiss the detainee with a stern warning, or arrest him, making a claim that the suspect/witness became violent, or they may even plant contraband on the detainee.

The first two things have happended to me, and the last thing (contraband) happened to a friend of mine.

It is my opinion that police have too much power. Non-affluent individuals who seek power and control over others will sometimes become police just for the purpose of obtaining such control over others. Others may become police with good intentions but are then corrupted by their environment and position of power.

I just wish I knew what to do about it. Damn.
 
Bingo! Seen it done dozens of times...

Otherwise, if the police do not find anything incriminating regarding the detainee, they may dismiss the detainee with a stern warning, or arrest him, making a claim that the suspect/witness became violent
 
I'm also a former cop and you all have to school yourselves and realize when a search is allowed and when it is not, also what a search is. Many of my former co workers violated people's rights all the time because they didn't understand when a "search" could be performed. Just because you are detained does not give a cop the right to go sticking his hands in your pockets, that is a search. Did he ask for consent to go into your pockets? If not, then it's an illegal search. Are you under arrest? If so, then yes, he can, search incident to a lawful arrest, go into your pockets.

A Terry Frisk is just that...a frisk. A patting of the outer layer of clothing for weapons. Not going through your pockets, not pulling your shoes off, not rummaging through your vehicle, although Terry frisk does extend to the immediate area of reach in a vehicle as well.

Know the difference, but also know shit doesn't happen the way it's supposed to out on the streets.
 
"although Terry frisk does extend to the immediate area of reach in a vehicle as well."

Do you have a case cite for this?

RW
 
Syphonfilter said:
A Terry Frisk is just that...a frisk. A patting of the outer layer of clothing for weapons. Not going through your pockets, not pulling your shoes off, not rummaging through your vehicle, although Terry frisk does extend to the immediate area of reach in a vehicle as well.

Know the difference, but also know shit doesn't happen the way it's supposed to out on the streets.

I agree 100% with what you said. The cop can look inside your pockets though if he can articulate it well enough. For a cop with any street experience, that is not too difficult.

"Your honor, I have been working the streets of this city for --- years. In these years of service, I have encountered numerous persons with razor blades attached to their identification cards, small knives they have tried to use on me, and even contaminated syringes they have tried to stick me with. The suspect kept digging into his pockets and refused to stop when I ordered him to. Therefore for my safety, I patted him down. I could feel through the pocket what I believed was a weapon. It fel like a ---- . I therefore emptied his pockets and found ---- which is illegal contraband."

Basically, cops can search you anytime they want.
 
But you have to back-up a step. Before the LEO can even progress to the point of articulating the justification for the frisk, they need to articulate reasonable suspicion for the stop (seizure) in the first instance.
 
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